Royal Navy sends nuclear sub with cruise missiles to Falkland Islands, page 1
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Topic started on 20-3-2010 @ 04:01 PM by Ulala
HMS Sceptre, a Swiftsure Class SSN attack submarine, is being sent from station off Africa to the cold waters of the South Atlantic in an effort to dissuade the Argentinians from taking military action in the tense standoff over oil rights in the seas around the disputed Falkland Islands.


HMS Sceptre at anchor

For an older submarine, she sure packs a punch. She's equipped with the heavy, high speed Spearfish torpedo, the Harpoon anti ship missile and (most significantly) with the Tomahawk cruise missile.

So in one stroke the RN will be able to attack Argentinian subs, warships and targets on the Argentinian mainland too.

The UK Royal Navy has deployed the nuclear-powered attack submarine, HMS Sceptre, to the Falkland Islands in an effort to enhance security levels in the region.

The Swiftsure Class submarine will join the Portsmouth ships HMS York and HMS Scott, which are already on routine patrol in the region, according to portsmouth.co.uk.

During the deployment, HMS Sceptre will monitor the conservation zone waters surrounding the Falkland islands, where drilling is under way.

The deployment was made necessary as UK firm Desire Petroleum has struck oil.

The 82.9m-long, 9.8m-wide vessel has a displacement of 4,500t.

The submarine can accommodate around 100 personnel and cruise at a speed in excess of 30kt.

Naval Technology News

Today it was reported a Royal Navy attack submarine has been sent to the Falklands to boost security amid mounting speculation oil has been discovered.
The Ministry of Defence has refused to confirm the sub's presence there, saying it does not comment on submarine operations.
HMS Sceptre, a Swiftsure-class nuclear powered submarine, is said to have been sent from southern Africa to make Argentina think twice about laying serious claims to the Islands.
It is the oldest seagoing vessel in the Royal Navy.

Daily Mail
An article ran today in the British newspaper "The Sun" states that a nuclear sub was sent by London to the Malvinas Islands last month after soaring rumors that Desire Petroleum had struck oil around them, hoping to "dampen Argentine ambitions" of sovereignty.

According to the paper the order to send the HMS Sceptre - a 5.000-tonne Swiftsure-class nuclear-powered submarine - was given by "top brass" last month after speculation that British firm Desire Petroleum had struck oil surfaced, and was expected to "boost security" in the area.

Buenos Aires Herald

Perhaps the deployment of this vessel and other Royal Navy warships might now dissuade the Argentinians from interfering militarily with the activities of Desire Petroleum ?


A neat photomontage of Swiftsure class submarines (best with volume off !)


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 07:01 PM by Misoir
reply to post by fritz


Obviously that was an attack against me because I'm an American, so I'll bite.

I was always opposed to the war, I even oppose the war in Afghanistan. We shouldn't have foreign military bases, we shouldn't even have a military. It should just be the national guard. We should not have NATO, UN, WHO, WTO or any other external organization involved in our country at all.

You can attack Americans all you want, I don't mind. Just don't put me in the same category of your stereotyping.

Edit to add: I am not saying Great Britain should not defend the Falkland Islands, that's like America defending Hawaii or Guam. You have that right and no other country should be involved, just don't attack them unless they attack you, that's all I'm saying.

[edit on 3/20/10 by Misoir]


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 09:18 PM by dashar
a bit of history if true must be lots of oil to threaten this.

www.guardian.co.uk...

[edit on 3/20/2010 by dashar]



reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 06:01 PM by BRITWARRIOR
Originally posted by Kram09
The UK is broke and can't even deal with Afghanistan.

How exactly do you expect them to deal with Argentina?




Where do you live?

I wouldn't get to court up in that mis-info thats utter rubbish, that oil should pay back some debt at least, and the UK still has AAA credit ratings, which country is not in debt right now tho? you think argentina can faulk out for one but we can't where do you find your logic???

While we are on the subject of oil...

News just in, they found 7 new oil fields could be up to 350 billion barrels of black gold discoverd on the coast of dorset, the biggest on shore oil discovery since 1972 (in the UK) to add to the 60 billion barrels.

And back on to why they won't push there boats out to sea,

To be honest if the argy's are thinking about doing anything, then really, now is the time to do so, before the new Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers are built in a few years time, work has already begun on the construction,









Oh And!!! The Astute class currently doing sea trials

The Astute class will progressively replace the Swiftsure and Trafalgar classes from 2011.

Displacing 7,400 tonnes and measuring 97 metres from bow to propulsor, Astute is significantly larger than the Swiftsure and Trafalgar class submarines that she will replace but requires fewer crew to operate her due to the advanced technology and automated systems on board.

When she becomes operational on completion of Sea Trials she will be capable of circumnavigate the globe without surfacing and with the advance of nuclear technology she will never need refuelling.

Astute is designed to fulfil a range of key strategic and tactical roles including anti-ship and anti-submarine operations, surveillance and intelligence gathering and support for land forces.

"Astute will be a quantum leap in capability from the Trafalgar class and all involved can be justifiably proud”.






Nothing will happen we can all hope!


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 06:17 PM by stumason
reply to post by BRITWARRIOR


Just to add, the Astute is that advanced that USN observers who have been allowed to check her out have been gobsmacked at the technology that is that boat. Until a new class of US submarine is launched, she is apparently the most advanced submarine on the planet.

So if a Swiftsure is enough to make the Argies play nice, then an Astute is going to make them have kittens.
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