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Originally posted by GenRadek
Also how does one random explosion 6-7 hours before collapse do anything?
Note that both of them characterized the explosion as a rumble, at one point or other. And maybe that's because it was so far down in the basement, likely to weaken the core, that it manifested itself as both a rumble and an explosion?
The building was constructed over a pre-existing electrical
substation owned by Con Edison. The original plans for the Con Ed Substation included supporting a high-rise building, and the foundation was sized for the planned structure. However, the final design for
WTC 7 had a larger footprint than originally planned
WTC 7 and the electrical substation were supported on caisson foundations. When the substation was constructed in 1967, provision was made for a future office tower by including capacity to carry both the
substation and the weight of a future building. Caissons were also installed in the property adjacent to the substation, for the proposed future building. When WTC 7 was constructed approximately 20 years later,
it was significantly larger than the originally proposed building, and required additional caissons to be installed, as shown in Fig. L–3.
The typical caisson consisted of several components: a 30-in., 36-in., or 42-in. diameter steel casing, a heavy rolled or built-up steel core shape, vertical reinforcing bars, spiral rebar, and concrete fill. At the
base of the caisson core, a pattern of shear studs was placed to help transfer the load from the steel caisson core into the encompassing concrete, from which it passed into the rock. The caissons extended
through the soil, and were socketed (seated) in the bedrock, approximately 60 ft below the surface. There were vertical caissons as well as battered (or sloped) caissons to carry the lateral load. Above the
caissons were heavy grillages composed of built up steel girders. Grillages transferred loads between the building columns and the caissons.
Oh, nothing, just a random, everyday explosion. Don't know why the fireman told them to get back because some building in the general vicinity of WTC7 was exploding. Just more people with overactive imaginations I guess.
“We were all standing around helpless…we knew full well it was going to collapse. Everyone there knew. You gotta remember there was a lot of confusion and we didn’t know if another plane was coming…but I never heard explosions like demo charges. We knew with the damage to that building and how hot the fire was, that building was gonna go, so we just waited, and a little later it went."
Originally posted by Crito
Oh, nothing, just a random, everyday explosion. Don't know why the fireman told them to get back because some building in the general vicinity of WTC7 was exploding. Just more people with overactive imaginations I guess.
Rodriguez had other eyewitnesses corroborate his version of events by the way. One of them is at the beginning of this clip.
"I can not understand how people were in 2 World Trade Center on fire in an elevator and the second plane did not hit yet."
[edit on 19-3-2010 by Crito]
Originally posted by Crito
Oh, nothing, just a random, everyday explosion. Don't know why the fireman told them to get back because some building in the general vicinity of WTC7 was exploding. Just more people with overactive imaginations I guess.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Why, you saying he is lying? Well, then how about let's call him up or email him? Cause I can tell you without even calling he is telling the truth.
Kevin McPadden, a former Air Force medic, said his rescue and recovery work in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, left him struggling with depression and anger.
"Every day is a challenge," he said. "I really don't feel alive. I'm a very bitter man."
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by TrueAmerican
One this is from several years back, 2007 I believe.
Two McPadden is a nut who like Willie Rodriquez keeps changing and
embellishing his story with all sort of lurid details
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by Crito
Oh, nothing, just a random, everyday explosion. Don't know why the fireman told them to get back because some building in the general vicinity of WTC7 was exploding. Just more people with overactive imaginations I guess.
Actually, as we well know, the area around WTC 7 had been roped off by firemen many hours before the collapse.
No one needed to get "back" since they were already back. So were the firemen themselves. The collapse from the damage was anticipated well in advance which is why the firemen were ordered out of WTC 7 HOURS in advance.
There is no mystery here.