Nibiru Planet X Discussed in India's Parliament, page 2
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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 06:39 AM by Wide Awake R U
Before i go and count out any possibility of a planet or planets eventual close crossing with Earth, Just imagine what it would take to affect earth physically. hubblesite.org... has thousands of pictures that not are not only awe inspiring, but look quite deadly if were to come anywhere near our solar system. I have learned that *anything* is possible. 500 years ago, the thought of a person flying was ridiculous, yet today we have people lined up in airports to board these "giant birds" that carry us along to our destination. I find the topic of Nibiru to be quite fascinating because of the history and imagination behind it. just because something seems unlikely does not mean it has not already happened in our Universe and just because it happened once does not mean it wont happen again!
Nibiru translates to "the crossing" or "point of transition" and was thought to be the highest point of the eliptic. Ancient Babylonians spoke about it and used it in reference to something so it did and does exist. what they meant by Niburu now can be a different thread by itself. As the story of Jesus of Nazareth ( Jesus the man ) and Jesus Christ (The Religious Icon) differ, they both are meant to open the mind, and we can really say is "who the heck knows" and make our own history!
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reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 09:21 AM by pasttheclouds
the ancient texts talk about spiritual things,
just as the bible does.

Nibiru is a spiritual state,
just as planets are reflections of those spiritual
states and personalities in them.

If the calenders were made to follow the moon and the sun,
and the planets and the stars, they were made to reflect the
logical state of god, which is the spiritual meaning of every symbol.
Truth is logical, so humanity has its pre-destined path,
and choice included in between the borders of evolution,
that evolution is the course of the heavens,
and are set by major messengers... or points of break-through
in wisdom.

The sun is ressurection (new jerusalem= father written on its walls, stones), the moon is the sons.( = Michael)
Mercury the messenger etc etc...(= Gabriel)

stars are the messengers = angels
humanity followed the messengers on their path in the heavens
(in evolution we followed the stars)
Evolution was set by persons messeging a part of the truth,
closing in on truth, einstein, socrates, the religious messengers etc..
they together prepared the way to truth, and truth is god;
truth in its highest level is alive and one, not dependent
on another truth, except what is in himself.
Evolution went forth on negative-positive (regret - understanding/forgiveness)
and all roads will come together in truth.

It is the moon and the sun that will be eclipsed,
as predicted. Is it literal ? it is the state
that they represent; and people will not understand
that state... christ (oneness) will be coming
in the clouds (fog = confusion)

The stars of heaven, let him [Nibiru] set their course;
let him shepherd all the gods like sheep.

The son of man (a name that symbolises all sons) symbol is equal to it.


[edit on 21-3-2010 by pasttheclouds]


reply posted on 21-3-2010 @ 07:00 PM by spinalremain
Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
reply to
post by spinalremain



I agree the Sun is a joke, but just because NASA says it isnt real doesnt mean they are telling the truth either...


Perhaps. I wouldn't know if NASA were being totally honest to the public 100 percent of the time. I think we can both, if not all agree though, that NASA is more credible than The Sun.

When we are dealing with something as profound as an astronomical or celestial body headed for Earth, we have to use our heads here. Someone outside NASA would have detected it by now. Seriously.


reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 09:01 AM by ENKIJI
Nibiru is already here in the solar system
Its a hollowed out planet and a mothership of the annunaki

Here's more info about Nibiruan gods

www.galacticroundtable.com...

THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.
IF U MAKE COMPARISONS ON THEIR LIFE, CHARACTERISTICS & RELATIONSHIPS, U WILL FIND INCREDIBLE SIMILARITIES !!!

THE SAME CREATOR GODS PRESENTED THEMSELVES IN DIFFERENT CULTURES WITH DIFFERENT NAMES.

NIBIRUAN / SUMERIAN GODS = HINDU GODS = GREEK GODS AND SOME VATICAN, BUDDHIST, JEWISH AND SOUTH AMERICAN GODS AS WELL !!!

SEKHMET = DURGA = ARTEMIS = MUT = ATHENA = WHITE JAGUAR LADY = WHITE BUFFALO CALF WOMAN = VAISHNO DEVI

ALCYONE = SATYANARAYANA = APOLLO = PTAH = VISHNU = RAMA
AMUN RA = KRISHNA

ANAT = ERESHKIGAL = KALI = BLACK MADONNA = BLACK TARA

ASTARTE = PARVATI = WHITE TARA = MADONNA = SHEKINAH = UMA = NAMMA
MAIA = SATI = DAKSHAYANI = DAMKINA = GODDESS OF THE MOUNTAINS

ENKI = SHIVA= HOLY SPIRIT = ZEUS = CHAKRASAMVARA = AVALOKITESHWARA = CHENREZIG = LUCIFER = EA = ADONAI = HADAD = BA'AL = RUDRA = KAAL BHAIRAVA

