Intriguing Phobos Anomaly Part 2!, page 1

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Topic started on 21-3-2010 @ 08:41 AM by Outlawstar

Following on from my previous thread where I layed out some interesting anomalies on Phobos which I hadint seen addressed before, and Im pretty sure Im about to do the same thing, but if not, please let me know.

The area of interest on this widely acceptedly unusual moon, is indicated here.

Here I have edited the contrast and brightness so you can see clearly that the point of interest, is a less than mundane(in my eyes), strangely geometric, shadow!

Take particular note of the sharp right angles, and particularly what seems to be an "antenna" or "spire" of sorts protruding from the top.

If there is a structure hidden in the depths of this large shadowed area, could it look something like this simple shape?
Or is the "Spire shadow" merely from something else explainable within the right angled structure shadow? Hmm.

Here I have turned the image around for a more comprehendable view of the shape, not the seeming gap in the bottom of it!

So what do you guys think? Am I seeing something where there is nothing?IF you believe so please afford me an alternate explanation, or is there something of interest deep in those shadows?

Would like to hear some views and feedback on this, particularly in light of the Grunt mission to this strange satellite scheduled for next year!

And of course lets not forget the interesting comments of Buzz Aldrin in relation to a Monolith on Phobos!

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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 08:43 AM by v01i0

I am seeing nothing abnormal.

Why the Phobos has become suddenly so popular anyway? Is it because of Hoaxland- eh sorry, Hoagland?

-v

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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 08:52 AM by Outlawstar

Originally posted by v01i0
I am seeing nothing abnormal.

Why the Phobos has become suddenly so popular anyway? Is it because of Hoaxland- eh sorry, Hoagland?

-v

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Really? Like I was saying in the Original Post, if you see nothing abnormal, would you like to attempt an explanation of what the right angled shadow is, along with the protruding "spire"?

And the recent interest in Phobos is not relegated to discussion boards, it is a pretty confounding space rock in many ways, and very intriguing, as evidenced by the upcoming grunt mission.

And lets not forget Buzz Aldrins comment of their being a "Monolith" there.

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 08:56 AM by Son of Will

I don't believe I've ever seen Hoagland proven wrong on any issue. Many love saying as much, but generally these types don't understand what's being argued or apply an arrogant amount of confirmation bias when approaching his ideas. He's controversial but I've never seen him caught in a lie, or hoaxing something.

That said, sorry mate I see nothing in these photos.

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 09:04 AM by v01i0

reply to post by Outlawstar

Sorry, I am not a specialist in interpreting photographs. I see nothing abnormal there anyhow, but I am looking forward what others may see.

I am bit skeptic about anything artificial to be on Phobos, but my skeptism is of little relevance. However, I am all open to the possibilities that there may be something, but from the photos you provided, I really can't tell what in earth it could be.

I'm just a layman when it comes in issues like this, but I realize that there are people who would love to see an expedition made on Mars, paid by the taxpayee's money.

-v

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 09:06 AM by Son of Will

Oh I think I see what you're referring to. It's a very rectangle-shaped shadow. Unfortunately I'm not an expert in geology. I've heard that there are natural processes that can produce regular geometric patterns, like hexagrams, and I'm guessing that right angles can similarly be produced.

I don't think it's an above-ground structure, because of the fact that the sun is roughly behind the satellite. To make a shadow in that area, there would have to be a depression, not a protrusion. That's about the extent of my observations, I would love to guess what could cause it, but I can't think of anything.

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 09:16 AM by Outlawstar

Hmm, Im surprised this isint jumping out as unusual to people as much as it did to me, perhaps it is nothing, however the regularity of the shadow along with the spire like protrusion are still making me scratch my head, will look out for more comments!

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 09:18 AM by Outlawstar

Originally posted by Son of Will
Oh I think I see what you're referring to. It's a very rectangle-shaped shadow. Unfortunately I'm not an expert in geology. I've heard that there are natural processes that can produce regular geometric patterns, like hexagrams, and I'm guessing that right angles can similarly be produced.

I don't think it's an above-ground structure, because of the fact that the sun is roughly behind the satellite. To make a shadow in that area, there would have to be a depression, not a protrusion. That's about the extent of my observations, I would love to guess what could cause it, but I can't think of anything.

Id be interested in what kind of geological procecess on a moon such as this could cause such an unusual shape?

Also anyone who sees nothing of interest on Phobos full stop should really do an ATS search, there are extremely suggestive structures apparent on this satellite.

However perhaps this time around I have made something out of nothing, though the shadow is nothing like the shadows in the vicinity, hmm.

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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 09:30 AM by Outlawstar

On closer examination Im beginning to think there is perhaps nothing to this, it does seem to be the result of a depression, but Im still puzzled by the abrupt, straight line where the shadow ends, and the long shadow emerging from it. Any thoughts?

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 10:12 AM by ArMaP

I think the somewhat rectangular shadow is nothing special, it's easy to get a rectangular shadow from two non-rectangular features.

If you have a hill, for example, that has more or less the same shape as a valley beside the hill, the curvature of the hill will be nullified by the same curvature on the valley, so the shadow will look like a straight line.

As for the "antenna", it only needs a small hill on the feature that is projecting the shadow to make that long shadow, perspective will make it long stranger than it really is.

