I believe the US and Canada should be 1 country

I know all of the Canadians are going to flip out, and I understand why but please let me explain.

I would like to see America return to just worrying about our country and the countries on our borders, Canada and Mexico. In the beginning of the USA they had a vision that the US would encompass all of north america so that all people could live in liberty and mutual respect from the Atlantic to the Pacific. But the British held control of what is now Canada and ended that dream. I think we need to bring that dream back.

Of course since I want Canada to join the US we should obviously hold a referndum after years of serious debate and let the Americans and Canadians decide what we do. Allow all current Canadian citizens to have 100% equal rights as the USA and the current provinces in Canada would become US states. You would have electoral votes and could vote for president, it would be 1 country and 1 people.

The US and Canada share a fantastic and rich relationship. The US-Canada border is one of the longest, if not the longest peacefull border in history. We are both English speaking, except Quebec, our politics are alot alike. We are basically the same except you are quite more liberal, socialist and secular. So the right-wing fringe will bitch and moan as usual but it would be a succes for both Americans and Canadians.

I'm sure not everyone will agree with me because lately Americans, our government in particular, have been really annoying to Canadians and the world. But I hope that one day we can put aside our minor and petty differences, come together and become 1, just like the founders of America wanted.

Well I am American and I say NO. I like Canada the way it is and if it became part of the US you can kiss all the good things about Canada good bye.

I think its a great idea..

Sure while we're at it.. We'll just merge the EU and NAU.

That will be also great.

Then we should ethnically cleanse the rest of the world..

Thats the best part IMO..

reply to post by Dermo


No that would not be great. The EU should not exist in the first place, and neither should an NAU. I don't support a Union I support 100% annexation of Canada, obviously not by force though. Use a referendum in both countries and let the people decide.

I say "Why not?" Their government leaders get their medical care down here already, rather than at home, so we can't be too bad. We'll just run it like China and Hong Kong. Canada can be the socialist side, and the U.S.A. can be the capitalist side. It'll make it a lot easier for those on the socialist side to get complex medical procedures unavailable on their side if needed.

As a Canadian, I have to agree with Queen Grey on this topic.
Our political system is entirely different than America's. Although we share the longest undefended border in the world, there is no way in hell that we should join with the US. Well, let me correct that. America can have the costly problem of support to the East Coast and take ove the annoyance that is Quebec. Most of us agree that these provinces are sucking the life out of our Treasury. Ontario and the West are fine as they are.

Best regards,
Cynic

reply to post by Misoir


Yeah because that would be fair...Canada has a population according to Google of 33million
Canada Population

The US has a population of 307million
US population


How would that be a fair vote to let the people decide when the US out numbers Canada..



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[edit on 3/21/2010 by mblahnikluver]

I absolutely disagree.

It would never work.

We are far too different a people in mindset and culture. More so, this would be such a complicated and drawn out affair to combine political, economic, health, public systems, it's not worth the trouble.

Countries are important, culture is important. These things needs to remain seperate. I am all for a more open relationship and relaxation of trade laws etc..

However, I will not support the assimilation of my culture into America society, that's exactly what would happen. More of you, not enough of us.

We would be a VERY small majority compared to Americans. Our voices would never be heard above yours.

I like things the way they are.

I think more Americans should immigrate to Canada though.

~Keeper

so that you can take all our soft-wood lumber and oil?!?!?! I DONT THINK SO

just joking. But seriously, i would not want to be an american. Not because you all bad or are trying to destroy your own country, but because I AM CANADIAN! (and damn proud)

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Originally posted by Cynic
As a Canadian, I have to agree with Queen Grey on this topic.
Our political system is entirely different than America's. Although we share the longest undefended border in the world, there is no way in hell that we should join with the US. Well, let me correct that. America can have the costly problem of support to the East Coast and take ove the annoyance that is Quebec. Most of us agree that these provinces are sucking the life out of our Treasury. Ontario and the West are fine as they are.

