Barbury Castle UFO Video

Good Morning ATS.

A rather cheeky, British, friend of mine sent me a link to this video and after a cursory search here I only found one thread with two replies about it.

I'd like to see what our astute membership thinks of this video and the story that goes with it (in text on the right side of the page).

Apparently these fellows were able to film the "UFO" for over an hour. I'll say that I personally like the fact they actually hung in there and filmed the thing leaving the area. As we all know most of the "longer" videos, that generally turn out to be hoaxes, the person shooting just quits filming and we never see where the object went.

I know the area this was filmed in has been a hotbed for hoaxing, crop circle makers of the human type, rather than the alien type. Interestingly (or not) the folks who shot the film discovered a crop circle that was in the general area this UFO was hovering over. That is an astounding situation that could either lead one to believe the film is a hoax by association OR not ALL crop circles are hoaxes.

I can't find where anyone has debunked this video (admittedly I didn't spend hours searching either) and since it's been around since June, 2009 I find that pretty amazing in and of itself.

Have a look and let's see if we can figure this one out.

www.cropcirclewisdom.com...

Springer...

[edit on 3-23-2010 by Springer]

Hey Springer, good case and videos. I too am surprised this case hasn't received more attention here...

It bugs me how the guy in the field with the video camera can't see the object and claims to have not captured any film of it. He seems to be filming something...

Extra footage to be released later? Too sensitive so it was censored?

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Originally posted by Springer
I can't find where anyone has debunked this video (admittedly I didn't spend hours searching either) and since it's been around since June, 2009 I find that pretty amazing in and of itself.

Kentaro Mori's “Forgetomori” blog had a post discussing this video last year.

He suggested that the images may have been "very mundane, like a silo, or even the cabin of a truck".

He relied, in particular, on the fact the legs of the man in the video (i.e. Andrew Pyrka) were not visible due to an obstruction, which may also have affected the perception of a mundane distant object.

His comments included the following:

The most amazing thing, however, is that the video also seems to show that Andrew’s legs simply vanished! And he was floating in the air, legless!

Or perhaps his legs were just being obstructed by the crop field. If that happened with his legs, couldn’t it also have happened with the lower part of the “UFO”? Which could have been something very mundane, like a silo, or even the cabin of a truck? Forced perspective, as again, many readers pointed out in the io9 post.

You can even notice how the “UFO” was very far, as the air haziness affects it just like the background. No wonder Andrew didn’t see a thing around him and didn’t touch anything solid. But would he and Paul be as clueless (and without depth perception) to the point of not realizing the “UFO” was simply something very far away in the fields?

The relevant video is embedded below:



The relevant effect is visible at various points in the video, e.g. starting at about 25 second into the video until 35 seconds into it.

Kenataro Mori's views provide a simple explanation of most of the "UFO" video. However, it is a bit difficult to reconcile with the UFO appearing to descend in this bit of video below:



It is worth noting that several crop circle hoaxers have branched out over the years and have been involved in UFO hoaxes - including several videos involving CGI and one or two videos that seem to have been of physical objects (e.g. balloons).

If there was a hoax involving a physical object, the individuals that filmed the video would not necessarily have been a party to the hoax.

I have in mind in particular the fake "ufo" created for a documentary shown on Channel 4 in the United Kingdom entitled "A Very British UFO Hoax", produced by Chrysalis Television.

The production company hired some special effects specialists (Cutting Edge Effects) to plan and build a 10 meter diameter saucer, based around a carbon-fiber skeleton covered with a Mylar skin. A balloon was filled with helium and small electrical motors were used to guide its motion.

The craft was flown over the English countryside on the night of 16 August 2003.

That hoax was discussed in various threads on ATS, including:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'd embed the video that that "ufo" below, but all of the links for it which I have in my database are now dead (presumably because Channel 4 objected to the breach of its copyright when people put it on Youtube etc, and/or the people that uploaded the video to Youtube took it off when they discovered it was all a hoax).

All the best,

Isaac



[edit on 23-3-2010 by IsaacKoi]

Real, or fake, I must applaud the camera man for using a tripod and providing a decent frame of reference. Too bad the darn thing is so far away. I would love to see the footage from the person standing in the field filming.

It looks like an obvious mirage to me. I've seen plenty of them myself.

A mirage is a naturally occurring optical phenomenon in which light rays are bent to produce a displaced image of distant objects or the sky.

en.wikipedia.org...

Something (car?) on the ground beyond the hill has been made visible by refraction of light by a temperature inversion. You can see how roiled the air is in the video.
nsidc.org...







[edit on 3/23/2010 by Phage]

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Something (car?) on the ground beyond the hill has been made visible by refraction of light by a temperature inversion. You can see how roiled the air is in the video.

I was thinking the same thing. There seems to be a road beyond the hill. At 3:57 you can see what appears to be a top of a truck(?) going by in the 4th video.

Yeah...hot June day, long range shot where you can see the air movement, truck goes passed, so obviosly tarmac just over the ridge...mirage. Sorry!

So that car sat there for over an hour, dipped up and down a bit, and then shot off into the sky?

Riiiiight, of course it did

reply to post by Acidtastic

At this point all we have is their statement that the sighting lasted for an hour. We don't know what exactly they were watching for an hour. Was it this particular thing, or others? All we see is a few minutes.

But air is a fluid thing. It moves. As the air moves, so does the mirage. The disturbed air, obvious in the video, indicates that the camera is very close to the inversion level. A very slight movement up (or down) of the inversion causes the mirage to move up (or down).


