IRS will be enforcing your purchase of Health Care Insurance!

reply to post by parrothead0333


HEYYY, quit being so common sensecal!

reply to post by budro


HEYYY, quit being so contrarian, in about 5 years, a computer based phone/computer/tv/stereo/online video/etc/etc/etc will be a right!

C'mon, you cannot expect to supply rights for just anything can you?

reply to post by David9176


I do not know if I addressed you, but here goes, tough titty says the kitty. I thought I could do something more profound, but I could care less. Damn, I must be an ass or I could be a prophet. Here is the thing David, get a damn country that has your same values. I have heard you whine enough. Get a DAMN life for you children and quit expecting me to support them!

reply to post by ALLis0NE


Yeah, the only one's paying now are free

reply to post by ALLis0NE


So you think people that do not use the system should pay? Thanks for putting a gun to my head!

Okay, thanks everyone for commenting.

I did not realize that I would get this many comments. If I missed you, I am sorry.

As I am sorry that our government thinks that MANDATORY anything will solve ANYTHING!

Oh the madness!

I hear you man, sadly most people still trust that the gov. is doing things for them, most people are so brain dead they actually believe anything this current gov. does will benefit them. I have to laugh. This is a massive tax and power grab, its just that simple.

17k new IRS agents...... That fact alone should cause a revolt (especially in such a delicate economic environment). Good luck everyone, because this might just be the little extra nudge to push the whole economy off the cliff. Oh well... if so.. good riddance

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[edit on 21-3-2010 by elcapitano75]

reply to post by Terapin


No entitlement program EVER reduced the debt. Not one. This is pure agenda driven, drivel that reeks of Illuminati and Bilderberg. Watch, the next "agenda" item will be amnesty for illegals. The dems need to firm up their, ahem, base and will do so by making illegals...legal. That way they are assured millions of votes to secure their power come November and beyond. Don't think them stupid for what they are doing. This is a good ol one-two punch and they are executing it. Once they secure their power base, then the full agenda of the progressives will come to play.

America died today. And if I see smug Pelosi on TV playing it up for the cameras, I'm going to puke. That woman needs to feel the weight of the health care system she's putting forward. Nobody in Congress should get preferential treatment. And if they're too sick, do as Obama suggested, give 'em some pain pills and send them home to die.

[edit on 22-3-2010 by Freenrgy2]

this is bull-...I already pay for these irresponsible freeloaders to have a roof over their heads...put dinner on their table...pay for their healthcare...what else is going to happen... Its a sad thing when ppl manipulate the system and just sit on their lazy ases all day and let me go to work and pay for their crap...its time to give them some responsibility!!!!!!!!

NM, These people are mean.

[edit on 21-3-2010 by Theone2000]

reply to post by Theone2000


You joined today?

Just wondering, do you have ANY charity places near you?

I have not worked for over 2 years now and have not asked for help from the government. I am just wondering if you have asked help from your family?

Pride is a sin in my eyes. Is it in yours? Do you feel the world owes you something?

Like I said, it is surprising that you have joined today and have spilled your guts on my thread.

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by Theone2000

 

You joined today?

Just wondering, do you have ANY charity places near you?

I have not worked for over 2 years now and have not asked for help from the government. I am just wondering if you have asked help from your family?

Pride is a sin in my eyes. Is it in yours? Do you feel the world owes you something?

Like I said, it is surprising that you have joined today and have spilled your guts on my thread.

NM, These people are mean.

[edit on 21-3-2010 by Theone2000]

Well, there it is. This so-called "reform" has passed. The big wigs in the various insurance companies must be popping open the bubbly right now because they just got a nice little cash infusion. After all, you know you what happens when you sponsor political candidates...

Did you know that Peter Lewis (of Progressive Insurance) donated millions to the Democratic Party, American Coming Together and Soros's MoveOn.org? I'm sure when we start breaking it down we'll begin to see a lot of these things.

You know, I just realized something. The small company I work for doesn't provide health insurance to the few employees who are there. We've taken severe blows during the Recession, and if there is a government mandate to provide insurance, the company will have no choice but to close up shop. Just another eliminated local business in a long line of them this year.



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reply to post by Someone336


You know several months ago I said to buy MASSIVE amounts of insurance stock.

I wonder if we checked both Dem and Repub stock purchases if we would not see a trend.

We are SO screwed and people on the Dem side actually think they won.

Of course they have, if they are a member of the unions or the Demoncrats.

Sorry Mods, but you have to admit they deserve it. Just as the Reputicrats.

I watched Fox News push the agenda. It was obvious to people that could see beyond the veil. They wanted it to pass just as the Dems did.

Thanks TWO HEADED SNAKE!

The IRS enforces your financial participation in the illegal wars (by international standards) that are being waged now in the Middle East. Your great grandchildren will be paying the IRS for today's wars too. At least Haliburton and the weapons manufacturers which the majority of the Bush administration have worked or currently work for are getting something out of it . The IRS also enforces your bailing out of financial institutions that ripped you off in the first place, and you are willing to cry socialism over health care. It is about time tax dollars went to something that ACTUALLY benefits the people and not some greedy corporate interests. It's also about time the U.S.A. joins the rest of the developed world and offers health care to all of it's citizens. A system that lets poor people die because they can't afford health care is the same as social-eugenics. A healthy population is a productive population.

