They aren't listening to the polls concerning this bill. They aren't listening to the mail they get about this issue. They pretty much promised that they will pass this issue. They pretty much bribed a lot of people to pass this issue.

Why would people show up to protest when they know the game is rigged?

IMO, Reps are just as happy as Dems that this bill will pass. Gives them ammo for the upcoming election.

It isn't about the people, all about the power.

So because there were not millions of people kicking and screaming in Washington DC means everyone wants the bill to pass?

Who's to say the People are not at home watching C-Span to see if they need to arm up before coming to DC to express their solid opinion on the matter?

Meh, it will just be a fiasco when the people decide to disobey the law. Are we to jail or fine millions of citizens to prove a point?

The smartest thing Congress could do if passing the bill is to never return to their home state again.

Originally posted by Ahabstar
So because there were not millions of people kicking and screaming in Washington DC means everyone wants the bill to pass?

mmm, nope. Don't think I said that. Despite the spin, it's pretty clear the split in America is pretty much down the middle, as with most polarizing issues. It's no more genuine to say that most want it than it is to say most don't want it. Fact is most don't know what they want, they just go with their party.

Who's to say the People are not at home watching C-Span to see if they need to arm up before coming to DC to express their solid opinion on the matter?

uhhh, because no one with half a brain is doing that maybe? Because most sane people know that that type of extremist talk is just that..., TALK, and the issue is about healthcare reform and not about secession or communism? Because when the Republican leaders on the right finally move on to the next "let's get Obama" issue, all of the minions on the right will go back inside their homes, sit back in front of their T.V's and then sign up for the very healthcare subsidies they were just manipulated into opposing. Because Your average "Republican" in middle America doesn't have a clue what they just opposed, just like the average Democrat has no idea what just got signed into law.

Meh, it will just be a fiasco when the people decide to disobey the law. Are we to jail or fine millions of citizens to prove a point?

That's called protesting, yes and trust me, there aren't millions that seriously opposed healthcare.

The smartest thing Congress could do if passing the bill is to never return to their home state again.

That's partisan talk. Fact is (and you know this to be true), the struggles will be forgotten after about 1 month, and the mid-term will have nothing to do with healthcare no matter how hard the right tries. Obama's people will live or die by the unemployment rate. Bottom line. If it's improved by November, Dems will retain seats. If it's the same or up, Dems will lose 1 or 2 houses. If anyone thinks otherwise, if anyone doesn't think that from now til November, the only thing that will survive is the positive immediate benefits of this bill, then you're dreaming.

If the Right challenges Dems in the mid-term on Healthcare, they will lose that battle, guaranteed. Americans have a short memory, and none of the negative rhetoric from the past year will stick.

Originally posted by jam321
They aren't listening to the polls concerning this bill. They aren't listening to the mail they get about this issue. They pretty much promised that they will pass this issue. They pretty much bribed a lot of people to pass this issue.

Wait a minute, your logic is flawed. Actually, Obama RAN on reforming healthcare, almost in the exact way that he just did. The majority of Americans ELECTED him knowing exactly what he was going to do. The premise that those same people now don't like what he's doing is preposterous.

As the matter of fact, a great deal of the non-right opposition that he's encountered ISN'T on reform (as many righties will have you believe), it's because he didn't keep his promise on a public option. The right's just spun that critical point a little bit

Yes, many Americans opposed the current bill, but that's because they were FOR the public option.