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Urban CO2 Domes Increase Deaths
Everyone knows that carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas driving climate change, is a global problem. Now a Stanford study has shown it is also a local problem, hurting city dwellers' health much more than rural residents', because of the carbon dioxide "domes" that develop over urban areas.
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Jacobson found that domes of increased carbon dioxide concentrations -- discovered to form above cities more than a decade ago -- cause local temperature increases that in turn increase the amounts of local air pollutants, raising concentrations of health-damaging ground-level ozone, as well as particles in urban air.
In modeling the health impacts for the contiguous 48 states, for California and for the Los Angeles area, he determined an increase in the death rate from air pollution for all three regions compared to what the rate would be if no local carbon dioxide were being emitted.
Originally posted by blankduck18
How dumb do they think people are?
Originally posted by Essan
Surprised not to see anything about this. Seems global warming is not the only problem with our current obsession in producing carbon emissions at every opportunity.
Urban CO2 Domes Increase Deaths
Everyone knows that carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas driving climate change, is a global problem. Now a Stanford study has shown it is also a local problem, hurting city dwellers' health much more than rural residents', because of the carbon dioxide "domes" that develop over urban areas.
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Jacobson found that domes of increased carbon dioxide concentrations -- discovered to form above cities more than a decade ago -- cause local temperature increases that in turn increase the amounts of local air pollutants, raising concentrations of health-damaging ground-level ozone, as well as particles in urban air.
In modeling the health impacts for the contiguous 48 states, for California and for the Los Angeles area, he determined an increase in the death rate from air pollution for all three regions compared to what the rate would be if no local carbon dioxide were being emitted.
So, after all that, the EPA were right. CO2 is a pollutant, it is dangerous to human health, and it makes sense for that reason alone to cut emissions - especially from vehicles.
Originally posted by PuterMan
Global warming is a myth. Get over it
Climate change is a reality and is a natural process
Pollution is a severe problem. Stop whinging about climate change and start tackling pollution - worldwide.
Stop bleating about being green and then dumping toxic waste on other counties
Stop closing down steel works and moving production to other countries and then giving them billions in ridiculous 'carbon credits' so they can sell steel back to us and pollute to their heats content at the same time.
Carbon credits are an excuse for continuing pollution
Carbon trading is a scam for the wealthy.
Trying using common sense as a guide - it does work. The trouble is that most people in government don't have any.
. I can assure you that if all CO2 was removed from the world we would indeed eventually die so no more of the straw man comments unless you can back that up?
And you certainly won't see alarmist strawman comments like '"without CO2 we will die"
Originally posted by PuterManDoes the UK not have steel production that is being closed and shifted to India along with 600 million in carbon credits? I thought it did or is that another MSM lie? I have to say I have not researched that one yet.
At least we agree on most of the other points!!
Edit, oh missed you silly comment. I can assure you that if all CO2 was removed from the world we would indeed eventually die so no more of the straw man comments unless you can back that up?
And you certainly won't see alarmist strawman comments like '"without CO2 we will die"
Originally posted by PuterMan
First of all Science Daily and it's sister rag News Daily are entrenched Alarmist publications.
Originally posted by Essan
IMHO regardless of any concerns about carbon emission derived global warming (I'm more worried about other forms of AGW/ACC) it wouldn't be a bad thing to aim to curb carbon emissions and develop cheaper, more efficient, transport and industry etc.
[edit on 25-3-2010 by Essan]
Originally posted by buddhasystem
I don't think there is anything weird in temperature increase due to local increase in CO2 concentration. Everybody knows that clear nights are crispy and cloudy nights are warmer, same kind of physics at work here.
Data suggest that domes of high CO2 levels form over cities. Despite our knowledge of these domes for over a decade, no study has contemplated their effects on air pollution or health. In fact, all air pollution regulations worldwide assume arbitrarily that such domes have no local health impact, and carbon policy proposals, such as “cap and trade”, implicitly assume that CO2 impacts are the same regardless of where emissions occur. Here, it is found through data-evaluated numerical modeling with telescoping domains from the globe to the U.S., California, and Los Angeles, that local CO2 emissions in isolation may increase local ozone and particulate matter. Although health impacts of such changes are uncertain, they are of concern, and it is estimated that that local CO2 emissions may increase premature mortality by 50−100 and 300−1000/yr in California and the U.S., respectively. As such, reducing locally emitted CO2 may reduce local air pollution mortality even if CO2 in adjacent regions is not controlled. If correct, this result contradicts the basis for air pollution regulations worldwide, none of which considers controlling local CO2 based on its local health impacts. It also suggests that a “cap and trade” policy should consider the location of CO2 emissions, as the underlying assumption of the policy is incorrect.
In addition to the changes he observed in local air pollutants, Jacobson found that there was increased stability of the air column over a city, which slowed the dispersal of pollutants, further adding to the increased pollutant concentrations.