Iceland's eruptions could have global consequences

reply to post by thoughtsfull


Lets not forget the impact it's having on glaciers...
Those who know about such things are were already worried about the effect of to much fresh water's effect on the gulf stream... if they did have multi eruptions seems to me that would only speed up the process...

reply to post by DaddyBare


very true... i wonder also what that water would contain and how much of a hazard it would be to marine life in the fertile seas around Iceland.

The Times are suggesting that at the moment the current situaton (groundings etc) may continue for (at least) 5 more days

This animation shows the path of the current ash clouds
www.esa.int...

But I wonder what would happen if it goes the other way, does the wind flow the other way towards North America? and if it does is that the only time Europe will get a reprieve?

Not good all round really.

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
reply to post by DaddyBare

 

But I wonder what would happen if it goes the other way, does the wind flow the other way towards North America? and if it does is that the only time Europe will get a reprieve?

Not good all round really.

That is OK as such not affecting USA etc from te current event.

As Iceland sits basically most of the time under the Jet Stream, which travels always from West to east (though as it approaches Iceland/northeren UK drops south east) this should not be an issue.

The Jet Stream does though move around a bit, but not too much.

When in the last event of huge significance globaly in Iceland, like the potential for Katla when she goes over the next couple of years, the amount of Ejected materail, both in ash and gaseous form was soo much the Jet Stream carried it all around the globe and brought it to the USA from the other side, ie.e. the West, affecting crops and weather there.

So until Katla goes, and the size and length of the event the USA should not have any affects.

Kind Regards,

Elf
Elf edit to correct info west/east lol.

[edit on 16-4-2010 by MischeviousElf]

reply to post by thoughtsfull


As far as I know...prevailing winds in the northern hemisphere are always west to east... so no the US and Canada should be safe

just to add one more little thing...
Here's a Link to a Live Web Cam of Eyjafjallajökull...

"Eyjafjallajökull" Now that's a word I'll never be able to say without hurting myself

reply to post by MischeviousElf


Cheers to both of you (seems I was being to lazy to look it up) Now at least I understand the route it is taking..

So if it continues to spew these amount of ash we can see quite a consistent shut down of the Northern European airspace...

reply to post by DaddyBare


As for Pronouncing the words, I have skipping across Euro TV channels today (kids are at home) and only the French have attempted to pronounce it, got tongue tied and gave up

BTW, it seems there are other volcanos in the area starting to speak up and siezmic activity is increasing...

rather worrysome if other volcanos in the region start to join this party..

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4f31f4ce569f.png[/atsimg]

The map above shows the present distribution of volcanic ash.

Sorry for the image being in another language, but it`s a good map to show the extent of the ash covering Europe.

reply to post by Hithe Merinos


Looks like a big red beast hunching down with its jaws open....

Originally posted by thoughtsfull

As for Pronouncing the words, I have skipping across Euro TV channels today (kids are at home) and only the French have attempted to pronounce it, got tongue tied and gave up

It really is an odd word.. looks like it should be pronounced.. Ayjaff Jalla Jockle.. but is pronouced something like Eva Glow Luk *shrugs*

en.wikipedia.org...:Eyjafjallaj%C3%B6kull.ogg

Originally posted by yzzyUK
reply to post by Hithe Merinos

 

Looks like a big red beast hunching down with its jaws open....

To me it resembles a scorpion "Big Beast" nonetheless.

Originally posted by yzzyUK

Originally posted by thoughtsfull

As for Pronouncing the words, I have skipping across Euro TV channels today (kids are at home) and only the French have attempted to pronounce it, got tongue tied and gave up

It really is an odd word.. looks like it should be pronounced.. Ayjaff Jalla Jockle.. but is pronouced something like Eva Glow Luk *shrugs*

en.wikipedia.org...:Eyjafjallaj%C3%B6kull.ogg

I tried a few times listening to an Icelandic scientist pronounce it and simply gave up as he spoke so fast... you could see the pained look on the Journalist's face as if he was mentally trying to reproduce the sounds, but in the end gave up and simply kept pointing at the pretty pictures of the eruption

We really do live in interesting times

Off topic but the picture I saw on the BBC looked like Iceland being sick on Europe..

news.bbc.co.uk...

Back on topic, the article below the picture covers the uncertain timescales involved..

Scientists are struggling to work out if the eruption itself could continue for days, weeks or even months.

So my question is, have they (Scientists) ever been able to work out how long a volcanic eruption would last?

