Originally posted by timewalker
16,500 new IRS employees...ha. That sure is a lot of new employees to deal with no new taxes.

Well, Obama did say that he was going to create new jobs.......



[edit on 19-3-2010 by jerico65]

On the other hand, Obama can claim the creation of 16,500 GREEN jobs.

IMO, they should have worked on the tax issue instead of healthcare. The IRS and all its regulations are a big joke.







[edit on 19-3-2010 by jam321]

If America doesn't revolt over this sh*t, then America is completely castrated and sedated.

Moving to a 3rd world country is lookin better and better.

Originally posted by timewalker
NO NEW TAXES.......

The campaign promise was no tax increases for those making under 200k a year. This bill increases income taxes on high earners by a couple points.

Originally posted by Romans 10:9
If America doesn't revolt over this sh*t, then America is completely castrated and sedated.

Moving to a 3rd world country is lookin better and better.

Yalls sound like a godamned libral socialist in 2003, over the wars and the like...
But then again this is worse than war and will cause dead peoples and cost a trillion

Originally posted by jam321
IMO, it is time. In a few months, many will be in reelection mode and don't want to deal with any controversial bill. They figure the public will forgive them on this one, just like the stimulus, once some months have passed by.

Good point, I always forget that it's usually about staying in power rather than helping the country, heh.

I'm just curious about the nightmare that is likely to come out of this.

-What about companies who pay 100% of health insurance costs for their employee's? I know this is a rare thing to find anymore, but my husbands boss is considering this right now. Will we be forced to pay the penality for having a good boss? If not, how in the world are we going to report on tax forms that he is providing full family coverage at no cost to us?

-How in the world is the IRS not going to become overwhelmed by ensuring that companies have less than, or more than the 30 employee's? Will independant contractors or temp employee's count in this magic number? Who will be in charge of this bean counting?

Won't this push smaller businesses into keeping their number below 30, thus, making for a situation where jobs that may have been created, might not happen to keep their employee number below the 30 mark?(IMO, not good when unemployment is so high)

-What about families that are partially insured? I know of a couple of families where children and one parent are covered, while the other parent is uninsured. How can the government determine that the money spent on coverage from a family covers all of the family members?

Basically, I think this bill is so bloated with "What ifs" that it is going to turn into a nightmare filled with confusion, loopholes and a ton of abuse.

why revolt? why not?

if you keep letting people push you around they will never stop thats why.

there are alot more people agianst obama care than is being let on.

the protests did absolutely did nothing today.

congress and obama still think they are are god-which they are not.

any sane person can see where this will lead to..

if you want to be told how to think,what to eat you have too much others dont have enough.

this road leads down a path that is far from what this country use to be.

insurance is the biggest legalized ripoff in this country.
wether it be automotive or health


i know alot of people who go decades without ever needed meanwhile they pay pay pay.

Originally posted by timewalker
Unless you don't do what they say and buy the insurance. If not you get 2.5% tax penalty and fined $750 on top. Last I checked last week. They change it every day.

That's different from what I heard. Michelle Bachman was on Michael Savage's radio program and claimed it's 2.something percent on your first 100k income or a $2200 fine, whichever is higher.

You can say, it's my right not to buy it, I don't want it, but society still treats your illnesses and injuries regardless of your ability to pay if you lack insurance. You might not be sick, but what if you get in a car accident and rack up a 50k hospital bill. If you don't have insurance, you're getting a free ride. They would never let people "opt out", let the ER staff watch you bleed to death because you don't have insurance to pay the bill.

The idea is, if you don't have insurance they levy an extra fine on your income taxes to help defer the costs of people like you without insurance who will still use services and cost the medical industry money. It acts as an incentive for you to get health insurance. After the law passes they want people to think, why not just buy a $2000 annual health insurance policy rather than give the gubmint the money ?