Simplifying Survival Kits, page 1
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reply posted on 23-3-2010 @ 09:21 PM by whaaa
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12 guage, .00 buckshot, big knife, dried meat, water, and a cold, cold heart.


reply posted on 23-3-2010 @ 09:57 PM by Hypntick
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Might I direct you to the videos of Dave Canterbury on Youtube. For short term and long term survival, he has various kit builds that are light on load and quite functional. Of course they are a bit more, outdoors man than most people would like.


reply posted on 23-3-2010 @ 10:15 PM by belidged
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The more knowledge you have the lighter your pack will be. If you know how to make rope you don't need to pack it, or if you know how to use plants for medicinal purposes you don't need to pack a first aid kit.

Knowledge should be the largest item you bring with you.


reply posted on 24-3-2010 @ 04:03 PM by salchanra
I love threads like this where the poster says knowledge is all you need.

Almost makes me laugh. Yes, if you go into the woods without any clue as to what you are doing, its over. I dont care how much stuff you have. As for making your own in the wilderness, yup, great idea. But why would I want to spend 1/2 hour carving a drinking vessel when a titanium cup comes in under 4 ozs?

There are so many trains of thought on what to carry, what to leave behind, it really comes down to how you plan and where you are.

If you are in a metro area, the items you will want to carry will be to be light and defence minded, water purification would also be a good idea. Most everything else can be found or fashioned by whats left of your area.

If your plan is to simply grab an INCH bag and take off of an undetermined amount of time, the items and weight grows greatly. Medical, fire, way to find/kill foodstuffs, shelter (which can consist of a number of things from axes to rope to tarps, etc...)

If you have a planned retreat, i.e. somewhere to go to, or a meeting place, you can pack light and stockpile your cache or cabin or whatever you have.

The key thing in any kit is to use it, know it and understand its and your limitations. Anyone should be able to start a fire with a flint and steel, but can you? Or do you need matches until you get it right? Can you create a livable lean too or snow cave, or do you need your tarps and paracord?

I tweak my kit constantly as I use different items, or my personal situation changes. Its all about you and where you are going and what you think you can live without.

For the knowledge only people.....you wouldnt last a week where I am at without an axe, yes, I could make one with a sharp rock, a stick and some willow bark, but why? Surviving doesnt have to be about making life even more difficult should TSHTF, but being able to still enjoy living, and there are tools out there that make being alone in the woods a whole lot easier and enjoyable.



reply posted on 24-3-2010 @ 05:05 PM by tribewilder
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That is an excellent video and I have a small tin that goes with me as it is as part of my wardrobe as my wallet.



reply posted on 25-3-2010 @ 10:50 AM by vor78
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Your best bet is to pick a weight limit, then examine every item you put in your pack and determine whether the utility that it adds is truly worth the extra weight. You also need to do this while also taking into consideration your local environment as well as the length and nature of the situation you are preparing for, and whether or not you require mobility and how your weight limit affects that.

Most importantly, be realistic about what can be accomplished with a 'bug out bag.' The best laid plans are virtually guaranteed to go right out the window if the day ever comes that you need to use it. To that end, the usual 10-15 basic items will see you through 90-95% of the survival situations that are likely to arise, but once you get past the basics, the utility of additional items starts becoming increasingly marginal, because a person can never guarantee their survival if the worst happens.
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