UFO filmed over Lake - Genova, Italy, 2010. , page 1
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reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:14 PM by Phage



reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:20 PM by karl 12
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So he's re-edited some footage and therefore he's a hoaxer?

Madmod72 reverses the video to have you believe the object moves away from then back toward the external tank of the shuttle. He also shows it in extremely slow motion. In reality, it only moves backward then curves away very (very) quickly and disappears, perhaps when it hits the blast from the main engines.

Madmod72's edits should be considered hoaxing.



Could you actualy address the footage and explain how you think it has been hoaxed?

Cheers.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:26 PM by Phage
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He edited the original NASA video in an intentionally deceptive manner (that is probably why it was removed).

The "Italian" video looks like a typical interior reflection on a window "UFO".


Once a hoaxer, always a hoaxer.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:40 PM by karl 12
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So you've labelled him a hoaxer because he re-edited some footage (to my mind your first post insinuated he was completely fabricating UFO videos) - good job I read your opinions on the other thread.

As for the reflection on the window theory, thanks for sharing your thoughts but it doesn't look that way to me - the object appears to be moving quite fast around the 0:50 mark and at 3:10 there appears to be another object underneath.

Cheers.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:52 PM by karl 12
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That looks to be CGI to me -can we just stick to the original footage and your reflection theory?

I could be wrong but at 2:21 there also appears to be another object filmed near the shore.

Cheers.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:58 PM by Phage
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It isn't CGI and it is relevant to the video in the OP. It's an interior reflection on a window.

www.denverpost.com...


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reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 02:10 PM by franspeakfree
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Erm, Karl12 your a subject matter expert this video does not give us anything new, I have been following your posts and threads and I would expect more from you than this. Disappointing really.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 02:16 PM by karl 12
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Franspeakfree -your entitled to your opinion mate but I do think this footage is quite interesting and that the object is not a reflection on a window.

Cheers.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 02:26 PM by weedwhacker
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I saw the Sun's reflection (either it's early morning or evening) on a building or other structure built on the side of the hill.

For what it's worth, at one point I thought I spotted Nessie!!

Really....any time we get something like this, from a known hoaxter, and he/she doesn't have the decency to hold the camera steady, then adds the overly dramatic music soundtrack? Pffft.


Too bad so many who watch that garbage on YT will find it credible.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 02:38 PM by SaturnFX
Originally posted by karl 12
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Madmod...pfft..
I would suggest cancelling his subscription. his videos are 95% entertainment nonsense. he really needs to spend his time focusing in on a different area verses destroying this area.



SaturnFX - do you think this footage is CGI?

Cheers.


Ultimately, if a person is caught a single time purposefully hoaxing something, then he should always be ignored.
His posts are ego driven nonsense that is in my mind, trying to discredit the UFO movement into little more than a cool topic to be creative on.

Theres tons of decent subscriptions out there..luckymauro tries to get good videos (some hit, some miss)...watching his videos are far more entertaining and possible than almost anything ole 72 puts out...and without the concern of CG nonsense.

-add: in all honesty, finding something to be CG is almost impossible now adays...the question now is, is it bad CG or well done CG. This is why source matters now moreso than what your seeing. You can have a tiny pinprick of light amid stars that does something barely uninteresting and that could be "the real deal" that is ignored..meanwhile, that absurdly convincing independence day looking craft moving over a desert with people screaming and running and shadows perfectly lined up is simply CG...
This is no longer 1987...average hobbiest CGers on their home computer can make some amazing work and with a bit of creativy and intellect...can pull off things that seem every bit as real as raw footage.

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reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 04:38 PM by internos
Originally posted by franspeakfree
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post by karl 12



Erm, Karl12 your a subject matter expert this video does not give us anything new, I have been following your posts and threads and I would expect more from you than this. Disappointing really.

What are we supposed to do now to Karl 12? To burn him at the stake? Execution by firing squad? Stoning?
He has been promoted to FSME because he deserved it 100%, because of his GREAT contribution to the board, especially with the great threads he has found the time to start (unlike you did). Your post really saddened me, for what it's worth. The pot calling the kettle black
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