Nearly half of Israel supports Quartet call for Israeli settlement freeze, page 1
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reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 12:07 PM by Mdv2
The Yediot poll found a statistical tie when it asked Israelis about whether Netanyahu or President Barack Obama is to blame for the current crisis. But when Haaretz asked about the US president's treatment Israel, a surprising 69 percent cast it in a positive light. Just over half said it was business-like, 21 percent said hostile, and 18 percent friendly.


Unlike some people seem to think, most Israelis are truly interested in peace and willing to reach consensus on a constructive solution with the Palestinians, which is why it really shocks me when I read here on ATS that some people wish Israel to be wiped off the map.

These people were given the land and if Palestinians cannot accept this, they should move away. However, Israel needs to withdraw to the borders of 1967 and that is going to be very difficult do the large number of illegal settlements, which are illegal as indicated in a secret memo:
click

A short quote:

The database also shows that, in more than 30 settlements, extensive construction of buildings and infrastructure (roads, schools, synagogues, yeshivas and even police stations) has been carried out on private lands belonging to Palestinian West Bank residents.


The author put it very well:

The settlements are like those blood sucking vampire bats which remove just enough blood from their victims so as not to kill them, but too much to do much good for their health. Or to put it another way, settlements are the Count Dracula of Israeli society. They suck up the lifeblood and nothing can kill them except a stake through the heart. And which Israeli leader has the courage to face the deadly Count and plunge the dagger?


Unfortunately, the previous governments did not have the courage 'to plunge the dagger.' The current administration on the contrarily actively supports the development of settlements.

I remember the pictures from a dismantling of an illegal settlement that happened a few years ago very well.

An impression:




These people are so determined and radical - they really believe that the land they stole from Palestinians is truly part of their 'promised land' and they don't even consider giving up their settlements. Considering the pretty significant number of settlements, abolishing all of them would create extreme instability, unrest and perhaps even uprisings.

Obviously, the Israeli government is never going to ban the construction of settlements, let alone demolish those that already exist. This is also one of the most important reasons why so many Israelis and Palestinians unnecessarily need to suffer. As a consequence, I don't see peace happening anytime soon.






[url=http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0319/Nearly-half-of-Israel-supports-Quartet-call-for-Israeli-settlement-freeze]www.csmonitor.com[ /url]
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reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 12:18 PM by OddTimeSignature
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Unlike some people seem to think, most Israelis are truly interested in peace and willing to reach consensus on a constructive solution with the Palestinians.

Well No...most israelians aren't just 41 to 46 percent...and in a democracy thats a No Go...


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 12:51 PM by Berserker01
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1. Not your friend and don't want to be.

2. Look at the recent threads page and tell me ats isn't anti israel.

3. The OP is the one who said most. That is a bold face lie and I despise liars and those who tolerate them. Apparently you tolerate them.

4. My logic is my own, I do not care if you agree with it or not.

5. Do not take my recent join date as a sign that I do not know most of the ones who yell the loudest. I have been here a long time and know that a debate with you is meaningless.


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 12:53 PM by illusive man
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Yes ATS anti Israel
its also anti Islamic and anti christian and so on

we have all sides call ATS anti something.


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 12:55 PM by Berserker01
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My opinion is my own. You don't like it then you can ignore it, makes me no differance at all.


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 12:59 PM by illusive man
Originally posted by Berserker01
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My opinion is my own. You don't like it then you can ignore it, makes me no differance at all.


and my opinion ios my own aswell
and i am Free to comment on anything i please, you dont like,
tough


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 01:02 PM by Berserker01
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That would be where the "makes me no differance at all" comes in.

Reply to whatever you want, I do not care.



reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 01:03 PM by illusive man
Originally posted by Berserker01
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That would be where the "makes me no differance at all" comes in.

Reply to whatever you want, I do not care.


good good, you do that,
there is also a ignore Button, feel free to use that


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 01:06 PM by Silcone Synapse
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The recant threads page has ZERO bearing on weather or not ATS is anti Isreal.

ATS as a website is completley NOT anti anything.
Read the T+C dude.

Israel is in the news a whole lot recently,and as such is covered by ATS members-Are some anti israel?

Of course they are.
Is this Forum anti Isreal?

Of course not.

Even though many seem to think that is the case of late.


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 01:07 PM by ufoorbhunter
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A good proportion of that % will be Israeli Arabs, they are sure to be against settlement expansion. This figure distorts the views held by Israeli Jews who will be much higher in their support as a guess.


reply posted on 19-3-2010 @ 01:10 PM by Berserker01
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You must have missed it, I will repeat myself one time.

My opinion is my own. You don't like it then you can ignore it, makes me no differance at all.


illusive man-

I have no idea what it is that I am suppose to be doing. You are making as much sense as the OP did when he said 41-46 percent is the majority.
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