With No One To Protect Them - Warning Graphic, page 1
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Topic started on 22-3-2010 @ 03:45 AM by Smell The Roses
Hello ATS. With the HCR reform passing today, an economic disaster looming, and a doom and gloom mood lingering, I would like to bring back the reality of how bad it can really be. This movie should make you realize how precious life is here on Earth, and how we as human beings are truly what matters most. Love your family and friends and remember it can always be worse. Things may get rough ahead but it will never, ever, be as bad as in some places.

America gives 15 billion annually to foreign aid, yet roughly 175 billion is needed.
Foreign aid goes towards helping the children of this world as well as other important issues. The amount of money spent on Wars in America since 2001 makes you wonder if we are spending in the right places? Paying politicians, doctors, celebrities, and athletes the amount we do also makes you wonder. "Hollywood's 10 best-paid actors, female and male...Collectively, the big screen's leading men took home an estimated $487 million between June 1, 2007, and June 1, 2008, compared with the leading ladies' haul of $244.5 million." We are talking only 20 actors making over $725 million A YEAR!!!

- Film and Music Industry brings in $87 Billion annually.
- Entertainment and Recreation Industry brings in $182 Billion annually.
- Computers and Electronics Industry brings in $381 Billion annually.
- Food and Beverage Industry brings in $659 Billion annually.

- Doing the math that is $1,309 Billion or $1.3 Trillion annually from Industry. Remember this is ONLY America! Imagine Globally! Now remember America gives a whopping 15 billion a year to support foreign aid? You may be thinking, well why help more countries when we need so much help at home. Look at the money we make yearly, too bad it is mostly being used to fight wars and create rich people...

There are 150 million children homeless in the world today, and 3 billion living in horrific poverty. I feel like the entire global agenda is to make money at all costs and the consequences are running deeply. The future of the world lies in children, not money, not oil, and certainly not in excessive, unneeded, unjustified government spending and rich selfish power junkies.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGERY
(The scene at 5:30 in the movie is enough to bring you to tears)

With No One To Protect Them



[edit on 22-3-2010 by Smell The Roses]



reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 06:40 AM by Ridhya
I hate to play the monster, but its just the way things work. Every culture knows this, hence you have things like the 'yin yang' symbol, you cant have one without the other. In order for people to live rich, or even middle class, there has to be the equal opposite force, poverty. Ill link my favourite tv show here, its a comedy so warn you it may offend:Xavier: happiness = murder
(I cant watch it as its US only but I have the DVD)

You really make it seem like tax $ pays celebritties but it doesnt, the producers do, the studio does, because they know theyll make money with a big name.

I have to ask, because I know a lot of hypocritical activists, do you go to movies? If it bothers you so much how much they make, you better not be supporting them... how many people do I know who hate corporations and poverty, yet wear nike and eat at mcdonalds, play video games and listen to their ipod... if you do this stuff YOU are funding it, convenience over morals though, right...

We DONT need 100-whatever billion to fix our problems, 15b is MORE than enough, its just how we spend it, the prerequisites on it, like we give you this money on condition you spend it HERE, on our products. Its not free: nothing is. It helps stimulate their economy. Strings attached.

Hell take $1 billion. Pay a bunch of poor Africans to construct a huge medical centre in Africa, spend another billion/year employing 2500 specialised personnell, thats $400,000 EACH, how many could they treat? Hell give them $80,000 a year each, and employ more, local people too, and hire locals to do cleaning, construction, etc.
Part 2: set aside another billion to hire people to clean up the land, and then cultivate it, get some organic crops and not GMO and there, problem solved again.

Give them a fish, vs giving them a fishing rod, you know the drill.

Giving more money is a bloody scam. Spending less money more wisely is the only necessity.

Complaining about capitalism, big whoop, we live in capitalist society we play by their rules. Their rules are profits profits, and the best way to get them is exploitation (capitalise means exploit, if you didnt know). So, hit em where it hurts. Refuse to pay taxes, go find your own wild food and cultivate it, raise your own animals and flourish. You have to be willing to die for your beliefs, for freedom, or youll never break free, most people just find it easier to be a bleeding heart, because they love the convenience of the system.

Hell, if you really care, you wont donate money, youll start collecting rakes and shovels and seeds, and send them over in a giant box, labelled "Help Yourselves".
Two meanings there really.

Cause I know itll be assumed im cold hearted, I volunteer and such, Im just a realist. Problems: easily fixed. People dont try to change the system: they promote it by thinking within its limits. Our system happens to be profit driven, get over it, even the end of your videos promoting the guys film production.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 02:27 PM by Smell The Roses
reply to post by tigpoppa



You have no clue what you are talking about. These children have no choice. Please take your ignorance elsewhere, this thread will not be trolled or the posts will be reported.

Thanks.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 02:37 PM by jeffiriff
reply to post by tigpoppa



Yeah those starving diseased children need to get off their lazy bums and start looking for jobs. Greedy little punks....

