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The Jaime Maussan Metepec Creature Confirmed as a Hoax

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posted on Mar, 21 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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G'day karl 12

I wish I could translate this.....

It looks like they're even getting sick of him down there!



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not




posted on Mar, 21 2010 @ 10:54 PM
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Translation:

- Look, look, look! WTF Maussan. What do you think I am good for?

- I need more material, more of your presence on Earth. There is some time you do not appear here. Frankly, I need more evidence and witnesses.

- It's because we were in Mercury, the mercury girls are easy, are b*******. Not that the earthly girls isn't some cute b**** strawberries.

- I ask that you come back here more often. I'm always showing the same damn videos to Adal Ramones.

- And in your conferences I do not want to see the face of kids.

- Of course, that's good for my conferences. I'll be in Cholula on day 27, Mazathana on day 28, Monterrey on day 29 and days 30 and 31 in Cancun. Besides, you do not know, but I was so wrong with the wrist of Jonathan Reed.

- I told you this guy was fake!

- Well... now, here. I need pictures and videos of you.

- Wow, this is too little, open your hand my dear Maussan.

- Shhh, Jesus, good, here it is.

- Look how much you earn with the conference! You make the alien dance! If you want, I can say I am from Saturn or from WTF place you want. Well, now let's combine, record it, tomorrow at 12 noon, but in point! Because your guys arrive late, at 12 we will pass above the subway Nativitas.

- With those ships that looks like pozole pots?

- Exactly, and on thursday morning we will pass above the conference in López Obrador but it will be a lot expensive because we may have to take a break.

- Well... ok, but how much?

- Two million, for an hour and again when Big Brother ends.

- Hey, here, but nothing comes out, okay?

- What happen my Jimmy Neutron, we are decent people.

- LOL

- Well, now we're going to Ajusco and we will draw some f**** things on the grass.

- Some hieroglyphics?

- No, no, drawings with the face of Jo-Jo Jorge Falcon. What do you think?

- Good, good, good. Can you appear for a while there in the program Otro Rollo?

- No, but the guy of the interview, we want to take him.

- Do interviews on another planet?

- No, do genetic experiments on him... He collapses the chest and burns all.

- Well... it was a pleasure doing business with you my dear green son.

- What happened? There are rules. I deal with matters of Mars, not Cancun.

- Well, but with that outfit you do not seem from Mars, you seems from Pluto.

- Hey, you do not know how Fabiruchis is going in Big Brother?

- Well, I have not seen him... But look, I need to take some pictures, stay there behind the bush...

- What?

- ...that looks like a forest. Aim as if indicating something.

- Is it good?

- Now stay as if some people want to see you, because it's the evidence, it's evidence of your presence. Now pretend you're into towards your ship. Well...

- Okay, enough!

- Ok, thank alien... *alien disapear* Son, I felt like I was in a program of Bubble Odyssey... *looks to table* And the camera? F*** alien, where is the camera? *camera appear* Holy Mother! Well, thanks, Jesus, I hope they do not do with me the same they did with Bejaranazo.


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There may be some errors because I didn't understand some words and some of the jokes. Also, I first translated into portuguese and then into english. Hope you enjoy the read.


[edit on 21-3-2010 by One Step Beyond...]

Ops, seems like some codes didn't work, can some MOD fix it? I'll be glad.

[edit on 21-3-2010 by One Step Beyond...]

[edit on 21-3-2010 by One Step Beyond...]



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 12:53 AM
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I really don't know where to place Mr. Maussan either if he a conman or a very gullible person.. I'm going with the former and even after all these hoaxes people still listen to what he has to say.

Boggles the mind.. really.

[edit on 11/23/2009 by diamount]



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by diamount
I really don't know where to place Mr. Maussan either if he a conman or a very gullible person.. I'm going with the former and even after all these hoaxes people still listen to what he has to say.


G'day diamont

I agree completely.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 02:50 AM
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if he is not a hoaxer - he is too freaking stupid to be left unsupervised



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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It's a shame these leeches can't be brought up on charges of some kind for perpetrating a hoax. I can guarantee if they could be, there would be whole lot less of people like Greer and Maussan contaminating the UFO field of research as a whole.



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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G'day One Step Beyond

Thank you for your translation efforts


I hope this parody indicates it's the beginning of the end for Maussan's shenanigans......

.....but I'll bet it's not!

If you get time, I'd love to get some indication of what that Maussan penguin thing was all about.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
It's a shame these leeches can't be brought up on charges of some kind for perpetrating a hoax. I can guarantee if they could be, there would be whole lot less of people like Greer and Maussan contaminating the UFO field of research as a whole.