Best regards,
Cynic

I hope your not referring to Atlantic Provinces as well?

Let's all remember why the Atlantic is poor. Because we funded your very early trans canada highway and your railroad and the rest of the provinces never paid us back.

New Brunswick use to be the richest province in ALL of Canada until we began loaning money to other provinces. That, and the Federal government forgot there was anything past Quebec for lat 30 years.

~Keeper

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A NAU advocate...

This once great nation is already in it's death throws and you want to push the knife in further and finish the job.

Not that I have anything against Canada, but USA needs to return to her former glory. We need to worry about ourselves and not try to be the world's police force.

I was going to go on a long tirade, but I will stop here instead and just say...bad idea friend.

Semper Fidelis

-Nate

reply to post by mblahnikluver


You misunderstood me again.

Canada holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

USA holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

This way both countries citizens have a say in what happens to their country.

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by Dermo

 

No that would not be great. The EU should not exist in the first place, and neither should an NAU. I don't support a Union I support 100% annexation of Canada, obviously not by force though. Use a referendum in both countries and let the people decide.

Annexation?

That's the same thing as Assimilation. This is my problem with this entire idea. We here in Canada are a MOSAIC of people, versus the MELTING POT that is the US when it comes to immigration and culture.

~Keeper

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That idea can actually work. If this would actually happen, I think your idea would be the best bet. A capitalist side and a socialist side. With two different sides of the same coin, it would probably help out the economy a whole lot.

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by mblahnikluver

 

You misunderstood me again.

Canada holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

USA holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

This way both countries citizens have a say in what happens to their country.

Yeah because we all know voting is done in an absolute fair manner.

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Good sir, you bring up an extremely controversial and hot topic to the table. Like you, I too have an opinion (just like everyone else in existence). However, the great thing about life is that the majority of the time, only one opinion is right. But I'm not about to make that judgment.

I would say that as a Canadian myself, I would be strong against a complete annexation of Canada, dissolving our national identity to match that of our southern comrades. I don't believe such an event would happen without large amounts of violence. My fellow populace is extremely against such a move as we value the things that make Canada special. Many people insist that Canada is like America, just without America's flaws. Am I about to condone this statement and regard this as fact? I am not in a position to do so, thus I will not. However, Canadians can be patriotic (besides Hockey and beer) when they need to be, and when there is discussion over the United States, I can assure you that such suggestions do not go over well with the typical Canadian.

Now, this isn't to be offensive, but rather, honest. Canadians pride themselves in being a western nation, but not like America. The boarder that separates us acts as a remarkable defensive tool on the global stage, and we are generally seen as much different than the average American.

I too, like the American founders, have a dream, and that dream is to annex the top layer of states in America. This would assimilate cities like Minneapolis, Chicago, and Seattle. However, just because someone has a dream, doesn't mean it's a good one, amIrite?

Point is, I'm Canadian, and I love it. I'm not an American. I can assure you that you will find similar attitudes all across Canada. Except in Alberta that is.

So you want the USA to join Canada?

You think we are the same? Or very similar?

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All I am saying is that I would like to see what the founding fathers wanted finished. A united North American continent. If it happens that's great, if it doesn't that's fine.

I would just like to see the founding fathers dream completed, without any unions. Just 1 federal government and 63 states. And it be at the will of the people, not the governments.

All I am saying is that I would like to see what the founding fathers wanted finished. A united North American continent. If it happens that's great, if it doesn't that's fine.

I would just like to see the founding fathers dream completed, without any unions. Just 1 federal government and 63 states. And it be at the will of the people, not the governments.

The last thing this planet needs is more centralization of power.
No matter the guise it is under, and the "benefits" it may bring.

I agree to one thing, globalization in a peacfull manner.
There should not be -ANY- borders on this planet, and we should all be as one.
But NOT as the NWO wants it.
Without corruption.
This should happen out of pure brethrenship of mankind.
Not for TPTB to gain more influance.