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Marines vs. Rangers outcome

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posted on Jun, 6 2004 @ 08:35 AM
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The Marine raiders were disbaned quite a few years back. They were a recon like unit. They conducted small riverine ops and worked closely with recon. They were kind of like a Navy Special Boat Unit. I think your recruiter may be BSing you. They are famous for that. I hope this of help to you. If you are looking to join the service the Marines is the only way. Good Luck

Semper Fi.
Nitvizion
from the shadows




posted on Jun, 6 2004 @ 07:10 PM
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Rangers, all the way...they're more objective when they need to be...whereas marines are gung ho.



posted on Jun, 6 2004 @ 07:13 PM
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I'd go with this one however...Royal SAS versus Army Delta! Whats your opinion on that?



posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 12:08 AM
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Never heard of 'em. Might be a unit name or something like that. Marine Recon, however, is considered Special Forces to some and not so to others. I've seen some of those guys work and in my opinion they're up there with the ranks of the SEALs and Delta Force. These guys go to an area and can stay there for up to ten days doing recon without getting caught. Marine Force Recon's training is probably more grueling and difficult than normal Marine training. I was a Ranger, not a Marine, so I'm not really sure how that works.



posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 12:15 AM
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There are Royal Marines and SAS, then there is Delta Force. Well, this one is quite tough. SAS training is harder than SEAL and Green Beret training. Whereas I feel that the SEALs and Green Berets could defeat the Royal Marines, I'm not sure if Delta could defeat the SAS. Delta or Detachment SFOD-D is composed of the highly underrated Green Berets (They are the special forces of the army, equivalent to the SEALs who are the special forces of the Navy), and standout Rangers as well as a few others. Delta and SAS cross-train, they are both very good. SAS and Delta use similar tactics and similar warfare, they are like twin brothers. Spetsnatz is also very good. If you want more info on the SAS read the book Bravo Two Zero. I highly recommend it.



posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by Iceman86
There are Royal Marines and SAS, then there is Delta Force. Well, this one is quite tough. SAS training is harder than SEAL and Green Beret training. Whereas I feel that the SEALs and Green Berets could defeat the Royal Marines, I'm not sure if Delta could defeat the SAS. Delta or Detachment SFOD-D is composed of the highly underrated Green Berets (They are the special forces of the army, equivalent to the SEALs who are the special forces of the Navy), and standout Rangers as well as a few others. Delta and SAS cross-train, they are both very good. SAS and Delta use similar tactics and similar warfare, they are like twin brothers. Spetsnatz is also very good. If you want more info on the SAS read the book Bravo Two Zero. I highly recommend it.


firstly the royal marines are like your rangers a small military elite force but are trained to the same physical fitness of seals
the SBS which is a detachment of the royal marines could probably be called the elite and would beat seals no problem
the sas could beat delta cause thier trained to be ruthless



posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 02:39 AM
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many thanks for the replies to my questions. i'm still waiting to go back to meps again, for the fourth time, but something tells me after three times, perhaps something greater is telling me not to go
? but it really only depends if you believe in those things.



posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 03:09 AM
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The Rangers versus a normal marine would always win hands down.

But, once you start getting into the Marine Recon, Navy SEALS, Rangers, or any other specialist from most devloped country, you are talking about the Elite of each force. How can you really compare? Most have different specialties otherwise why not just have one and only one special force made up of everyone from each service of their country. So, the winner would depend on the setting and their specialty. Other than that to say who would be the winner, is just pride.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 01:05 AM
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JCmin Japan has made a good point. It's all situational as far as Special Forces go. I think the better question to ask is "which Special Forces has the hardest training." Not a matter of pride mind you, but just a question intellectuals might ask. And no, tougher training doesn't always mean better results like most people think it does. Tactics, experience, and what many in the Special Forces department call a "feel" for combat is what wins the day. The entire Rangers vs. Marines thing is just a reply to someone who stated that the Marines could defeat the Rangers. I just wanted to say that, as a Ranger, I don't think that it is very likely. This is my unbiased opinion and I have much respect for all the Marines who are present or dead. As far as joining the military is concerned, it's a good choice in my opinion. I see many people in their later years (40's, 50's) regretting their life. All they did for many years was eat breakfast, work, eat lunch, work, eat dinner, go home, watch TV and go to bed. Not very exciting. The life of a soldier (especially Special Forces) is something that you'll be glad you got to be a part of. Trust me, it may not be as easy as a normal life, but you'll get more excitement and fun from the job. You won't regret a thing. You make the most out of every day and you learn that you can do 10 times more than what you thought you could. And yes, you do have to kill people. I won't mince words, I won't say things like "strategically removing the opposition," if you're going to join the military then your main job is to kill or assist in killing other people. In the end, it's your choice. Choose wisely.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 01:01 PM
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Iceman, you are full of shiznit in so many ways. You were NOT a Ranger.

If you insit that you were, visit www.armyranger.com/bb

I read a couple of these arguments.......In the end, we are all on the same side...however.

Not ONE unit could do or do as well the missions that Rangers do.....

In general, I'd say Marine Infantry is better then Army LEG infantry....that's about it. Problem with Marines is they always think they are the best, when the reality is far different.

A-co 2/75 RANGER 91-93

[edit on 17-6-2004 by BadMuther]



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 04:23 PM
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are u sure?
marines spend more time in training than army
i mean USMC reacon squads are solid.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 04:23 PM
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Most MAU and MEU are special ops capable. My $.02 Rangers and Marines are currently about equal the exeption being Marines don't go to Jump School.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 04:25 PM
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marines do go 2 jump school but their the pones that wanna or SF guys



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
marines do go 2 jump school but their the pones that wanna or SF guys


SomeMarines got to Jump School but all Rangers do.



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 05:14 PM
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no wonder the rangers are the very elite
but all of our rmc para core do



posted on Jun, 17 2004 @ 07:56 PM
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This better not be the same Apollyon that was busted on ArmyRanger for being a poser.........



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by BadMuther
This better not be the same Apollyon that was busted on ArmyRanger for being a poser.........


83-87 2 years sea duty then 2/5 and 2/9



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 10:05 AM
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i'm from the uk and from what i know (bits and pieces) they both have strenghts and weaknesses but the rangers would win



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 10:56 AM
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depends what part of the marines if ur talking about a genral marine then no bother will the rangers win
but if its marine recon then no way will rangers win



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Apollyon

Originally posted by BadMuther
This better not be the same Apollyon that was busted on ArmyRanger for being a poser.........


83-87 2 years sea duty then 2/5 and 2/9


My apologies...we recently busted out a poser with the same name.

My buddy was in 1/9.



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