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Topic started on 20-3-2010 @ 09:13 AM by tothetenthpower

U.N. chief in Israel: Stop settlements


www.msnbc.msn.com
RAMALLAH, West Bank - Israeli settlement building anywhere on occupied land is illegal and must be stopped, U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon said Saturday, after getting a closer look at some of the Israeli enclaves scattered across Palestinian-claimed territories.

From a hilltop observation post on the outskirts of the Palestinian city of Ramallah, the U.N. secretary-general saw the sprawling West Bank settlement of Givat Zeev, home to 11,000 Israelis who live in rows of red-roofed houses. The panorama included Jewish neighborhoods in traditionally Arab east Jerusalem, the Israeli-annexed sector of
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reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 09:16 AM by Dock9
reply to post by tothetenthpower



I'm trying very hard to have an Israel-free year

Israel makes it difficult of course

Because it appears Israel cannot tolerate for one moment to pass on this planet without Israel gaining attention

However, if I were immensely powerful, I know what I'd do with Israel



reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 10:07 AM by pthena
reply to post by tothetenthpower

from linked news story:
Nearly half a million Israelis live on war-won land, including some 180,000 in east Jerusalem and nearly 300,000 in the West Bank.

You should have stipulated that posters not respond until at least reading the news story. My thoughts are that ignorance concerning the history and legal status of now-days Israel are intentionally fostered.

The media is perpetuating ignorance by not mentioning background, or even linking to relevant legal documents. Instead of merely quoting Ban, as calling it illegal, they should have linked to the legal document which establishes the illegality. I'll find these links myself since MSM would rather have the ignorant discussing this as an issue of difference of opinion rather than as a legal issue. Hint, UN charter specifically forbids expanding national territory through war conquest. I think the Israeli State is signatory to this binding international treaty. (11-05-1949 )

One link:Question of Palestine at the United Nations

www.un.org...
After looking at various alternatives, the UN proposed the partitioning of Palestine into two independent States, one Palestinian Arab and the other Jewish, with Jerusalem internationalized (Resolution 181 (II) of 1947). One of the two States envisaged in the partition plan proclaimed its independence as Israel and in the 1948 war expanded to occupy 77 per cent of the territory of Palestine. Israel also occupied the larger part of Jerusalem. Over half of the indigenous Palestinian population fled or were expelled. Jordan and Egypt occupied the other parts of the territory assigned by the partition resolution to the Palestinian Arab State which did not come into being.

In the 1967 war, Israel occupied the remaining territory of Palestine, until then under Jordanian and Egyptian control (the West Bank and Gaza Strip). This included the remaining part of Jerusalem, which was subsequently annexed by Israel. The war brought about a second exodus of Palestinians, estimated at half a million. Security Council resolution 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967 called on Israel to withdraw from territories it had occupied in the 1967 conflict.

In 1974, the General Assembly reaffirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, national independence and sovereignty, and to return. The following year, the General Assembly established the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People. The General Assembly conferred on the PLO the status of observer in the Assembly and in other international conferences held under United Nations auspices.


Now for my opinion. Since Israel unilaterally declared independence without stating it's boundaries, Palestine should unilaterally declare independence and state it's boundaries to include all territories per 11-05-1949 not including internationally recognized current Jordanian, or Egyptian territory.



[edit on 20-3-2010 by pthena]


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 10:07 AM by Zeus2573
Originally posted by Dock9
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post by tothetenthpower





However, if I were immensely powerful, I know what I'd do with Israel


O, please do tell. What would you do to Israel? By the way, I couldn't help but notice upon looking at the word Israel. It is very similar to Is-real. Hmmm.

~ Zeus

[edit on 20-3-2010 by Zeus2573]


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:26 PM by illusive man
reply to post by tothetenthpower



considering the current super power cant say anything to israel without back peddling and then retracting or moddifying their disagreement with this country.

is this supprising?

None of the countries with real power give a cr** or have the balls clinched by the lubby groups to do anything



reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 02:02 PM by Bunken Drum
reply to post by MaxBlack
As long as Israel continues to act in accordance to their usual manner, Obama will succeed in proving to world or at least planting the idea that Israel is out of control and has become a danger to the Middle East.
What does anyone need Obama for to "prove" or "plant the idea"? The actions of Israel have been & are constantly all over the MSM. All anyone needs to think about is UN resolutions + IAEA + Goldstone Report + Mossad = Rogue State. Its not rocket science.
Thats not to say they are the only ones, but they are the only ones with nukes.
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