G'day Jocko Flocko

It's like selling fake goods & ripping people off that way.....it's just no good.

Did you see the penguin vid


Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 03:37 AM
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I was expecting more people to come in and defend Maussan. It appears this hasn't happened and this is the most pleasant surprise. It seems that the Aliens & UFO's Board is slowly growing up.. and growing tired of clowns such as Maussan.

Kudos Members!

IRM


[edit on 22/3/10 by InfaRedMan]



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 06:08 AM
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Defend or confirm Jaime Maussan is Hoaxing. Members read and move on ya ya I knew that

I wasn't even going to post no need. I think a lot of people know of Maussan 's findings are bizarre even first time viewers have better sense.


Zelong.



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 06:45 AM
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good find Maybe...maybe not
it's always good to have some facts to show that these statements aren't hearsay. The mentioning of a Forum post I thought I would look for it. So I followed your link.

More importantly, Urso Ruíz apparently confessed in an Internet forum he indeed hoaxed the creature, which is indeed just a squirrel-monkey:
“It’s just the corpse of a skinned squirrel-monkey. I took its ears out and involved it with all the hair and fluids of all animals I could find, then I dried it. All samples they take of it will come out as being of different animals.”


Well I've found the actual post and it doesn't tran slate very well I also found what maybe is the full story URSO MORENO RUÍZ and translated This is before URSO MORENO RUÍZ did his Taxidermy miss match


The story is still incomplete, and many questions remain, but here is what I have so far:
Sometime around May 11, 2007, a wealthy Mexican rancher named Marao Lopez (* )f ound this creature, less than one foot tall, in a steel trap.The property was in Metepec, a suburb of Toluca, the state capital of State in Mexico.

There was no vast wilderness or jungle nearby, making the find even stranger. The creature was alive, shrieking and scared. A small group of men took it back to the ranch. They marveled over it and took many photographs. The creature was found around 5pm in the evening, and (for reasons not yet made clear) the ranchers decided to kill and preserve it the morning of the third day, approx 36 hours later. They dunked it in water for a few minutes, but it emerged alive, still screaming. still screaming.
They dunked it a second time--longer, but it again regained consciousness. They dunked it a They dunked it a third time, for many hours, and it finally drowned. It's ability to survive so long
underwater has made many feel it was amphibious. Within days, word about the strange creature had gotten to Jaime.As it turns out, one of the two best witnesses who observed the creature alive was
a man Jaime knew well and trusted. In fact, James had known the man since the man was a child.





Zelong.

[edit on 22/3/10 by Zelong]



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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Hello kindred,


Enthusiasm isn't excuse for anything, neither passion for that matter.

I might be enthusiastic regarding surgery, but that doesn't mean that I'm capable of operating on someone in safety without causing even more injuries.

If he is unable to filter the information that he receives, and ignorant regarding basic knowledge about things like aviation or even photography, he should just shut up, pack his bags and let what he loves (supposing he has good intentions) being taken care by those who can, at least, make more good than bad...

Maussan has done NOTHING but putting forward a campaign that constantly hurts Ufology. To the point that some people actually believe he is doing it on purpose to bring down Ufology (I wouldn't go that far though).

But that is if you think good things about him (that he is just enthusiastic about ufology).

In all true honesty, to me, he is nothing but more than a desperate person trying to take profit from EVERY SINGLE UFO case out there. Which makes him rich, because he "has a lot of material", but at the same time, brings him to the ground.

The problem is, that many people in his country don't even know places like ATS where Maussan is brought down to his knees and faces with reality. Although that is changing, he still has a lot of power in South America.

Which, to me, is sad.

Ufology should be able to "ban" people from it's community, and Maussan should be one of the first ones to go.

[edit on 22/3/10 by Tifozi]



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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Translation:

- Beyond that, we have here another guest in the office that is Cesar.

- Thanks Jaime, this happened on December 29 last year...

- 22, no?

- ...22, I opened my office, and on this particular tree, there were white herons, it looked like a christmas tree. 4 years ago, passed a dark being (?). So, since this time the birds never showed up again. When I opened my office at 10 am I see the pine and the bird standing there!

- It is a penguin!


- Seems to be a penguin...

- Then, we analyzed the fins, which would be the wings that act as fins. You see that this result is unusual because it is a penguin standing on the edge of a pine tree.

- And this bird seemed lost, disoriented, barely knew where he was. And over there in the middle of the left part of the Penguin you see a white object that extends to the right. And adjusted the zoom several times to get the best focus, I saw that it was standing there, but I didn't saw how it happened.

- Incredible, no? So, excuse the non-believers and who do not see, but the penguin is sitting, not like other birds, it's sitting like a penguin sits, on the tip of the pine tree, this is not right.