AN = ANU = PARA BRAHMA = YAHVEH = ALLAH

THE GREAT RA = AMEN RA = PRAKASH BRAHMA = HIGHER ASPECT OF YAHVEH = FATHER OF THE GODS

ANSAR = ABZU = ABBA = APSU = KASHYAPA = ADITYA = SURYA = SUN GOD = SHAMASH = DUAS PITA = SATYAVAT MANU = SWAYAMBHU = VYWAMUS
DHARMA DEV = YAMA

INDRA = PAN = VAJRAPANI

GAIA = ADITI = BHU = BHOOMI DEVI = KOUMUDHI = KAMADHENU = NINHURSAG = KI = URAS = EARTH GODDESS

ENLIL = GARBHODAKASAYANI = JEHOVAH

NINLIL = LAKSHMI = GODDESS OF GRAIN

MOON GOD = CHANDRA DEV = NANNA

INANNA = LILITH = SELENE = MOHINI

DUMUZI = ADAMU = ADAM = DAMU

EVE = KHEBA = NINTI

NERGAL = NARAKASURA

TIAMAT = TARAKA

TYPHON = PULOMAN

THOTH = GANESHA = HERMES

MARDUK = MURUGAN = KARTHIKEYA = NIMROD = MARS

HORUS = OSIRIUS = SANAT KUMARA = EROS = DIONYSUS = ANCIENT OF DAYS = TAMMUZ = MIN = KAMDEV = PRADYUMNA

ISIS = MARY = MARIAMMA = KOUMARI = VENUS = APHRODITE = ISHTAR = SEMIRAMIS = HATHOR = MAYAVATI = KANYAKUMARI = TRIPURA SUNDARI = RATI = 16 YEAR OLD GODDESS

JESUS = SANANDA KUMARA

MARY MAGDALENE = LADY NADA

HADES = SHANI = SATAN = WRATHFUL TIBETAN DEITY

7 ARCHANGELS = 7 SAPTARISHIS = COUNCIL OF SEVEN

ATLAS = HIMAVAN = DAKSHA = EL

PLEIONE = MENAKA

APEP = KALASURA

7 PLAIEDES' SISTERS = 7 KRITTIKAS = 7 SAPTA MATRIKAS

PARASURAM = GILGAMESH; NOAH = VIVASVAT MANU; NOAH'S ARC = MALAYAN HILLS.

WILD COW GODDESS = NINSUN = NININSINA = RENUKA

HUMBABA = TRISHANKU = KALMASHAPADA

SARASWATI = SESHAT

HERACLES = HERCULES = ARJUNA

ENOCH = METATRON

HERA = INDRANI

AURORA = USHA

EOS = SAVITA

VARUNA = POSEIDON

MITHRA = ZOROASTRA

TVASTRI = HAPHAESTOS = BUNENE

HOLY GRAIL = AMRITAM = SOMA = LIFE ELIXIR = NECTAR OF IMMORTALITY


THE LIST IS ENDLESS!

THE NIBIRUAN GODS ( NIBIRU = NEBADON = VULCAN = PLANET X = WORMWOOD FROM SIRIUS B ) HAD THEIR BASES EVERYWHERE.

ALL THE RELIGIONS HAVE THE SAME SOURCE !
( BIBLE -> BY-BAL -> BY BA'AL( ENKI))
( QURAN -> QUR-AN / ANU )

MANY OF THE COMPARED CHARACTERS/ INCIDENTS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED AT ONE PLACE AND THEN IMPLANTED INTO ANOTHER CULTURE FOR THEIR BENEFIT.


reply posted on 28-3-2010 @ 12:17 AM by mclinking
reply to post by Rockstrongo37



Yes, the Sun is a joke. But even a joke can tell the truth, unwittingly that is.

mclinking


reply posted on 6-4-2010 @ 09:25 PM by DrJay1975
Originally posted by ucalien
reply to
post by Phage




Nibiru is not even hypothetical. It was invented by Sitchin and is supposed to have 3,600 year orbit which brings it into the inner Solar system. The idea that a brown dwarf could have such an orbit is absurd.


So, has spoken God!!!

Sitchin hasn't invented Nibiru. It was REPORTED by the Sumerians. In lots of steles of Babylonian art, Nibiru is depicted as a winged disk. And not only the Sumerians reported the terrifying apparition of Nibiru in the skies, many other ancient civilizations. They put many names... Baal star, Absyntho, Marduk, "The Abomination of Desolation", spoken by prophet Daniel... I really doubt anyone here in ATS is an expert in ancient Mesopotamian languages and is capable to translate cuneiform tablets, as Zecharia Sitchin. Absurd is the idea that a linguist expert, enable to translate Sumerian, Acadian, ancient Egyptian, ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, Sanskrit and dozens of others dialects of Mesopotamian civilizations, would spend 40 years of his life, studying and researching, to after all, invent a fake planet, brown dwarf, whatever it is.


