What Americans Really think about the Health care Reform, page 2

reply to post by drew hempel

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And that is how is going to stay, perhaps you forgot that our government is a corporate run government.

The burden of the tax in the nation falls in the working class.

Listen, research and learn.

When the filthy rich is in trouble our own corporate government give them tax payer money in what now has become the American bailouts.

That's how things work in our nation, the rich gets richer while the poor and the working force struggles.

Is never going to change.



[edit on 22-3-2010 by marg6043]

reply to post by poedxsoldiervet

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I watched Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow on MSNBC tonight and there was no report that 65% of those polled think health care reform represents a government takeover.

There were, however, many people polled who believe (as I do) that the reform doesn't go far enough, like including a single payer plan or a public option. They are usually counted in the total number of people who are not completely happy with what has passed.

Still, many people believe government has a place in our lives. Those who hate all government (but still collect their Social Security and Medicare and unemployment benefits and etc.) are not in the majority. There may be a lot and they may be loud, but the party of "no" has lost control of this country as a whole.

Would you like to know what concerns me the most about our new health care system? We are a nation with a modest sized population. I don't see us using a health card like Canada. No, I think the system will most likely want to utilize the VeriMed Xmark Healthlink implantable microchip to store all of our personal health data as well as our digital banking information for automatic health billing purposes.

This new universal healthcare is the perfect justification to chip us all. No chip? No health care.

reply to post by SLAYER69

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And people still doesn't get it, is not universal health care is a bailout to private insurance companies.

And still people doesn't see the deception the bill that Congress just passed is a blank piece of paper.

Another legislation is to be to work in it, yes this is not even in the media outlets.



Deceptions and more deceptions.

Reconciliation Act of 2010 - H.R.4872, The bill

Later in the week, the Senate is likely to begin work on this bill to make changes to the health care overhaul legislation Congress just passed and to revise student loan procedures..

This means hordes of private insurance lawyers and big pharma finalizing their take over.

Why will the president pass a bill that is not even finished yet?

source:
www.seniorark.com...


Item 1, from this Advocate group...

Seniors---Did You Know? Twenty percent of Americans receive Medicare insurance through private insurance companies. The program is called Part "C", or Medicare Advantage. Many Seniors believe that the Part B insurance premium we all pay (now $96.40/mo), and a small premium
paid to the private insurer, covers our care. NO WAY! Your private insurer is paid between $9,600 and $12,000 each year to cover your individual health expense. Is it any wonder that the health insurance stocks are soaring on the back of our Medicare trust fund?
Mystery solved as to why insurers are paying big dollars for your congressman's vote on any healthcare issue. Democrats have said these payments are excessive, and propose cutting them by about 15%. Opponents have used this cut to decry a "Democratic cut in Medicare",
when in fact it is intended to bring these payments more in line with the real costs of Senior healthcare. We have a lot of trouble believing the crocodile tears of conservatives who are complaining about Medicare cuts, when the base of their party proposes a total elimination of the program.

At the same time we mistrust the strident efforts of the AARP, and the Alliance for Retired Americans, both of which support these Medicare Advantage cuts, while at the same time profiting from Medigap supplement programs that would benefit from such cuts.
Both AARP and The Alliance for Retired Americans off supplement programs, but not Medicare Advantage. Hmmm!

Where is the truth?

Item #2 from this advocate group

Opinion: March 1, 2010 - Robert Fassbach, editor: www.SeniorArk.com
On December 7, 2009 SeniorArk withdrew support for the current Health Insurance Reform effort. (See article) The bill had been so weakened by conservative Democrats, independent Joe Lieberman, and Republicans who feigned bi-partisanship, that it became little more than a jackpot for private health insurance companies. There is little "reform". We can only hope that if it passes, it will become the foundation for more
sweeping reform. We have again changed our position. Today we believe that passing the bill is better for Americans over 50 than not passing. Americans over 50 who have no health insurance should have a better chance of obtaining it through this bill. And the bill will
immediately begin the process of eliminating the doughnut hole in our prescription drug program. If we believed that "starting over" would lead to a more comprehensive reform of the insurance system, we would support it. But those who call for "starting over" have NO
intention of developing such reform. They want to kill reform, as has happened for decades under influence from the bloated insurance industry, and those they buy.
Pass this bill as a beginning. Those who vote against it will again be on the wrong side of history. Similar thinking voted against the establishment of Social Security, Medicare, and the G.I. Bill.
But - - this bill should only signal the beginning of a more serious effort to pass sweeping healthcare reform. Pass the current bill immediately, and start talking about Medicare for all in America. It should become the drumbeat of those who would seek universal healthcare. "Medicare for all" is the drumbeat. Start repeating it. This would be far simpler, and would result in high quality care for all, cradle to grave, at a much reduced price.
Medicare has successfully delivered quality healthcare for nearly 50 years, and with administrative costs of only 3% (Health insurance companies have balked at being limited to 15%, and their goal is 35% for costs and profits).

"Medicare for all" is very workable. The machinery is already in place. No new 2,000 pages
(or whatever the critics keep increasing this number to be). For insurers and drug manufacturers, this proposal is the ultimate heresy. But Congress is elected to serve the needs of the citizens, not the profits of companies bent on giving us as little care as
possible. We cannot sustain a further burden on the Medicare Trust Fund,
so costs to the non-senior member must be determined, and assessed to the user, or the employer. But this would be a very efficient, proven, health delivery method. Remember, it's "Medicare for all"

i would ADD, ""Medicare For All"" should include:
the Congress, Senate, All Government employees, elected or appointed too


Just my 2¢

(there's the 'cent' symbol, copy & paste in the future)




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