Originally posted by Theone2000
I'm happy that it passed. Im disabled and am on SSI. I am schizophrenic and autistic. I don't like hand outs but ts hard for me the keep a job. Thank you to the feds is all I gotta say as they pay me my ssi check. They are not all that bad. Helping the meek is what its all about. (The super rich, wth 12 cars only need 1.)

[edit on 21-3-2010 by Theone2000]

Joined today I see Hmmmm. And what a sad story you have Hmmm. I am really starting to wonder what is truth and what are lies. No one should have to help the meek charity should be a choice not a law. You should be ashamed of yourself. If I was you I would be. And that is the truth.

Well, maybe I should go ahead and have that knee replacement surgery, I've been putting off. Then, immediately, cancel my insurance and tell the surgeon and hospital to send the bills to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington, DC 20500.

Hey, if I do it before the expansion of taxation on the medical device (artificial knee) company, I'll be saving Obama some money.

reply to post by endisnighe

I wonder if we checked both Dem and Repub stock purchases if we would not see a trend.

I would suspect that you are right on this. It would be a beneficial thing to check out. In the meantime, here are a couple of interesting tidbits:

According to FEC records, Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, along with her earlier senate campaign and political committees, received just under $200,000 in donations from Greenberg Traurig employees. And Barack Obama, who has not been operating a national political campaign as long as Clinton, is halfway there, banking just over $100,000 from the firm's attorneys.

But beyond merely earning donations from the firm's attorneys, Clinton and Obama have both benefited heavily from the firm's registered lobbyists and management.

In all, Senator Clinton received just under $50,000 in donations from Greenberg Traurig's registered lobbyists who represent interests ranging from health insurance company Humana to New Balance Shoes to Dole Food.

Clinton, Obama bank major donations from Abramoff's former law firm

During debate on the bill on May 19, 2004, Obama portrayed himself as a conciliatory figure. He acknowledged that he had "worked diligently with the insurance industry," as well as Republicans, to limit the legislation's reach and noted that the bill had undergone a "complete restructuring" after industry representatives "legitimately" raised fears that it would result in a single-payer system.

In Illinois, Obama dealt with lobbyists

I went to Open Secrets to take a peak at Obama's campaign contributors, and surprise-surprise:

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Originally posted by Theone2000
Helping the meek is what its all about.
[edit on 21-3-2010 by Theone2000]

Helping the meek? Sure i'm all for that.

BUT.... THIS time, if it really was about helping the meek, then it wouldn't need 1 IRS agent, let alone 17,000

reply to post by Mumbotron


On any other day I would agree with your rhetoric on the bizarre dichotomy of supporting wars via taxation and attacking universal healthcare... and yes, it is time that, in my opinion, that America stepped up it's healthcare.

But this isn't universal healthcare. This isn't socialism - I haven't seen cries of "socialism!" once on this thread. It's forced consumerism at gunpoint. Buy this, or face audits, fines, prison sentences... all so some of Obama's buddies can line their pockets.

Hell, if this actually was a public option kinda bill that didn't forced people into purchasing something regardless of the costs, I would be in the front row with the big foam finger shouting "Health Care Reform #1!" I'd even be shouting that if the bill simply cut costs, dropped the pre-existing condition crap, and allowed insurance companies to compete over state lines. But as with all things in this life, greed just gets in the way.



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Originally posted by Someone336
Well, there it is. This so-called "reform" has passed. The big wigs in the various insurance companies must be popping open the bubbly right now because they just got a nice little cash infusion. After all, you know you what happens when you sponsor political candidates...

Did you know that Peter Lewis (of Progressive Insurance) donated millions to the Democratic Party, American Coming Together and Soros's MoveOn.org? I'm sure when we start breaking it down we'll begin to see a lot of these things.

You know, I just realized something. The small company I work for doesn't provide health insurance to the few employees who are there. We've taken severe blows during the Recession, and if there is a government mandate to provide insurance, the company will have no choice but to close up shop. Just another eliminated local business in a long line of them this year.

[edit on 21-3-2010 by Someone336]

Your company will not have to buy private health insurance at today's rip-off rates, which it apparently can't afford. Tax dollars that are already being paid by all citizens will be re-allocated to something that will actually do you some good. Your company will do just fine.

Originally posted by Theone2000
I'm happy that it passed. Im disabled and am on SSI. I am schizophrenic and autistic. I don't like hand outs but ts hard for me the keep a job. Thank you to the feds is all I gotta say as they pay me my ssi check. They are not all that bad. Helping the meek is what its all about. (The super rich, wth 12 cars only need 1.)

[edit on 21-3-2010 by Theone2000]

I'm calling BS on this. I don't believe you are autistic and schizo......sorry dude, i ain't buying it.

If you can type and respond as well as you have here, it seems you would atleast be able to hold a work-at-home job, or some sort of low stress administrative job.

This HC bill is orchestrated chaos IMO. Create the chaos, then step in to maintain the new order.

"Order out of chaos"

reply to post by Mumbotron


Don't you mean, tax dollars that are yet to be collected by 17,000 new IRS goons?

I mean come on, on one hand it may help his company, on the other hand it may hurt it by what effect this is going to have on this already busted up economy.

But by all means, the gov. now has MORE control and MORE power.

[edit on 21-3-2010 by elcapitano75]

Originally posted by Mumbotron
Tax dollars that are already being paid by all citizens will be re-allocated to something that will actually do you some good. Your company will do just fine.

Can you provide page and line, in the bill, where this is outlined?