Now im 28, have a husband and atleast some sort of normal life. Only a few days ago i discovered that there even are nocturnal people, and that it's
not alway their choice. Since then i arranged my life to meet my body's needs as much as possible. I go to bed at 6 am now, make hubby breakfest then
sleep, i get up at around 4-5pm. And i tell you i feel so much better already. My depression has lifted, i don't have trouble finding strenght to do
stuff at day, like home cleaning ect., i now do it at night. I don't have to wonder why im so lazy at day, i now know why. I also know that if i find
a job, it has to be a night shift. Of course there are still appoinments that i have to go to at early day hours, but i guess i can manage them.
Atleast no more struggle every night to force myself to sleep.
Of course i tried on and off to change my rythm, but if it worked, it was only a few days and my hour's got later and later. The older i got the
less i manage to fall asleep at night. The last few times i could only take a nap for around 3 hours, no matter how exhausted i was, no matter how
sleepdepriven. But when the sun rises and birds start to sing, i feel very comfortable going to sleep. I even open the windows a bit so i have some
sunlight. It helps me to sleep when i know and can sense its day outside. Then i can easily sleep up to 12 hours, so it is for sure not insomania.
Never had a problem sleeping at the right hours.
If i could give you any advice, then to accept to be nocturnal and rearrange your life, if possible. Forcing yourself into daylife will only make you
sick in the end. It's not worth it. There's to much beauty at night to be discovered. Even if it can be a little bit lonely.
Thanks for reading this far.
Please share your thoughts, personal storys, ideas, whatever.
What can we do to wake society? How do you cope with beeing nocturnal? How do you manage to get through school. How do you manage to survive the day
if you have to get up early? What are you doing against boredom at night?
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Topic started on 20-3-2010 @ 12:17 AM by Nightflower
Excuse spelling misstakes, it's not my motherlanguage.
This topic is not much discussed and should be brought to light, or darkness
.
There are many people that are naturally nocturnal. Even science begins to acknowledge that. Most don't realize they are designed that way by nature and struggle on and off with it. And most of society are completly ignorant about it. They call us lazy, evil, drug addicts and so forth. Doctors prescribe us „medicine“ thats supposed to help us, afterall they think it's a sickness and we can change our rythm if we just wanted to.
The truth is most of us tried really hard to change it, but it doesn't work. Trying to live like „day people“ only makes us sick. We feel like sleepwalking zombies if we have to get up in the morning. We never reach our full potential till the sun goes down. Personally im most active at around 10pm till 5am.
This ignorance leads to lots of unneded problems for us. We can get bad grades in school, can't have all the jobs others can have. Many places like bars, clubs, ect. have to close early. We have to be silent when we do stuff in our home, music has to be quiet ect. And if we are out late night we can be very fast be supected to be a criminal. Many of us are a little lonely. It's not very easy to find somone to share the nights with, atleast im not very lucky in that department. My husband could be nocturnal, but is forced to get up early for his job.
We are not lazy or anything bad, we just have a different rythm and should have the same rights and oppurtunities as everyone else.
Here are some links:
www.associatedcontent.com...
www.geocities.com...
Heres my personal story:
I had to spend most of my childhood in a children's home because my mother got sick and couldn't care for me. It was led by nuns, and they were very strict about when to go to bed, and it was always very early, around 8pm. Most of the night's i've found myself just laying in the bed, making up fantasy stories with stuffed animals and would only fall asleep very late. Then through the day i was never feeling to well, felt more like a dream and on autopilot.
When i was 13 i got back to my mother, wich was well enough to care for me, but had a daytime job, so i was pretty much alone all the time and had not many resctrictions. For the first time i had my own tv in my room, wich only led me to watch tv till very late. I remember the best friend i had back then, he was also nocturnal and only a block away. So either of us would knock on anothers window at night and we were off to walk around or do stuff. It was beautiful to be able to do more at night then just laying quiet in bed watching tv, not to disturb anyone who was asleep. Walking around at night just feels like pure bliss to me, it's quiet, peaceful, the moonlight is refreshing and i feel so much more alive, all the struggle and stress falls off.
Of course beeing up all night didn't help with school. Every night i would get to little sleep and would almost always be to late for school. It was so hard to get up. I couldn't understand why we have to get up at such an ungodly hour. When i was in school i would be sitting at the window, staring, struggling to stay awake and follow the teacher. Each year i was giving up the struggle more and more, afterall i couldn't concentrate anyway. So i would most of the time listen to music, take a nap, or disturb others. I started to smoke to stay awake. Of course my grades got worse and worse (and my iq is around 140) , everything felt like a waste of time, i got depressed and into drugs. Drugs at least got me some joy out of life at that time. One day i just broke down. Stopped completly to go to school, got anxiety and all kind of problems . Took me years to recover, but atleast i didn't have to get up early everyday for school anymore.