[grammar edit on 21-3-2010 by ucalien]

[edit on 21-3-2010 by ucalien]


The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. Zecharia Sitchin, who writes fiction about the ancient Mesopotamian civilization of Sumer, claimed in several books (e.g., The Twelfth Planet, published in 1976) that he has found and translated Sumerian documents that identify the planet Nibiru, orbiting the Sun every 3600 years. These Sumerian fables include stories of “ancient astronauts” visiting Earth from a civilization of aliens called the Anunnaki. Then Nancy Lieder, a self-declared psychic who claims she is channeling aliens, wrote on her website Zetatalk that the inhabitants of a fictional planet around the star Zeta Reticuli warned her that the Earth was in danger from Planet X or Nibiru. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Only recently have these two fables been linked to the end of the Mayan long-count at the winter solstice in 2012 – hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.

Nibiru is a name in Babylonian astrology sometimes associated with the god Marduk. Nibiru appears as a minor character in the Babylonian creation poem Enuma Elish as recorded in the library of Assurbanipal, King of Assyria (668-627 BCE). Sumer flourished much earlier, from about the 23rd century to the 17th century BCE. The claims that Nibiru is a planet and was known to the Sumerians are contradicted by scholars who (unlike Zecharia Sitchin) study and translate the written records of ancient Mesopotamia. Sumer was indeed a great civilization, important for the development of agriculture, water management, urban life, and especially writing. However, they left very few records dealing with astronomy. Certainly they did not know about the existence of Uranus, Neptune or Pluto. They also had no understanding that the planets orbited the Sun, an idea that first developed in ancient Greece two millennia after the end of Sumer. Claims that Sumerians had a sophisticated astronomy, or that they even had a god named Nibiru, are the product of Sitchin’s imagination.


reply posted on 6-4-2010 @ 09:27 PM by DrJay1975
And on the 80s discovery with IRAS, no way.

IRAS (the NASA Infrared Astronomy Satellite, which carried out a sky survey for 10 months in 1983) discovered many infrared sources, but none of them was Nibiru or Planet X or any other objects in the outer solar system. There is a good discussion from Caltech to be found at (spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tchester/iras/no_tenth_planet_yet.html). Briefly, IRAS cataloged 350,000 infrared sources, and initially many of these sources were unidentified (which was the point, of course, of making such a survey). All of these observations have been followed up by subsequent studies with more powerful instruments both on the ground and in space. The rumor about a “tenth planet” erupted in 1984 after a scientific paper was published in Astrophysical Journal Letters titled “Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey”, which discussed several infrared sources with “no counterparts”. But these “mystery objects” were subsequently found to be distant galaxies (except one, which was a wisp of “infrared cirrus”), as published in 1987. No IRAS source has ever turned out to be a planet. A good discussion of this whole issue is to be found on Phil Plait’s website (www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/science.html#iras). The bottom line is that Nibiru is a myth, with no basis in fact. To an astronomer, persistent claims about a planet that is “nearby” but “invisible” are just plain silly.



reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 01:41 PM by stereologist
reply to post by L.HAMILTON



The article mentions the possibility of an object 25,000AU from earth. The original scientific publication gave a size of 1 to 4 Jupiters. That's too small to be a brown dwarf. The probability of this distant object was slightly above a statistical fluke.

The IRAS satellite did not detect a planet in 1983. It detected a new type of galaxy far, far away.


reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 01:43 PM by stereologist
reply to post by gypsy heart



If an object were inside of the orbits of say Saturn, then it would reflect enough light for the object to be visible to the naked eye. No telescope needed.


reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 01:49 PM by stereologist
reply to post by Wide Awake R U



We can and have looked at the movements of the known planets. That tells us where other things might be in our solar system. It definitely tells us that no planet is out there with a 3600 year orbit. Astronomers have scanned the sky down to objects so dim that we know that planets cannot be within hundreds of AU of the sun.


reply posted on 6-5-2010 @ 04:43 PM by dragnet53
Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
Members of Parliament have asked the Government of India about " whether it is a fact that planet X is heading towards Earth anytime after 2010 .....
www.indianexpress.com... Only to be answered that " There is no factual basis for this question ". An answer that is factual but not completely. All Governments of the Earth know about Planet X , Nibiru, or Nemesis which is a brown dwarf that was detected by NASA's infared imaging satellite I.R.A.S in the 80's. is real . Problem is that they can't track it without infared capabilities in orbit. Just recently published by the UK SUN mentions this " invisible " star that is circling the sun and is disturbing objects in the Oort Cloud......www.thesun.co.uk...


But most of the India government believes in the Vedas. Hmmmmm....
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