I was invited to be a guest on Freedomizer Radio to speak about Vaccines / Autism link, page 1
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reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 04:15 PM by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day seattletruth

I certainly don't agree with all that you post.....

But I have great respect for the fact you will get out there & give it a go!

Good on you

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 05:17 PM by vesta
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Just to add my concern.........I was soooo reluctant to let my son have the MMR had so many reminders to say he was overdue for vaccine update.

It took me until he was 4 he had first vaccine but would not let him have the second - The Midwife was angry with me...................I said was it problem if he did not have the second - she said NO!!!


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 05:34 PM by seattletruth
Originally posted by Artilleryman
I thought this idea was already debunked.

googling autism vaccine link brings up this and a bunch of others like it:


That's a completely different study.. Based on the thimerosol straw man argument like I talked about on the radio show.



reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 06:24 PM by Xcalibur254
reply to post by OhZone



Correlation does not imply causation. I mean population has also increased over the years that autism has increased. So, how can we be sure it is not caused by more people living in one area? Dr. Michael Merzenich managed to create rats with autism by constantly playing white noise beginning as soon as they were born. Which would seem to indicate it is a product of an increase in background noise.

This could be due to the fact that early in life the brain releases brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) which is why the brains of children are much more plastic than an adult brain. Merzenich theorized that children who are predisposed to autism and in environments that may overstimulate the neurons of the brain cause massive amounts of BDNF to be released prematurely, so the brain does not become as specialized.

It also explains why children with autism have very sensitive hearing. Those areas of their brain have been overdeveloped due to the fact that the major stimulus they were receiving when their brain was producing BDNF was the background noise. This further goes on to explain why most children with autism have an IQ of around 70. It has been shown that children who are constantly exposed to ambient noise tend to have lower IQs. So, we can either accept theories based on correlations or those that have actually managed to recreate autistic symptoms in a lab environment?


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 06:24 PM by seattletruth
reply to post by OhZone



I agree.. But generally children under 2 arent eating/drinking extreme amounts of chemicals, unless they are getting it by proxy through their mother's milk.

Age 2 is when autism is usually diagnosed.


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 06:54 PM by FortAnthem
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I did a thread on those vaccine courts and how I believe the deck is stacked against people who bring cases before those courts.

Govt attorneys defend a govt program, using govt-funded science, before govt judges=thimerosal OK


Originally posted by FortAnthem
Originally posted by endisnighe
If the government is involved in business, who are you going to sue? You cannot sue the government or the business, because they are the same entity.



The reason these lawsuits never get anywhere is because the government has no interest in awarding damages to those harmed by vaccines because the money to pay for those damages will come from the government coffers.


Analysts said the decision dealt a severe blow to the more than 5,300 similar cases pending before the special court, part of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims. In 1986, the federal government created the courts and established a tax-funded “National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program” to pay victims and protect drug companies from liability.

The New American



With the system rigged against us so bad, I'm suprised they even let these cases come to trial.




reply posted on 25-3-2010 @ 05:54 PM by OhZone
reply to post by seattletruth



There is MSG in baby formula.

How much of baby's formula is made with GM soy beans?
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