[edit on 20-3-2010 by Nightflower]
[edit on 20-3-2010 by Nightflower]
This topic is not much discussed and should be brought to light, or darkness
. There are many people that are naturally nocturnal. Even science begins to acknowledge that. Most don't realize they are designed that way by nature and struggle on and off with it. And most of society are completly ignorant about it. They call us lazy, evil, drug addicts and so forth. Doctors prescribe us „medicine“ thats supposed to help us, afterall they think it's a sickness and we can change our rythm if we just wanted to.
The truth is most of us tried really hard to change it, but it doesn't work. Trying to live like „day people“ only makes us sick. We feel like sleepwalking zombies if we have to get up in the morning. We never reach our full potential till the sun goes down. Personally im most active at around 10pm till 5am.
This ignorance leads to lots of unneded problems for us. We can get bad grades in school, can't have all the jobs others can have. Many places like bars, clubs, ect. have to close early. We have to be silent when we do stuff in our home, music has to be quiet ect. And if we are out late night we can be very fast be supected to be a criminal. Many of us are a little lonely. It's not very easy to find somone to share the nights with, atleast im not very lucky in that department. My husband could be nocturnal, but is forced to get up early for his job.
We are not lazy or anything bad, we just have a different rythm and should have the same rights and oppurtunities as everyone else.
Here are some links:
www.associatedcontent.com...
www.geocities.com...
Heres my personal story:
I had to spend most of my childhood in a children's home because my mother got sick and couldn't care for me. It was led by nuns, and they were very strict about when to go to bed, and it was always very early, around 8pm. Most of the night's i've found myself just laying in the bed, making up fantasy stories with stuffed animals and would only fall asleep very late. Then through the day i was never feeling to well, felt more like a dream and on autopilot.
When i was 13 i got back to my mother, wich was well enough to care for me, but had a daytime job, so i was pretty much alone all the time and had not many resctrictions. For the first time i had my own tv in my room, wich only led me to watch tv till very late. I remember the best friend i had back then, he was also nocturnal and only a block away. So either of us would knock on anothers window at night and we were off to walk around or do stuff. It was beautiful to be able to do more at night then just laying quiet in bed watching tv, not to disturb anyone who was asleep. Walking around at night just feels like pure bliss to me, it's quiet, peaceful, the moonlight is refreshing and i feel so much more alive, all the struggle and stress falls off.
Of course beeing up all night didn't help with school. Every night i would get to little sleep and would almost always be to late for school. It was so hard to get up. I couldn't understand why we have to get up at such an ungodly hour. When i was in school i would be sitting at the window, staring, struggling to stay awake and follow the teacher. Each year i was giving up the struggle more and more, afterall i couldn't concentrate anyway. So i would most of the time listen to music, take a nap, or disturb others. I started to smoke to stay awake. Of course my grades got worse and worse (and my iq is around 140) , everything felt like a waste of time, i got depressed and into drugs. Drugs at least got me some joy out of life at that time. One day i just broke down. Stopped completly to go to school, got anxiety and all kind of problems . Took me years to recover, but atleast i didn't have to get up early everyday for school anymore.
[edit on 20-3-2010 by Nightflower]
[edit on 20-3-2010 by Nightflower]
i struggled for
so long with this issue. trying to be a daytime person, but my body just wouldnt permit it. i think it may have been a real big contributing factor to
my depression...because now that im following my body's natural rhythm, i feel a lot better, and less depressed.reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:35 AM by Divinorumus
reply to post by Nightflower
Whoa, you make being nocturnal sound like a bad thing. Hey, I'm nocturnal, always have been since my early teens, and have remained so to this very day. And, I've loved every minute of it.
Being nocturnal, I am able to work those late night shifts that paid higher wages. Being nocturnal I am able to go grocery shopping and have the whole store to practically to myself at 3AM. Get to park closer to the front door too. Being nocturnal I am not familiar with traffic jams. My night eye sight is better than the non-nocturnals, and I don't have those skin cancer spots all over me either, ha. Life is more peaceful at night. Quieter too. No traffic sounds, no airport jet noises. The world also seems to have just the right number of people in it at night too. Oh, and surfing the internet is faster at night (videos don't keep pausing). When you're doing stuff at night, there are fewer chances of an interruption too (phone, visitors, etc.). There are a few downsides to being nocturnal though .. the neighbors don't like ya mowing the yard at 4AM .. but I decided to make that a downside of being non-nocturnal instead, ha.
Whoa, you make being nocturnal sound like a bad thing. Hey, I'm nocturnal, always have been since my early teens, and have remained so to this very day. And, I've loved every minute of it.
Being nocturnal, I am able to work those late night shifts that paid higher wages. Being nocturnal I am able to go grocery shopping and have the whole store to practically to myself at 3AM. Get to park closer to the front door too. Being nocturnal I am not familiar with traffic jams. My night eye sight is better than the non-nocturnals, and I don't have those skin cancer spots all over me either, ha. Life is more peaceful at night. Quieter too. No traffic sounds, no airport jet noises. The world also seems to have just the right number of people in it at night too. Oh, and surfing the internet is faster at night (videos don't keep pausing). When you're doing stuff at night, there are fewer chances of an interruption too (phone, visitors, etc.). There are a few downsides to being nocturnal though .. the neighbors don't like ya mowing the yard at 4AM .. but I decided to make that a downside of being non-nocturnal instead, ha.
reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 01:38 AM by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Nightflower
I can definitely attest to this, night people do exist. I've been on the same basic sleep schedule for five years now and it usually involves going to sleep when the sun comes up and waking up around noon. Most people thought I was just lazy until I explained to them I only get the same 6-8 hours your supposed to get its just while my 6-8 takes me until afternoon some days.
