Aftermath: Unanswered Questions About 9/11 (Full Video)

reply to post by impressme


You may find me a bit optimistic Impress. Be that as it may, When push comes to shove Americans win hands down.
Yes we have been lied to, our Presidents assassinated, our ships attacked by our supposed allies and some de funked and antiquated buildings attacked and destroyed. We have been fed crap food and poor medicines.The US media equals Provda of old in Russia.
Attacked from within about our belief systems ,Suffer the invasion of privacy in the name of false terrorism.
Have our government pay women to take their children from family households. And also participate and facilitate the destruction of un born American citizens in favor of non assimilating immigrants. Americans taxpayers pay for their children's birth and health needs while aborted American children body parts are sold to the highest bidders.,
This is communism, this is Zionism at work.
Nevertheless Americans have the Spanish , French, German, Polish and Russian sagas to help them understand HOW this is happening in America today. Karl/ Bush/ Obama/ Marx/ Leninism.
The United States government did not prevent the disasters of 911 . My marks for the US government advancing the well being of the taxpayer---FAIL, deplorably.
The American PEOPLE are the best of the lot.
And we shall over come the tyranny. The glass will remain over half full.

reply to post by m khan


hitler (fascist) and stalin (communist) were in on it together. they made an agreement beforehand. stalin killed more jews than hitler ever did, although some of that number was a result of him allowing hitler to march against jewish towns, villages and cities in russia before stalin bothered to muster a resistance. stalin let him march, unintruded, right up to the outskirts of moscow where hitler's advance was supposedly stopped by snow (and if you believe that snow stopped german soldiers, i have some nice mountain property to sell you in the florida everglades).

let's face it, the people who lead nations are not working with the same set of moral values we are taught to have. personally, i think they are all friends. the people of the world are their enemies or perceived enemies, and they use us to kill each other off, depending on the prevailing views of the people in question and the benefit they provide or may feasibly provide in the future. this is a very delicate game of chess, which they are NOT playing with each other but with their own citizens. if someone manages to rise to power without their approval, they get wiped, nice and quiet, way before they manage to make a serious impact on the political and socio-economics of the globe.

so when someone says to me, why would japan or china or india lie about the same things nasa does??, i just chuckle to myself. ain't nobody at the top, including the socialist and communist nations, that weren't vetted first. for the deception to work, it has to be global, and it is.

thankfully, i'm not saddled with their responsiblities, nor with their difficult game of human chess. i have my own problems. they can keep their dreams of rule the world.

For those who for whatever reason cannot view the video, I would say it is primer on some of the important issues related to 9/11. It is in the form of eleven questions put to eleven 9/11 scholars with a final statement from each at the end. It is a very concise summary of the main issues with no space allotted for rebuttal. Most veteran ATS posters on 9/11 will already know or have looked into all these issues in considerably more depth and have fought it out with the opposition in numerous threads.

I learned a couple of new things though, one of which was that in 1970 four airliners were hijacked by terrorists all on the same day. This was from a lawyer handling a suit against the airlines. The Bush administration's "Who'd a thunk it?" doesn't impress her.

It's a nice video to introduce people to the subject but veteran truthers needn't worry if they can't view it.

Very well put together, it addressed the issues we know for certain and that everyone can relate too. This is the sort of video someone can share with others and not be looked at funny because it doesn't include a bunch of ridiculous conspiracy theories... however, that also is a problem somewhat for me, because there is a lot that wasn't brought up in the video.

They mention how they didn't follow protocol in the video, but they don't extend much information about it, and I wish they would have gone into that issue farther since there is a lot known about this subject.

Nonetheless, video was professionally done.

Other than 2/3 rds depopulation plans, NWO may not be such a terribly terrible situation? i.e.: If you, your wife or children are assumed to not be of high IQ and/or not terribly-productive little #s -- your gone.

Decoy

reply to post by Decoy


i was researching this as well but i saw the opposite reference, such as an interview with tim rifat and rense, called " Obama: The Chosen Pharaoh" (four part series) on youtube, which suggests that a pharaoh can't be in power unless the alphas and intelligent members of the society are removed, since they present the biggest threat to consolidated power. they need more drones and ALOT fewer alphas. some intelligent people will willingly become drones out of self preservation but even then, they'll eventually say something out of frustration.

most intellectuals trend towards alpha type behavior and that doesn't work out too well in the example provided in the video.

I never get tired of watching 911 documentaries, but there is nothing really new here.

Not to say its not worth watching, its well made, your just not going to come away with any new insight than you probably already had.

Originally posted by Decoy
Other than 2/3 rds depopulation plans, NWO may not be such a terribly terrible situation? i.e.: If you, your wife or children are assumed to not be of high IQ and/or not terribly-productive little #s -- your gone.

Decoy

Are you sure the choice will be getting rid of low IQ? TPTB need manual workers to be servants, waiters, farmers, stable boy's you dont need to be terribly clever for these type jobs, to be a grunt. Clever may be somthing that is selected against in the case of underlings as clever leads to self respect and a sense of self worth. Someone that questions.

The cull will just as likely be aimed at the middle class white collar workers whose function is to produce paper and act as a buffer to the upper class.

