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Topic started on 20-3-2010 @ 02:33 AM by highlyoriginal

IMF calls for new body to save taxpayers from burden of failing banks




The International Monetary Fund has called for a European "fire brigade" funded by the finance industry to deal with the collapse of banks that operate in several countries.

Managing director Dominique Strauss-Kahn urged the European Union to create a European resolution authority to deal with insolvent banks that would force shareholders and uninsured creditors – rather than taxpayers –to bear the costs of failure. The authority would be funded by the financial industry from deposit insurance fees and levies on institutions, he said.

Read the full article
here

Hmm... am I reading this right? The EU is going to create a deal that will 'force' shareholders and uninsured creditors to bear the costs of the failure of the banks???

I hope someone else can add some more to this because either way I look at it, it looks bad. It says "rather than taxpayers" which sounds good, but then again it's going to hurt uninsured creditors? Is that any better? I'm not being sarcastic either, I'm sharing this because I believe people will want to see it, but also because I would like some insight on this. So please, comment!

*edit to add: By the way, I didn't know exactly where to put this thread, I'm hoping I put it in the right place. I was thinking US Political Madness since it says it will operate in several countries, but then again it doesn't mention which ones. Mods feel free to move if you deem necessary.

[edit on 20-3-2010 by highlyoriginal]


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 05:19 AM by Amagnon
This is certainly a better idea than letting tax payers pick up the tab.

Un-insured creditors means anyone who holds bank debt, so investors in the banks, whether shareholders or bond holders would be the ones who suffered if the bank crashed - which is certainly a lot fairer than letting people pay who had nothing to do with the bank.

EDIT: I thought I would add some emphasis, because in the OP you expressed some concern regarding the idea.

The plan would mean: Only those INVESTORS who INTENTIONALLY put their money into that bank (not as a deposit, but either by buying bonds or shares), with the expectation of returns, and therefore with the knowledge that they were making an INVESTMENT, and therefore accepting a RISK would suffer if the bank failed. So - if you make a bad investment, you lose - a very fair idea.

Compare that to the US case for example. The PEOPLES money, who had NOTHING to do with the bank, was used to repair the banks. In other words the banks STOLE the peoples money - because they ran a crappy business and failed. NOT FAIR - in fact it is THEFT of YOUR MONEY!


Also, the plan does not refer to deposits at all - which are normally insured by governments anyway - so they should be safe, which is fine.

The system sounds fine - except for one thing - insurance and levies.

What this means is that the banks costs go up - that means that lending rates would have to increase, or interest on deposits decrease or both.

Most people use banks - so the additional costs would be passed on anyway.

The upside though is - if you are not using the banking system, you do not have to pay at all - which is great, because I think everyone needs to find a way to remove themselves from the banking system.

One other risk is, the pool of money created would need to be managed, meaning more possibilities for corruption and speculation. The fund should be invested in hard assets like gold and diversified real estate, then it would be ok.

[edit on 20-3-2010 by Amagnon]


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 07:31 AM by St Udio
reply to post by highlyoriginal



The International Monetary Fund has called for a European "fire brigade" funded by the
finance industry to deal with the collapse of banks that operate in several countries.

Managing director Dominique Strauss-Kahn urged the European Union to create a European
resolution authority to deal with insolvent banks that would force shareholders
and uninsured creditors – rather than taxpayers –to bear the costs of failure.
The authority would be funded by the financial industry from deposit insurance fees
and levies on institutions, he said.


Read the full article at OP LINK


the proposed european authority sounds like the existing FDIC in the USA...the FDIC insures
the depositors of member banks, which gives banks the ability to circumvent regulations and
guidelines which restrict the banks risk leverage to somewhere near 10%...

And the banks responded, by issuing nonregulated paper, disguised in technical terms as 'Bonds' {which then leveraged the bank risk to over 40-70%}
which were/Are (believe it or not, banks are still creating these derivatives on the same pace as before the Crisis began)
actually unfunded, unbacked derivatives, issued willy-nilly as the need arose, and this funny 'paper' was duly listed in the bank ledgers as 'Assets' having value.


the only 'value' the worthless paper had/has was/is the ultimate and eventual bailout with taxpayer monies.
So that the whole body of financial law & precident would not collapse...
as a result, All the bankers' counterfiet 'bonds' were given credibility and monitized as if they were legitimate and legal Bonds/Notes= but in actuality are only worthless derivatives, created out of thin air...





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