- Exactly, the tip of the pine tree bends with the weight of the bird, and in the last take, the tail of the penguin who was still, then moves.

- Well... this is one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life. The penguins do not fly...

- No.

- ... and secondly, its natural habitat is in the Southern Hemisphere, Antarctica, in Tierra del Fuego, Argentina. So, with these regions...

- How it got there? Because of these conditions... and more importantly, how did you climb so high?

- This puzzled me, it scared me, because if you or I were standing there knowing that birds don't flies, I would be scared to death as if I were to fall at any time, no?

- Exactly, we can die.

- Here we see the tail...

- Yes, you can see clearly how... and because of the distance and things around, we can clearly see the animal moving its head, right? And in the final take, I repeat, it seems like it moves its tail.

- Who else besides you saw?

- My brothers, my father and my mother. And everyone agrees that a penguin ... some of my patients as well, my neighbors, friends and the first impression everyone has is that it's a penguin!

- When my secretary told me today that someone recorded a penguin that climbed the tree... (demon voice) - What did I tell you...

- LOL

- ... do not try to please me, please! And then she showed me this video with a penguin on top of the pine and I said: No way!


- Awesome.

- No? And I sent for Turle (?) and told him that Caeminote (?) would be surprised, he said in the e-mail, "Remarkably, this will give a headache to all biologists specializing in wildlife because they have to explain what a penguin is doing on top of a pine tree in the center of the Mexican Republic..." What happened to this animal?

- I don't know. I don't know if he flew, I don't know if he disappeared, because...

- Apparently is what happened.

- ... I was changing the focus of the camera and at such a time the bird disappeared, said to my father, I repeat, that the bird flew.

- It had flown?

- Yes, yes had flown.

- Or simply disappeared.

- I don't know, so I bring you the material, you who are experts...



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It may have more erros than the other but at least now we can understand the essence of their nonsense conversation.



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 03:24 PM
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I don't think Jaime Maussan is a hoaxer. I just think it's a case of his enthusiasm for uncovering the truth getting in the way of common sense and good reasoning


That and his unwillingness to do even basic research on something, before jumping the gun... I remember Jaime's "UFO fleets" (aka balloon releases) all too well...



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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This also puts into question the DNA testers on Monster Quest who claimed it was an unknown. Maussan's name has never been a good one in ufology, and this evidence puts the final nail in his coffin. I apologize if I ever used him or this creature as evidence of an unknown.

Thank you for this post, as it teaches us all to remain diligent.



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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G'day One Step Beyond

Well......what a good guy you are......thanks for all that hard work


I think they've finally lost the plot.

I have to wonder what the advertisers must think when they see that total sort of rubbish on his show.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok

I don't think Jaime Maussan is a hoaxer. I just think it's a case of his enthusiasm for uncovering the truth getting in the way of common sense and good reasoning


That and his unwillingness to do even basic research on something, before jumping the gun... I remember Jaime's "UFO fleets" (aka balloon releases) all too well...


G'day Gazrock

It might have started & then developed like that, but I think he's addicted to the "fame & fortune" & in recent years he's been intentionally hoaxing people.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by kidflash2008
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This also puts into question the DNA testers on Monster Quest who claimed it was an unknown. Maussan's name has never been a good one in ufology, and this evidence puts the final nail in his coffin. I apologize if I ever used him or this creature as evidence of an unknown.

Thank you for this post, as it teaches us all to remain diligent.



G'day kidflash2008

Thank you for your kind & positive words


Regarding the guys who did the Monster Quest DNA tests, one has to wonder if something "funny" has gone on there.....

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by InfaRedMan
Great find Maybe.. Maybe Not!

If Maussan's name is attached to it, you can be guaranteed it's a hoax! Did we ever think any differently? LOL!

No chance !

I remember meeting Maussan at a UFO Mag conference
here in the UK many moons ago when Graham Birdsall was alive,
and tbh he was a very different person back then I have no doubt,
I`m not saying he`s been got at by the PTB, maybe fed disinfo and
ridiculed along the way,but he was not as
accepting of everything and anything as he is now,and did present some
interesting footage and witness testaments....unfortunately he seems
to be taken in by any old garbage these days and now resides on literally another planet when it comes to the reality of this subject!



posted on Mar, 22 2010 @ 10:07 PM
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LOL! I love how the Penguin just miraculously disappears! That way, they don't have to show us unbroken footage of them getting it down from the tree and proving that the whole 'penguin in the tree' scenario was real.

Is this a piss-take or what? I mean, no one in their right mind would present this seriously and expect intelligent people to accept it as real.

Jokers or Morons? You Decide!

IRM



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