Using an Executive Order to pass legislation! UNCONSTITUTIONAL?, page 1
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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 02:46 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by endisnighe



Breaking on Drudge,

FLASH: Senate Republicans found a provision in the new House health care bill that likely makes it ineligible for expedited 'reconciliation' procedures in the Senate. Dems refused to meet with GOP and Parliamentarian.... Developing....




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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 02:48 PM by ventian
reply to post by endisnighe



It is very unconstitutional though I am no scholar. Those 3 separate bodies are there to provide checks and balances. By using an executive order to suspend the rules, the constitution is overridden. It is tyranny and it is bad.





reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 02:51 PM by endisnighe
reply to post by Stormdancer777



Is it in regards to what I just brought up?

To me, this sounds like the Executive Branch is interfering in the Legislative Branch.

Something is really wrong in Washington.

I just heard from CSPAN that Stupak is going to vote for it by a promise by Obama to execute the Executive Order.

Damn, I cannot believe they are doing this.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:21 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by endisnighe



I am totally confused I was hoping you could explain it to me, guess we will have to wait and see what transpires on Drudge.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:22 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by endisnighe





Something is really wrong in Washington.


We really have been infiltrated haven't we?


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:24 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by endisnighe



Why is it "unconstitutional" if President Obama does it, but not if former President Bush (number 43) does?

www.archives.gov...



reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:26 PM by 5 oClock
Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to
post by Stormdancer777



Is it in regards to what I just brought up?

To me, this sounds like the Executive Branch is interfering in the Legislative Branch.

Something is really wrong in Washington.

I just heard from CSPAN that Stupak is going to vote for it by a promise by Obama to execute the Executive Order.

Damn, I cannot believe they are doing this.


You took the words right out of my mouth.
What's it gonna take people???


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:26 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Maxmars


OK I lifted this, this is what I was looking for, does it help?

DON STEWART, McCONNELL SPOKESMAN: “Republicans have been trying to set up a meeting with Senate Democrats since yesterday to discuss this fatal point of order but have been met with nothing but silence. We suspect Democrats are slow walking us so as to have the House vote first. Since Senate Democrats refuse to meet with us and the Parliamentarian, we’ve informed our colleagues in the House that we believe the bill they’re now considering violates the clear language of Section 310g of the Congressional Budget Act, and the entire reconciliation bill is subject to a point of order and rejection in the Senate should it pass the House.”



reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:28 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by 5 oClock





What's it gonna take people???


Well two thirds of the country is against this monstrosity, why wait we might as well have a dictatorship.



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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:29 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by endisnighe



Oh, now I understand why this is getting so much "press" attention!

It's more of the same ole, same ole from the far-right neocon wing....like nutty Michelle Malkin:

michellemalkin.com...


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:31 PM by endisnighe
reply to post by weedwhacker



Well, not talking about Executive Orders only.

I am talking about the President using an Executive Order to sidestep language in legislation in Congress.

The House Reps had a problem with the Senate version, so instead of it going back to the Senate, Obama promises that he will execute an EO.

Yes, everything in regards to EO's I find abhorrent.

ALL OF THEM WW! Not just Obama's everyone of them in perpetuity. ALL OF THEM.

The system of our government was the 3 branches. Sorry, I find our country to be going down the road of a dictatorship. The power is getting funneled to the Executive Branch. There is no longer the separation required.

Welcome to the new US of A.



reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:31 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Misoir




I don't have health care, and I too am for reform but this bill, is a nightmare.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:34 PM by endisnighe
reply to post by weedwhacker



Sorry, I am watching CSPAN and I asked this myself.

It was not even mentioned before today!

If it is on MM's page or something, they may have gotten it from here. Check there time stamp.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:36 PM by 5 oClock
reply to post by Stormdancer777



I'm just getting more disgusted EVERY SINGLE DAY. I've work hard my whole life for what I have, never sucked the Gov. tit for ANYTHING.
To see this country going where were heading, I just want to stop contributing to the system, sit on my arse and start suckling the Gov. tit.

Screw it, let them pass every piece of crap legislation and let's just get it on.

2 party system.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:37 PM by Misoir
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to
post by Misoir




I don't have health care, and I too am for reform but this bill, is a nightmare.


Public option bill sponsored by sen. Michael Bennet has 51 co-signers in the senate so all they need to do is introduce it when this bill makes it to the senate.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 03:41 PM by TheCoffinman
www.christiannewswire.com...

It's quite simple actually. The U.S. Constitution declares that the legislative branch writes the laws of the land. And the law of the land supersedes any executive action. No executive order or regulatory policy can override a statutory mandate

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