Simple question folks, if this was to rein in the insurance companies?

reply to post by marg6043


But you are forgetting the other work they are doing now. Dodd and the other morons plan on giving the Federal Reserve more power. They are going to control and regulate to make sure companies and banks are no longer too big to fail.

I wonder how they plan on doing that? Especially by giving the Fed Res more power?

People need to see what is going on and see this is all the means to an end.

You have people here, that will comment on the Federal Reserve threads stating how evil they are, yet state that this bill is a good thing.

I just do not understand it. God the propaganda is working really well on them.

This is all related. Everything we talk about here on ATS. My GOD, wake up people! The government is NOT your benevolent buddy.

reply to post by endisnighe


Is it the whole free speech problem?

Spam is either porn or unsolicited mass messages to SELL something.

Sorry I don't qualify. I'm not off topic -- depleted uranium is a health epidemic in the U.S. for soldiers.

And guess what -- nuclear power does not have to be covered by the insurance companies!!

So depleted uranium side-steps the insurance companies in more ways than one.

But then SAIC and the Business Roundtable shows the overlap of all the corporate elite anyway -- insurance, finance, real estate are not called

FIRE for nothing.

reply to post by endisnighe


what makes me wonder and lose hope is how gullible and naive people are, the so call health care reform is not even work on "yet".

The passing was done now because the April death line.

Now the private insurance companies will be writting and embelishing the final bill as usual.

This is the prof,

capwiz.com...

Later in the week, the Senate is likely to begin work on this bill to make changes to the health care overhaul legislation Congress just passed and to revise student loan procedures.

So in other words the bill was passed without been finished.

How convenient.






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reply to post by endisnighe


Maybe you should've invested in them too...or were you sure reform would fail?

Simple answer: People think insurance companies are going to make money off of this so they invested in them.

Complex answer: People are ignoring new mandates, such as the one where insurance companies MUST use 80% of their revenue on medical expenditures (doctor's, test, 'etc.). If they spend less than that it MUST be given back to the insuree in the form of a rebate.

The out of pocket maximum for a family plan $11,900, some of which will be paid to you by the government if you make less than 400% of the Federal Poverty Level.

Insurance companies are going to be forced to cover pre-existing conditions, so they're going to lose MORE.

reply to post by endisnighe


I am not forgetting my friend, but if you have been following the ever increasing powers of the Federal government since Bush you know that this was coming along the way, The problem was that this was to happen during the bailouts to the banking institutions, but the outrage of the people was to much to handle, so now with the bailout of the private insurance companies the excuse is there.

Do you know that after the vote for the health care bill, it was another vote to work on it?.

Yes this bill tells anybody that knows what politics are about and follow what is the real issue behind the bailout of the insurance companies a slap to the America working class and the ones to be serve with a burden of the debt and take over of private entities in our lives.

Reconciliation Act of 2010 - H.R.4872

"Later in the week, the Senate is likely to begin work on this bill to make changes to the health care overhaul legislation Congress just passed and to revise student loan procedures."

This bill is actually how the private insurance companies will have the power to give the finishing touches to the mandatory health care bill.

Yes the bill that Obama will sign is nothing but a blank paper

People are so naive in this nation that just breake my hart.

In other words the hordes of private insurance lawyers and lobbyist will doing the finalization of making us their slaves.






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reply to post by links234


You still do no get it, my friend, read my last post, the bill is not even finished yet, is another legislation that will do that, so the bill that was sign was nothing but a blank paper and the hordes of private insurance lawyers will be doing the final touches on the bill later on in the week.

You really have not follow the entire scam of the health care reform at all.

Signing a blank paper is like signing a blank check to add how much you want in it at the end.

By 2013 the taxes on the health care reform will be finalized and the talks of Medicare tax increase also.

That is why the IRS is to monitor all this, as entitlement programs they will come out of your check if you are a hard working American that contributes to the work force, that means most of the working class in the nation, the ones that actually are tag with the burden of the nations debt.

Wake up and smell the deception.

In Massachusetts the health care reform and the model for Obama care has not done anything to lower the increasing fees of the private insurance companies, the state is falling into bankruptcy and to cover up for the failure Obama has been funneling millions of dollars to keep the system working..

So the bill can pass, now is over.

All Massachusetts did was to force people into been slaves to private insurance while increasing the tax burden on the working class.

reply to post by links234


So, what you just stated here PROVES Obama lied again. So, you get subsidies if you are below 400% of poverty levels.

I wonder if that is 250k.

Yeah, SS and Medicare/Medicaid are not taxes. /s

Tell me again, where are all the SS funds at?

Here is a picture for you since nothing else seems to get across to people.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/cc5f7518bdd0.gif[/atsimg]

reply to post by endisnighe


Wait when the now officially to big to fail private health care business get into the mandatory tax wagon give away.

Life in America is going to get a lot harder on the working force rather than on the rich, but then again that is how is been for a long time.

And to think that many believe 250K is a lot of money, not if you are self employed and business owner.

Originally posted by endisnighe
So, what you just stated here PROVES Obama lied again.

Wait...what?

So, you get subsidies if you are below 400% of poverty levels.

I wonder if that is 250k.

HHS Federal Poverty Level site

It's 250k if you have like...16 people in your immediate family.

Yeah, SS and Medicare/Medicaid are not taxes. /s

Did I say they weren't?

Tell me again, where are all the SS funds at?

Here is a picture for you since nothing else seems to get across to people.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/cc5f7518bdd0.gif[/atsimg]

I don't remember telling you the first time.

The bright green is too much.