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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by Merriman Weir
You would need alot more then guns and free speech to fix Britains problems. They have embraced progressive ideals just like the Canadians and what does this lead to.
Less freedom senors on you garbage the Internet being censored and bad food being taken away and so on........
People needed something and they gave it to the security but true security can not be given it has to come form the inside out if you catch my drift.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by Clark Savage Jr.
So we stick by 'our' way because we all know damned well that, believe it or not, our way is STILL worth preserving.
That's great and, for right or wrong, perhaps to be applauded. However, preserving the American Way and proclaiming the American Way to be the best way or the only way are very different things. I see a lot of the former, sorry.
Also, the idea that America is somehow special because it can dig deep and pull together when it needs to is pretty strange. That's not a particularly American trait and is something that can be seen the world over.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by Merriman Weir
You would need alot more then guns and free speech to fix Britains problems. They have embraced progressive ideals just like the Canadians and what does this lead to.
Less freedom senors on you garbage the Internet being censored and bad food being taken away and so on........
People needed something and they gave it to the security but true security can not be given it has to come form the inside out if you catch my drift.
Originally posted by [davinci]
reply to post by Subjective Truth
No, I have no time for someone wants to promote intolerance and racist ideals.
Free speech is a wonderful thing and I practice it everyday. Had I lived in Ottawa I may have even practiced it to protest Ms Coulter's appearance.
The difference is I don't see the expression of racist views as freedom of speech. In fact supporting racism one of the absolute worst abuses of freedom I can imagine.
Again, you are ignoring the fact that it was the decision of Ms Coulter's staff that cancelled her speech, not the Canadian government, not the Canadian people. Free citizens showed up to exercise their freedom of speech against her views and she chickened out.
Get your last word in, then move along, we're done here.
Originally posted by hawkiye
Originally posted by Janky Red
Originally posted by hawkiye
Every socialist democracy in history has failed the same way.
As one of our American founding fathers Benjamin Franklin once said Those who give up Liberty for Security deserve neither and will have neither! God helps us all...
"...the well being of the poor and retched is a duty charged to private, public and charitable means and funds, for the health of the retch is the health of a nation."
Ben Franklin Penn Gazette - 1743
First of all I suspect that quote is bogus. I have some copies of the Penn Gazzette and no such quote is in them. I could be wrong but I would love for you to substantiate that quote in one of the published Penn Gazettes and attributed to Ben Frankin. He bought the paper and often published statements from others. It may have been attributed him as the editor but I doubt he actually wrote it or if it turns out he did it is likely completely out of context..
Having said that if your intent was to suggest Ben Frankin would advocate government forcing men to give to the poor through taxes or other means you are sadly mistaken. He like most men of his time would espouse the Christian doctrine of helping the poor but only voluntarily not by any means of force, coercion, or socialism.
I'll leave you with this quote from him:
The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.
Benjamin Franklin
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
Originally posted by [davinci]
reply to post by Subjective Truth
Racist should have a voice and so should people who are intolerant. What exactly is intolerance. And who judges it. This is what Canadians should be asking.
I agree with you, provided it was the state who censored the racist...
Was it???
and who?
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
If you do not see what is special about America then words are not going to change your mind.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
If you do not see what is special about America then words are not going to change your mind.
I'll join the other poster in enquiring about your medicine regime then.
I'll also point out that, if words are not going to change my mind, then why are you trying to change my mind with your words? Are you a personal shining beacon leading the way in stupidity and futility rather than liberty and democracy?
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by Merriman Weir
But your hate will not let you see it. And I have no idea what you are talking about with the quote thing.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by Merriman Weir
We have common ground I feel the same way. That is why I want to change America back. You cannot spread freedom down the barrel of a gun it should spread by example and to fight only when that very freedom is a stack like in ww2.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
If you do not see what is special about America then words are not going to change your mind. But think about this who gives the most?
If you do not see what is special about America then words are not going to change your mind. But think about this who gives the most? And also who is the largest beacon of democracy?
Every country has something to give and good people. And so does America.