How very Christian of you......




reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 02:47 PM by Smell The Roses
reply to post by indianajoe77



I kind of agree with you. I do think that the rich should do more given what they are capable of but...Bill Gates and Warren Buffet both gave 8 billion out of their own pockets recently to help America with these issues as well as others. While I agree that these rich moguls could do more, hell they could do a lot more, I don't think that is where the true problem lies. They are at least doing a lot and many celebrities donate and set up their own charities to help with these things. The governments of the world however could care less. Do you really think that 15 billion, in America, is a lot of money? Look at the examples I gave and poke around a bit and you will see the real issue. Who will run this planet in the future? The children of the world will, and unless they start getting more help most will never get the chance to even try.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 02:52 PM by MisterMan
reply to post by tigpoppa



Your trolling is not appreciated. Please leave this thread and take your fail with you.



reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 03:16 PM by Smell The Roses
reply to post by indianajoe77



I agree with you joe. The point of this thread was to make aware the situation around the globe. I am not trying to come up with any answer to the problem, as I am not qualified to do so. But I am sick of people around here feeling so sorry for themselves because of some things that we can all deal with. Being born into the situation as these children are is hopeless, They have no choice whether to succeed or fail, they are born into failure. I would just like people to realize that it can always be worse than they have it. This video should make people feel a lot less depressed about things like the HCR because it is not like we are going to be born into slavery, prostitution, or killed because we lack humane practices. Our problems here are minimal comparably.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 03:40 PM by getreadyalready
The suffering is sad, but the industry and rich people can't save these people. You said yourself that we are $170 Billion short. If we take all those hundreds of millions of dollars from those leading men and ladies, now we are only $169 Billion short? The industry employees 10's of thousands, possibly 100's of 1000's, and if we start trimming their profit margin, they start trimming their staff to stay afloat.

Things are never as simple as they seem. I suppose you never throw away food? I suppose you are living off 1500 calories a day, because that is all you need to function, and all that excess could go to a needy family? I am not pointing out any one person in particular, but all the starving and needy people cannot be saved unless we all control our greed and waste and excess. No single idea, or single industry, or any amount of fundraising will do anything more than a very temporary reprieve.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
I built a large spreadsheet to disprove a theory to several people I know. They are good people, but they misunderstand how this money works, and just how little money a few million is.

Lets take a small to medium corporation, say Pep Boys. I am going to make up some numbers, but they are close to industry standards, so it will illustrate my example. Lets say Pep Boys has 1500 stores, with 1500 store managers and 30,000 lower paid employees. They have 300 District Managers, 30 Regional Managers, 10 Vice Presidents, a CEO, and a COO.

Lets say their store managers make $50,000 per year, but their CEO and COO make $2.5 million per year. That is pretty close to industry standard. Suppose we decide to limit each level of management at 10% wage increase and save a bunch of money at the top, and then we want to share that money with our 15,000 front-line employees. 300 District Managers now make 55K, 30 Regional Managers now make 62.5K, 10 VP's now make 70K, and the CEO and COO now make $77K. We saved around $5 million dollars by making this change. We are geniuses! Our employees will LOVE US!

We just gave 30,000 employees a $3 per week raise! And at the same time we sabotaged our company and we are forced to hire subpar Upper Management and Leadership at all levels, and more than likely for that extra $3 per week, our employees will begin to suffer on many other levels.

Not such a good plan after all?



[edit on 22-3-2010 by getreadyalready]


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 03:49 PM by Smell The Roses
reply to post by getreadyalready



I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you. If anybody had the answers we would not be in the situation globally, which we are. You make good points and you bring to attention the real problems with trying to fix the solution with America's help only. We do a large part, and yes if we took off the top everyday people would suffer here from less income. I think if we didn't live in such an inflated, overpriced society we would not have such issues. I think one of the main problems here is greed.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 05:19 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by Smell The Roses



Thank you.

I feel like the problems do have solutions, and the solutions are fairly simple, yet vastly out of reach!

Does anybody outside of a coal miner, a soldier in the field, or a professional athlete really need a 4000 calorie meal? The average office worker going through a drive through at lunch time consumes more calories than a kid in Haiti or Somlia or Ethiopia does all week. And for what? To grow a beer belly and pass the rest out their hind in and into Nitrogen enriched lakes and streams to pollute the water?

Does our "consumer-based" lifestyle make any sense? Why did we switch from Glass to Plastic and then complain about all the plastic waste, and the bio-hazard, and the landfills, and the toxins? Now it is "green" to re-use glass, but 50 or 100 years ago it just made good sense to conserve the things you already had! Why throw them away and buy more?

I fixed a girl's car a few weeks ago. A nice White Nissan Maxima, she bought a new honeycomb to go inside the plastic bumper, and a new bumper, and a new bumper brace, two crash absorbant mounts, a radiator support, a new plastic radiator, and a new A/C condensor. She paid about $1500 for all the stuff and paid me $200 to put it together. We threw all the old broken stuff away, and I put the car together in about 3 hours. * * * * * That same weekend a friend of my brothers bought an old VW Bus/Camper. He asked me to fix the bumper (It doesn't have a radiator or A/C.) We took the Chrome Plated, Steel bumper off, beat it with a sledge hammer and bent it with a giant crescent wrench until it was almost perfect. Then he sanded it down and painted it with Chrome Spray paint. $20 and 4 beers later, his van looked brand new!!

All of our "Progress" has taken us back centuries! Computers and Social Networking are tremendous! New Power Sources and Water Purifying technologies are tremendous! Now if we could just get back the frugality of 100 years ago, and start using some common sense with our technology, we would be living the life of the Jetsons, and have a Utopian world!
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