A Light deamplifier to see the higher dimensions., page 1
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reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 03:37 PM by EnlightenUp
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When I had my digital dental X-rays done recently, the idea seemed to work pretty well.

But, I think OP is confusing seeing electromagetic radiation out of the visible range with the "frequency" nomenclature applied to metaphysical cosmologies, which refers to the mental "tuning in" of higher or lower realms, that relative to us, are nonphysical. I know of no such device capable of performing those sorts of frequency transpositions, besides our own brains.

Much like transposing a high and delicate melody into the bass range, any such thing other than direct and intended experience will leave it a flat, dull, incomprehensible and crude facsimile of the original.




reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 03:47 PM by Phage
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Sort of like what my ears do as of the past few years? Removing the sibilant highs and rumbling lows? Jimi just doesn't sound the same anymore.

But the OP specifically mentioned light, EMF, and radio. Forms of electromagnetic radiation. The answer is yes, all electromagnetic radiation can be made "visible" through electronic means.



reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 04:03 PM by EnlightenUp
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True, the OP specifically mentioned EM radiation. However, I'm unclear of why. Is the OP confused on the concepts between the meta- and the physical or am I just confused by the presentation and mixing of these ideas. Personally, whatever the true reality is to that stuff, I don't believe it has a thing to do with physical photons in a way that light amplification (deamplificaion being -1 < gain < 1) or frequency transposition will yield positive and definitive results.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 04:43 PM by crazyinthemiddle
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I could never figure that out either. All I have read of the higher dimensional/new age stuff refers to "higher vibrational energy." It sure sounds to me like EM radiation, but has to be a methaphor I would think. Of course, I wonder how much real science weighs into it at all.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 05:06 PM by EnlightenUp
Originally posted by crazyinthemiddle
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I could never figure that out either. All I have read of the higher dimensional/new age stuff refers to "higher vibrational energy." It sure sounds to me like EM radiation, but has to be a methaphor I would think. Of course, I wonder how much real science weighs into it at all.


The best I can say about it, based upon some neat little transcendental personal experiences, is that science in some form or another will weigh into it eventually. However, yes the language is largely metaphorical, allegorical even, and then later profaned into something literal by partly those who experienced flashes of insight beyond current human progress with its insufficient foundations for tying it into a truely coherent framework, and for those too hungry for answers rather than understanding.

One does not really grasp these metaphors properly until the experience has been experienced. The lofty, detached and surreal-sounding language then suddenly makes sense. You and others who've shared the experience with enough commonality readily know what is meant and can speak to each other while finding it nearly impossible to relate it properly to those who haven't. I didn't quite believe it at first. I thought, well, yeah, "you get it by reasoning it out." or something to that effect. I quickly found I was misguided in any such notions.

I mean, it's no big deal. One must have the interest in going there. Don't take yourself too seriously because of it either.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 05:16 PM by crazyinthemiddle
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I completely believe and have experienced those moments of insight, both in and out of meditation, but I believe the explanations are sketchy at best. Of course, this most likely equates to most who believe/experience it to be uninitiated in the scientific community. This leads to accusations, debunking, name calling etc.

I truly believe that there is something going on "behind the scenes." What or how I don't know and I know that science can't explain it. Not yet anyway.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 05:41 PM by EnlightenUp
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THAT, I understand and I feel the frustration at times. There is a huge gap of intermediate knowledge to bridge it, despite some things being quite simple in nature. A well-worn and imperfect analogy is trying to describe red to one who's never experienced it.

I do pretty well in understanding scientific concepts and do well in those subjects. I find common mistakes are to declare science as ignorant, arrogant, invalid and to try to discard well-established theory just to save a belief in its entirety from the mental dumpster, acquired from the incomplete mental residue of a momentary glimpse. Actually, it works the other way as well, the materialist rejecting the presently mystical and esoteric out of hand.
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