[edit on 3/23/2010 by Phage]

I was thinking mirage when I watched it as well, especially with as "fluid" as the air appears... It's apparent there was lots of thermal activity in the lower atmosphere and tons of haze, all the ingredients are there for a mirage.

BUT... The "hour" time lapse made me scratch my head and wonder how/why.

As Phage says, we only have their statement they filmed for an hour and, while I certainly don't assume they are lying, we can't know until we get to see the whole tape.

One thing I am happy to say is, at least this video does not appear to be CGI.

That's something these days.

Does anyone know more about the crop circle mentioned? Did anyone ever step up and claim they made it like the others in the area?

Springer...

Well obviously that site promotes crop circles being created by UFO's so what happened this time could the aliens not be bothered or maybe its just that a mirage cant do it

Another thought if it was there for an hour why not get closer!

[edit on 23-3-2010 by wmd_2008]

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They did get closer. Watch 4th video.

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I know that they state one of them "walked past" the craft (without seeing it) but, looking at the video I don't know how the person shooting that could've known if the fellow in the field was "past" the object or not.

The depth perception of 3-D environment on a 2-D screen is pretty limited. Looking at the video I can't tell if the guy in the field is in front or behind the "craft" at all.

I think the fact the only way the "craft" could be seen was in the one camera is very telling.

Springer...

Originally posted by Springer

As Phage says, we only have their statement they filmed for an hour and, while I certainly don't assume they are lying, we can't know until we get to see the whole tape.

Well, these guys could certainly have a motive for lying... They are selling something.

Sadly we were unable to capture on video the large swirling black object which originally attracted our attention. However, we feel that the black object was there intentionally to attract our attention, so we could spot the next event which followed straight after the black object disappeared.

The full story of how myself Andrew Pyrka and Paul Jones came to be a part of this incredible day, will be featured in the book ' Interacting with the spirit of the crop circle phenomenon '

www.cropcirclewisdom.com...

Perhaps I am getting cynical...

Don't they clearly state that there are not near a road? Do you really think that people are so easily fooled by mirages as to interpret them as "UFO's"? What about the crop circle that was left there; was it there before or after? What were those guys doing in that field though, exactly? I don't know what to make of the video; you'd think they would splice the footages of the 2 guys together or perhaps try to get much closer with that tripod then they were considering it was floating around for an hour...One more thing, is it these guys job to "find" "Ufos"?

I wanna see all the footage.
At first i thought it was a reflection from a vehicle at distance but i don't know.
I remember i was baffled when i saw this footage at olivier castle:www.youtube.com...
Has it been analyzed yet?


[edit on 23-3-2010 by upnorthtrip]

These videos have been discussed before.

*EDIT* I THINK* it was already proven that beyond the horizon and down is a very large city and an airport. What you see is an out of focus aircraft flying towards or away from you very slowly and approaching landing. When it moves to the right and back in the first video they actually reversed the video and play it backwards to make it go back, and look like something it isn't.

I remember when they showed this guy doing a forced perspective to make it look like he was holding it. And they even lied and said he put his arm in the exact area of the UFO and felt some type of electrical shock. We all knew he was lying because he admitted to be holding a cell phone and was directed by his friend holding the camera how to move his arm so that it is a forced perspective.

Don't you guys remember that? Where the guy claimed to touch the UFO? This is the same footage... same hoaxer...

-edit add-

Here is the original topic:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is a replay from Linda Howe... and we all know her material isn't verified.

[edit on 23-3-2010 by ALLis0NE]

[edit on 23-3-2010 by ALLis0NE]

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
These videos have been discussed before.

It was already proven that beyond the horizon and down is a very large city and an airport. What you see is an out of focus aircraft flying towards or away from you very slowly and approaching landing. When it moves to the right and back in the first video they actually reversed the video and play it backwards to make it go back, and look like something it isn't.

I remember when they showed this guy doing a forced perspective to make it look like he was holding it. And they even lied and said he put his arm in the exact area of the UFO and felt some type of electrical shock. We all knew he was lying because he admitted to be holding a cell phone and was directed by his friend holding the camera how to move his arm so that it is a forced perspective.

Don't you guys remember that? Where the guy claimed to touch the UFO? This is the same footage... same hoaxer...

-edit add-

Here is the original topic:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is a replay from Linda Howe... and we all know her material isn't verified.

[edit on 23-3-2010 by ALLis0NE]

Proven by who? I know Barbury castle well , from having camped there several times. it is a favourite spot along the Ridgeway walk. There are no large airfields in the vicinity of the site. In fact, in terms of public access, it's one of the most remote parts of Wilshire there is. If you are talking about Bristol airport it is some 34 miles away, given the horizon is about 3-4, even with the curvature of the earth and a mirage 34 is stretching rationality beyond breaking point

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Sorry, I don't talk to people who have connections to the crop circle makers, and admit it. I put you on personal ignore a while ago.

FireMoon

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That said.. this event happened a little over a year ago, I will have to refresh my memory before I comment on it again.

This event was really suspicious because at first they only released a few still photos. And then they kept the videos secret knowing they were going to try to profit of the videos before giving anyone a chance to actually study it.

Profit before study...... not study before profit.... there is something wrong with that. They don't even care about figuring out what it is first before trying to profit off it. They would rather try to profit off of the ignorance of others.





[edit on 23-3-2010 by ALLis0NE]

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Yes, you are right don;t ever talk to people who actually might know something, rather than, pontificate from a position of ignorance.