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reply to post by DaddyBare


I watched a programme on BBC2 last night about Volcanic Eruptions and there presence on Earth... chatting about all the major Eruptions over the years and saying that if the big one erupts (that being Yellowstone) then we'll all be in for some long hard years... it would be pitch black for a long time and the poisonous ash would be everywhere...

Lets hope this Icelantic one isnt a warning of whats to come as i've seen some thick black smog on the vids on the news and that doesnt look too friendly

Flagged!

reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist


Down here in New Mexico we got a couple even bigger than Yellowstone
One of my favorite fishing spots, Jemez Springs, is right smack dab in the middle of the Valles Caldera one of the smaller supervolcanoes.. lots of hot springs up there too...and naked people skinny dipping in those hot springs

Maybe I should take a drive up and see if anything looks different???

Hey all,

I managed to find a full copy of the Timewatch programme mentioned earlier in the thread about the 1783 eruption yesterday. It's hosted on the web here...

To watch it you will need to download and install the DivX web player and it is slow to play and load (for me anyway), but it's VERY interesting viewing.

MOD's feel free to remove the link if it goes against T&C.

Enjoy and stay safe.

Chasyb

Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

 

Down here in New Mexico we got a couple even bigger than Yellowstone
One of my favorite fishing spots, Jemez Springs, is right smack dab in the middle of the Valles Caldera one of the smaller supervolcanoes.. lots of hot springs up there too...and naked people skinny dipping in those hot springs

Maybe I should take a drive up and see if anything looks different???

Do you mean drive up to see if the naked people look any different?

Seriously though if those biggies erupt it will be like a Nuclear blast!!

I just found the link for Thursdays programme... very interesting:

www.bbc.co.uk...

[edit on 16-4-2010 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

Originally posted by Chasyb
Hey all,

I managed to find a full copy of the Timewatch programme mentioned earlier in the thread about the 1783 eruption yesterday. It's hosted on the web here...
Chasyb

Excellent Thanks.

Well everyone should watch that, as the effects we are seeing now, are the Baby if you like of the "Mother" of eruptions takes place, which is now highly likely, in Katla over the next couple of years.

It really is very powerfull as the event happened fairly recently in recorded history, and the historical records/proof show just what effects this event had for the population of Europe.

Coupled with Nasa'a research that I link on pg 1 of the OP showing the effects like drying up the Nile etc, and affecting African weather and rainfall (the effects in millions of deaths here is very real in modern Africa).

A big Katla event or the current one, which at latest reports is increasing in output, turning into an more eruptive event on the whole world is known, recorded and a very real and present danger to all of humanity.

Kind Regards,

Elf

[edit on 17-4-2010 by MischeviousElf]

Citizens of Iceland,

Due to the massive emission of carbon based gases, you need to purchase carbon offset credits of 2 million Euro to date. At the current emission rate, carbon emissions costs will be approximately $50,000 per day. Please make the check out to us...

Maurice Strong
David Suzuki
Al Gore
Silent Evil Overlord

Just a joke LOL...actually somehwat serious. Best wishes to all in Iceland. Wow, more to come...stay safe.

Is the sky noticeably more blue without air travel?
Is the current jet stream normal?

Peace

reply to post by ibiubu


Oh, you forgot to off set the 17,000 flights a day that have been stranded, so perhaps this works out to a carbon neutral scheme for Iceland!

I have been wondering what tech and industry we would need to invest in to attempt to deal with the issue of katla erupting..

lightweight Personal respirators?
Improved filtration systems, improved seals for our homes?
Improved air filtration for our cars/trains/boat engines?
Improved air filtration for car/train/boat cabins?
Specialised jet engines?
Special gunk for all the leading edges of aircraft (prevent wear)?
Peel off windscreens covers (like screen protectors to prevent scratching)?
Small bubbledomes (eden project type thing) for animals/crops??
Improvements in water purification?? (not sure of that is needed)

If it gets really dark..
Personal UV lamps to reduce SAD.. UV lamps for plants/animals..

Besides what toxins will be pumped into the seas? how will that affect marine life??

Ok so I think we'll be stuffed if Katla kicks off.. and only the rich will be able to afford all that stuff..

Pic of the Eden Project

Originally posted by DaddyBare



Well there you have it and I don't know if I should be worried or not... but there is some rather nasty history there

Nothing to be concerned about at all, maybe if continued eruptions become worse then maybe so but I have a power plant near me it doesn't concern me at all. You are over sensitised

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