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 10:15 AM by ucalien

reply to post by Outlawstar

Buddy, do you mind to say me how I post big images as you did??? I mean, with roll bars. I can't find any tool to do that in the ATS threads. Is that a script?? Tnks.

reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 12:26 PM by spikey

reply to post by Outlawstar

Blimey, you've got good eyes.

I turned it around so the square areas are horizontal, and the anomalies really jumped out at me.

There appear to be two distinct square, trench like areas, with a connecting thin trench between the two.

In the larger of the two squares, there's what looks like a large satellite dish antenna, on a raised ramp running from the bottom edge to the centre.

Have you also noticed that there are two virtually (if not) identical white features, in the same place, respective to both squares? Mid way along the nearest side to the viewer? How can this be chance..how can two large square areas, have two same sized and shaped and coloured objects exactly in the middle of the nearest edge on each square?

Class find mate.

S&F.

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There is also another weird looking feature that looks like an 'organic X' for want of a better term. Zoom into the picture, and it's located just beyond the top left edge of the enhanced area, on the left of it. (I'm terrible with directions) if you cannot see it, i'll try to highlight it, but image editing isn't my thing.

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reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 05:04 AM by Outlawstar

Originally posted by ArMaP
I think the somewhat rectangular shadow is nothing special, it's easy to get a rectangular shadow from two non-rectangular features.

If you have a hill, for example, that has more or less the same shape as a valley beside the hill, the curvature of the hill will be nullified by the same curvature on the valley, so the shadow will look like a straight line.

As for the "antenna", it only needs a small hill on the feature that is projecting the shadow to make that long shadow, perspective will make it long stranger than it really is.

Perhaps you are right.
Perhaps not.

reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 05:06 AM by Outlawstar

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by Outlawstar

Blimey, you've got good eyes.

I turned it around so the square areas are horizontal, and the anomalies really jumped out at me.

There appear to be two distinct square, trench like areas, with a connecting thin trench between the two.

In the larger of the two squares, there's what looks like a large satellite dish antenna, on a raised ramp running from the bottom edge to the centre.

Have you also noticed that there are two virtually (if not) identical white features, in the same place, respective to both squares? Mid way along the nearest side to the viewer? How can this be chance..how can two large square areas, have two same sized and shaped and coloured objects exactly in the middle of the nearest edge on each square?

Class find mate.

S&F.

Edit to add;

There is also another weird looking feature that looks like an 'organic X' for want of a better term. Zoom into the picture, and it's located just beyond the top left edge of the enhanced area, on the left of it. (I'm terrible with directions) if you cannot see it, i'll try to highlight it, but image editing isn't my thing.

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Hmm, that is interesting, and perhaps more than coincidence, if you refer to my original post and follow the link to my previous Phobos Anomaly thread, you will, find an array of these white "things", in intruiging alignments. Perhaps they are nothing, perhaps they are not.

reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 10:30 AM by v01i0

reply to post by Son of Will

Originally posted by Son of Will
I don't believe I've ever seen Hoagland proven wrong on any issue.

Hmm, of course, anyone can have their own perceptions about character of Hoagland. The face on Mars - which is one of his claims - has been proven somewhat suspicous. Take a look of following hi-res picture of the "face". taken by Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter 2006:

Hosted by University of Arizona.

Maybe it is a face or maybe not, maybe it is just a hill. Haven't been there myself, so it is hard to tell. Go figure

Well sorry about that, as this thread is not about Hoagland precisely.

-v

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reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 10:36 AM by GW8UK

reply to post by v01i0

The face hoagland was talking about is a different one from the one your posting, Nasa clearly made that new one on the computer!

reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 11:01 AM by v01i0

reply to post by GW8UK

Different? What you mean? To me it looks to be about same area:

About NASA editing it? I cannot tell. I know that it might be hard to prove that, but if you are so sure, surely you can provide some kind of information to back up your claim?

-v

reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 04:18 PM by GW8UK

Originally posted by v01i0
About NASA editing it? I cannot tell. I know that it might be hard to prove that, but if you are so sure, surely you can provide some kind of information to back up your claim?

Im afraid if i disclosed the information you seek i will be exterminated

reply posted on 23-3-2010 @ 06:35 AM by hippomchippo

Originally posted by GW8UK

Originally posted by v01i0
About NASA editing it? I cannot tell. I know that it might be hard to prove that, but if you are so sure, surely you can provide some kind of information to back up your claim?

Im afraid if i disclosed the information you seek i will be exterminated

Oh wow, Lmao.

reply posted on 16-4-2010 @ 01:33 AM by oshdra

Great Find! IMHO (having seen hundreds of photos from different satellites), such rectangular shadow is a very interesting anomaly. Being in a body with so many of them:

Phobos thread

Enterprisse Mission-phobos II

I am feeling more Inclined to think that the anomaly you found is part of a complex structure.

I am also surprised that most people is so reluctant to see the things in front of their eyes. Truth it may be an optical illusion, but what is the probability to find such an amazing effect in a structure which already has so many other especial features?

I think any feature resembling a rectangle is quite worth looking at, because although is possible being a "natural" effect is also something very, very unlikely. What effect can create such a large rectangle???? If phobos is 15 miles long, the shadow is what? 1.5 miles width??

I insist: great find!