I believe the US and Canada should be 1 country, page 1
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Topic started on 21-3-2010 @ 12:01 PM by Misoir
I know all of the Canadians are going to flip out, and I understand why but please let me explain.

I would like to see America return to just worrying about our country and the countries on our borders, Canada and Mexico. In the beginning of the USA they had a vision that the US would encompass all of north america so that all people could live in liberty and mutual respect from the Atlantic to the Pacific. But the British held control of what is now Canada and ended that dream. I think we need to bring that dream back.

Of course since I want Canada to join the US we should obviously hold a referndum after years of serious debate and let the Americans and Canadians decide what we do. Allow all current Canadian citizens to have 100% equal rights as the USA and the current provinces in Canada would become US states. You would have electoral votes and could vote for president, it would be 1 country and 1 people.

The US and Canada share a fantastic and rich relationship. The US-Canada border is one of the longest, if not the longest peacefull border in history. We are both English speaking, except Quebec, our politics are alot alike. We are basically the same except you are quite more liberal, socialist and secular. So the right-wing fringe will bitch and moan as usual but it would be a succes for both Americans and Canadians.

I'm sure not everyone will agree with me because lately Americans, our government in particular, have been really annoying to Canadians and the world. But I hope that one day we can put aside our minor and petty differences, come together and become 1, just like the founders of America wanted.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:11 PM by Misoir
reply to post by Dermo



No that would not be great. The EU should not exist in the first place, and neither should an NAU. I don't support a Union I support 100% annexation of Canada, obviously not by force though. Use a referendum in both countries and let the people decide.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:15 PM by mblahnikluver
reply to post by Misoir



Yeah because that would be fair...Canada has a population according to Google of 33million
Canada Population

The US has a population of 307million
US population


How would that be a fair vote to let the people decide when the US out numbers Canada..



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[edit on 3/21/2010 by mblahnikluver]


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:19 PM by Misoir
reply to post by mblahnikluver



You misunderstood me again.

Canada holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

USA holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

This way both countries citizens have a say in what happens to their country.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:20 PM by tothetenthpower
Originally posted by Misoir
reply to
post by Dermo



No that would not be great. The EU should not exist in the first place, and neither should an NAU. I don't support a Union I support 100% annexation of Canada, obviously not by force though. Use a referendum in both countries and let the people decide.


Annexation?

That's the same thing as Assimilation. This is my problem with this entire idea. We here in Canada are a MOSAIC of people, versus the MELTING POT that is the US when it comes to immigration and culture.

~Keeper


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:21 PM by Maddogkull
reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II



That idea can actually work. If this would actually happen, I think your idea would be the best bet. A capitalist side and a socialist side. With two different sides of the same coin, it would probably help out the economy a whole lot.


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:21 PM by mblahnikluver
Originally posted by Misoir
reply to
post by mblahnikluver



You misunderstood me again.

Canada holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

USA holds a referendum where they would need 66% of the vote yes to merge.

This way both countries citizens have a say in what happens to their country.


Yeah because we all know voting is done in an absolute fair manner.



reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:23 PM by For(Home)Country
reply to post by Misoir



Good sir, you bring up an extremely controversial and hot topic to the table. Like you, I too have an opinion (just like everyone else in existence). However, the great thing about life is that the majority of the time, only one opinion is right. But I'm not about to make that judgment.

I would say that as a Canadian myself, I would be strong against a complete annexation of Canada, dissolving our national identity to match that of our southern comrades. I don't believe such an event would happen without large amounts of violence. My fellow populace is extremely against such a move as we value the things that make Canada special. Many people insist that Canada is like America, just without America's flaws. Am I about to condone this statement and regard this as fact? I am not in a position to do so, thus I will not. However, Canadians can be patriotic (besides Hockey and beer) when they need to be, and when there is discussion over the United States, I can assure you that such suggestions do not go over well with the typical Canadian.

Now, this isn't to be offensive, but rather, honest. Canadians pride themselves in being a western nation, but not like America. The boarder that separates us acts as a remarkable defensive tool on the global stage, and we are generally seen as much different than the average American.

I too, like the American founders, have a dream, and that dream is to annex the top layer of states in America. This would assimilate cities like Minneapolis, Chicago, and Seattle. However, just because someone has a dream, doesn't mean it's a good one, amIrite?

Point is, I'm Canadian, and I love it. I'm not an American. I can assure you that you will find similar attitudes all across Canada. Except in Alberta that is.

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