I love how much easier it is to get things done while everyone's asleep, particularly because I do a lot of creative writing and it isn't easy to think with people distracting you. Sometimes people mention to me how early they get up and I just can't believe it, some people are waking up when I'm going to bed.
Thanks for sharing your story. You're not alone, there's a lot of other night owls out there.
I can definitely attest to this, night people do exist. I've been on the same basic sleep schedule for five years now and it usually involves going to sleep when the sun comes up and waking up around noon. Most people thought I was just lazy until I explained to them I only get the same 6-8 hours your supposed to get its just while my 6-8 takes me until afternoon some days.
I love how much easier it is to get things done while everyone's asleep, particularly because I do a lot of creative writing and it isn't easy to think with people distracting you. Sometimes people mention to me how early they get up and I just can't believe it, some people are waking up when I'm going to bed.
Thanks for sharing your story. You're not alone, there's a lot of other night owls out there.
reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 03:26 AM by ScRuFFy63
Fpr those of you that are "nocturnal" that's all fine and dandy but just know that your body, specifically your pineal gland changes serotonin to
melatonin only while you sleep at night.
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 03:31 AM by Jezus
Originally posted by ScRuFFy63
Fpr those of you that are "nocturnal" that's all fine and dandy but just know that your body, specifically your pineal gland changes serotonin to melatonin only while you sleep at night.
en.wikipedia.org...
Obviously the point of this thread is that people have come to realize their "Circadian rhythm" is not the same as most people's...
reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 04:14 AM by space cadet
reply to post by ScRuFFy63
I have to say then that I must not need it. I sleep well and am a very upbeat person. I do not use drugs, I do use hemp, I have since I was 13, I am considered to be articulate, prompt, thourough, honest, hardworking, and the favorite aunt, niece, sister, and friend to many. So what do you think I am missing because of my pineal gland?
I have to say then that I must not need it. I sleep well and am a very upbeat person. I do not use drugs, I do use hemp, I have since I was 13, I am considered to be articulate, prompt, thourough, honest, hardworking, and the favorite aunt, niece, sister, and friend to many. So what do you think I am missing because of my pineal gland?
reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 04:23 AM by glitchinmymatrix
reply to post by Nightflower
Well, I'm bipolar and take medication to fall asleep. If I don't take it, I can be up for 24 hours before I start looking at the clock after yawning and such.
When I do sleep, it's for around 12 hours. So, eventually, my sleep schedule flip flops all over again, and I'm awake during the day. I absolutely do not like any light when I sleep. Of course, that's very difficult to cope with if you have to wake during the night, and besides, there's always a bit creeping in from the windows. Anyway, I don't have any specific time that I sleep. It's more "when I get sleepy, I sleep" and that's it. When I have appointments, of course like anyone else, it is a chore to wake up after not getting as much as I want and waking up when I feel rested and the medication has worn off.
Anyway, one thing I like about being awake at night is that it's quiet. When I'm asleep during the day, usually the daytime noises aren't enough to wake me up, so I'm glad to have it quiet when I'm awake and be unaware of the noise while I'm sleeping during the day. I prefer to be alone and don't like the phone ringing or anything. The internet is my preferred communication venue.
It's hard to even think about any rhythm when my sleep is so affected by medication that stays in my system and affects me for 12 hours. I have tried to wake up in the mornings and fall asleep at night, but it's hard to fall asleep when I'm not tired..and hard to wake up still feeling sleepy.
Well, I'm bipolar and take medication to fall asleep. If I don't take it, I can be up for 24 hours before I start looking at the clock after yawning and such.
When I do sleep, it's for around 12 hours. So, eventually, my sleep schedule flip flops all over again, and I'm awake during the day. I absolutely do not like any light when I sleep. Of course, that's very difficult to cope with if you have to wake during the night, and besides, there's always a bit creeping in from the windows. Anyway, I don't have any specific time that I sleep. It's more "when I get sleepy, I sleep" and that's it. When I have appointments, of course like anyone else, it is a chore to wake up after not getting as much as I want and waking up when I feel rested and the medication has worn off.
Anyway, one thing I like about being awake at night is that it's quiet. When I'm asleep during the day, usually the daytime noises aren't enough to wake me up, so I'm glad to have it quiet when I'm awake and be unaware of the noise while I'm sleeping during the day. I prefer to be alone and don't like the phone ringing or anything. The internet is my preferred communication venue.
It's hard to even think about any rhythm when my sleep is so affected by medication that stays in my system and affects me for 12 hours. I have tried to wake up in the mornings and fall asleep at night, but it's hard to fall asleep when I'm not tired..and hard to wake up still feeling sleepy.
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