IRS will be enforcing your purchase of Health Care Insurance!, page 13

reply to post by budro

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Not only is it over, i think it is profound that you have detected that itis over
!. the New Deal
2. the Great Society
3. the Heathcare Law
These things were taught to us over and over in public school as Great things. We were supposed to salivate like pavlov's dog and and not only oppose Big Brother, but love him. The fact that we can oppose this socialist drivel shows that our conditioning has not reached the proper level yet. We can still see the difference between freedom and slavery.

reply to post by cobol

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I cant say why my eyes were opened or how it happened, life experience I guess. I imagine much like it happened for many who survey this site for bits and pieces of a larger picture. I started looking into things about 4 years ago and the information has changed my life.

Its is over is right. We have been delt an inferior hand and we have not even been told what game we are playing. Its not so much that Ive lost faith in mankind its actually that I think mankind has lost faith in itself.

I am the perfect example. I am a fully capable man, in good physical condition, sharp, high tolerence to pain, know what its like to go without, and ready to fight. Do I pursue this wicked whore who has adulterated this country????? NO I DO NOT. Why? I dont even know who I would pursue and to what avail? Would my brothers and sisters gather with me?
No they wont, because they do not even slightly recognize what they are loosing.

And those that do recognize are confused and comfortable.

Me, Ive come back around full circle. Should I decide to do something about this whore what would it be? Id start at home with my kids. Teaching them what Ive learned about going without and being a man and woman who protects the values that protect our country.

You know what scares me the most, this saga that we are smack in the middle of, if it were reworded, could then be read in our history books under the title of the communist revolution in china or the holocost.

People just cant see it and Ive given up trying.

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reply to post by endisnighe

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IRS will be enforcing your purchase of Health Care Insurance!

Apparently, they won't be:

REP. RON KIND (D-WI): And IRS agents are not going to go out and auditing taxpayers to verify if they have obtained acceptable health insurance, will they?

(IRS Commissioner Daniel) SHULMAN: No. … [I]t’s probably worth me being very clear because I think there have been some misconceptions out there. The way we envision this working is that HHS, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the exchanges will be working with the insurance companies to determine what is acceptable coverage.

All that will happen with the IRS is similar to a current 1099 where a bank sends IRS a statement that says “here’s the interest” someone owes, and they send it to the taxpayer. We expect to get a simple form — that we won’t look behind — that says this person has acceptable health coverage. There are not going to be any discussions about health coverage with an IRS employee.

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reply to post by links234

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We expect to get a simple form — that we won’t look behind — that says this person has acceptable health coverage.

What do you think is going to happen when they don't receive a form saying an individuals has acceptable coverage?

Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by links234

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What do you think is going to happen when they don't receive a form saying an individuals has acceptable coverage?

Apparently, nothing.

KIND: And no taxpayer is going to be subject to any IRS liens or levies, or jail time, for failing to disclose insurance requirements to the IRS?

SHULMAN: That is what the legislation calls for, yes.

Now, I can see the argument, "Well, the legislation says you get a fine!" I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Mr. Shulman either doesn't know he's supposed to gather that money or genuinely doesn't believe the IRS will play a major role in gathering that money.

I, like many others, have speculated that you simply recieve a smaller tax refund if the IRS doesn't get the form. Can you percieve that as them enforcing the law? Maybe.
Another idea might be that they recieve that form when you get your initial tax form when you get hired. If they don't get it they just take extra taxes out of your paycheck the following year.

Why don't you just call the IRS and say, 'What happens if I don't get insurance and refuse to pay a fine?' Then tell us all how it went.

reply to post by tom goose

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Health care gets added to your taxes. You usually get a tax return at the end of the year.

Now your return will be less because your health care was taken off, any funds owed to you by your government will have the health care adjusted to it. If you want to pay your health care and taxes by yourself, go ahead, but if you dont, the government will.

This is not how the legislation works. Maybe if you understood the legislation you would understand the valid point some of the "paranoid freaks" are making.

Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by tom goose

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Health care gets added to your taxes. You usually get a tax return at the end of the year.

Now your return will be less because your health care was taken off, any funds owed to you by your government will have the health care adjusted to it. If you want to pay your health care and taxes by yourself, go ahead, but if you dont, the government will.

This is not how the legislation works. Maybe if you understood the legislation you would understand the valid point some of the "paranoid freaks" are making.

that is how it works in Canada. I think i was clear on that.

If the US government had any sense they would be following our GREAT example, instead of calling us a bunch of socialist freaks.

I lump some americans in with the mentality of the government because of their views that freeloaders should not get a free ride. which i think is funny coming from a country that imports what... like 99% of its products. None of you can support yourselves and yet you flip when someone without a job wants some medical attention.

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