Originally posted by Terapin
So tell me . . . Why should I pay the medical costs for people who refuse to get health insurance??? I say yes, if people refuse to get insurance, then tax them. I pay for my insurance, and have no desire to pay for freeloaders. Freeloaders who refuse to get insurance are a huge reason why healthcare costs so much. Every time one of those morons gets sick they go to the emergency room, and you and I end up paying for it.

Are you so willing to pay for freeloaders? If so, then please pay for my insurance too.

You should know that you being forced to pay for freeloaders has been put upon you not by the freeloaders, but the democrats, you can thank them for this. They engineered it this way so you would be mad at all the freeloaders and not them.. pretty good trick since you fell for it

I don't understand all this talk about freeloaders.

I have no health insurance.

I rarely visit a doctor or hospital.

When I do, I pay for it in monthly installments afterward.

You mean to tell me there are people without insurance, who don't have to pay?

Guys guys guys guys guys....and gals. WakeTFU

Its over and has been.

We have come so far from what this country was supposed to be about we don’t even realize it.

We are discussing the legality of a product or service that 100 years ago was an option very few even looked at or could afford.

They created the system (they being the big corps ie...the ones who pay our leaders)
They created an option to have your expenses covered if you needed medical care. Anyone could buy INS, but many did not and elected to pay out of pocket or better yet use preventative measures such as a healthy diet.

They allowed it to become too expensive for the average Joe while lining their pockets (again the ones who pay our leaders) by means of frivolous law suits and coverage for those who could not pay.

So employers picked up the bill to attract good employees, still an option that many elected to forgo. Meanwhile the cost goes up 30% a year and the big wigs get fatter and fatter.

They systematically removed, and still are, natural cures and preventative treatment through healthy diets in order to protect us idiots that can’t take care of ourselves.

They do not allow many treatments that are fully effective for numerous diseases and scare the daylight out of every one with commercial after commercial regarding disease.

Now we are giving up our freedom so that we can all be taken care of under the system that they created for greed. Notwithstanding the fact that their drug companies are the number 1 killer in the US.


THE NUMBER ONE KILLER is pharmaceutical drugs!!!! Wake TFU

So now we are debating whether it is the end of the US because we will be forced to buy what was once an optional commodity that few partook of.

It was over a long time ago. We are a greedy dumbed down society as a whole. I don’t think most of you are or you would not have read this far. But go look around next time your at the store.

Won’t be long and they will have to make certain everyone is eating their genetically modified food and exercising and sleeping well and living healthy lifestyles so to keep it affordable so they can cover all these lazy donkey rear ends.

Do you not get it?

They will control our actions and tell us it is for our best interest and any of you who like to do unhealthy activities will be forbidden to do so unless you pay the government

Like to smoke? Like to fight MMA, like to ride motorcycles, drink beer, have wild sex on the roof of your home, eat potato chips or candy bars, energy drinks, and drink spring water... Damn anything that can be deemed unhealthy can be controlled.

I hate you stupid people that think this will help all those poor poor people.

I hate you a whole damn lot. I was one of those poor poor people and you know what, we went with out, I paid for the birth of my children and it hurt. I paid for my sons dental work and it hurt.

But you know what we did not do, we did not vacation, we did not eat out all the time, we went without. You arrogant fools that think you deserve something for nothing are going to be the final demsise of what could have been a free country.

Its been over for a long time.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
The IRS will not be enforcing your purchase of Health Care...please stop the mis-information.

In fact...your own state will be enforcing your purchase of Health Care. The IRS will only get involved if your state reports you don't have Health Care Insurance and are subject to the TAX...and then the IRS will enforce the TAX...like they do with all taxes.

Your attempts at mis-leading people is sad...why not just stick with the facts?

People are subject to laws and liable for taxes, no one is subject to a tax. There is a subject of a tax and based upon that subject we have a better understanding of who is actually liable for the tax. That is information, your assertion that if a state reports you don't have health care insurance and are subject to a tax is misinformation. NO ONE is subject to a tax, only those actually liable for a tax owe a tax.

Originally posted by parrothead0333
You will be paying for the freeloaders by paying taxes on your health insurance plan when this bill passes. This plan is wrong and unconstitutional and if you think this will help you then you are mistaken.

Right now, anyone who uses a doctor or hospital and pays their bill is paying for freeloaders too.

If the healthcare bill passes, hopefully EVERYONE will be paying for freeloaders, and not just the people who use doctors or hospitals (the elderly and the sick).

Id rather EVERYONE pitch in and pay for freeloaders instead of the elderly and the sick and injured only. That will lower healthcare costs for EVERYONE.