Perhaps when we think about us and them we should regard anyone who is not them as us or we are no better than 'them'.

nice info i wonder when the truth about 911 will come out

I find it convenient that the supposed Muslim extremists we are now actively pursuing, killing and taking into custody are of the very same ideology that we have been told about in prophecies. Their Mahdi is strikingly similar to the Antichrist we are warned about through our Christian Bible. Is this coincidence or prophecy being fulfilled?

More disturbing yet is the possibility that we have all been tricked. You see if they bring these events to fruition they know we will look to the prophecies and see these things. We will think it is in fact God's will being played out before our very eyes. Hasn't this become a religious war of sorts? Hasn't Bush told us that God told him to invade Iraq and that he hears things from God?

Don't the extremist Muslims point to the Palestine and Israeli conflict as their justification for perpetrating acts of violence against the United States? This and the occupation of Muslim lands that they believe their God said shouldn't be allowed to happen. The avalanche has started and it is gaining momentum. We have to realize that this type of agenda has been played against us all and realize that God has nothing to do with this.

If our foreign policy actually included the American people's will I believe we wouldn't need armed forces to galvanize our presence. We would be welcomed because those people would realize that we are indeed friends. As it is now our government perpetrates things on our behalf that we know nothing about. Would we have agreed to give Saddam WMD's? Would we have agreed to fund the CIA to propagate a Taliban government or destabilize Iran?

There are many things that the public would not have agreed to that have done for 'our own good'. So you have to ask yourself, what is going on?

Originally posted by impressme
There is no doubt in my mind that Dick Chenney was behind the false flag operation of 911 and a few insiders in the Bush administration and a handful of experts in our military, blah blah blah blah blah.....

It never fails to amaze me how the 911 "Truthers" always fall back on blaming Dick Cheney and George Bush for events that they couldn't possibly have orchestrated.

I blame this ignorance on most of the "Truthers" becoming politically aware only after the events of 911. Indeed, if they were old enough to remember the catastrophic Clinton Administration, they would know that the Clintons had more to do with foreign & domestic terrorism than any other administration in the last 50 years.

In fact, the GW Bush administration was nothing so much as a watered-down replay of the Clinton Administration, except that Bush did everything "by the book" while Clinton attempted to write his own playbook, violating international laws, spying on and murdering American citizens, and stonewalling official investigations into his misdeeds in the process.

If you're looking for a culprit behind the events of 911, you have to start 8 years earlier, during the Clinton Administration.

And then realize, to your horror, that the most sinister Clinton is currently our U.S. Secretary of State.

— Doc Velocity

Yeah looks like a great movie, loved the trailer and can't wait till it's released.

Now what was that about 9/11?

reply to post by Doc Velocity

It never fails to amaze me how the 911 "Truthers" always fall back on blaming Dick Cheney and George Bush for events that they couldn't possibly have orchestrated.

For the sake of this discussion only, let’s say your right. That means that 19 uncivilized Arab cave dwellers [color=gold]were able to:

1. Learn the schedules of all these planes at two airports.
2. Learn how many passengers would be on board onboard.
3. Commander 4 airplanes using plastic box cutters.
4. Successfully over ride the on board computers.
5. Fly these complicated Airliners with no prior training, by the seat of their pants.
6. Hit three out of four impossible targets perfectly.
7. Take control of NORAD, FAA, FCC, military leaders, and the offices of the President and Vic President by disrupting all communications between them.
8. Fly our friendly skies, including over highly restricted airspace for an hour with no interference.
9. In the case of seven out of the 19 hijackers walked away un scathed from their suicide missions of terror which brought down the two WTC and WTC 7.
10. Produced fraudulent identities and lived to fly home over seas without being caught.
11. were able to force our President, Vic President, NORAD, FAA, FCC United Airlines, American Airlines, Department of Homeland Security, Military leaders, FBI, CIA and our secret intelligent to lie about everything that happened on 911.

Do you really think that could be?
If you really do believe this, then why would you defend such a weak government?

I blame this ignorance on most of the "Truthers"

Your statement is false, and it is insulting to everyone who is seeking the truth to 911.



The Clinton administration had nothing to do with the remote controlled airplanes that slammed in to the WTC, or the demolition to the WTC.

Personally, I don’t care what Bill Clinton has done, he had nothing to do with 911.

In fact, the GW Bush administration was nothing so much as a watered-downreplay of the Clinton Administration,

You got to be kidding right?

The Clinton Administration didn’t lie to the American people of WMD, or conned the American people to into two illegal wars?

The Clinton Administration did not pass draconian laws against the American people?

The Clinton Administration did not allow the feds to give billions of dollars to corrupt banking institution with no oversight.

You cannot compare the two administrations.
Yes, I agree there was corrupting in the Clinton Administration, but you show me one that never was?

The Clinton Administration did not stage a false flag on American soil, and murdering over 3,000 of our citizens and blaming it on a foreign enemy. An enemy we cannot find.

George W Bush Authorized 911 Attacks Says Government Insider

www.globalresearch.ca...

Did George W. Bush Engineer the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks?

www.rutherford.org...

except that Bush did everything "by the book"

By the book?

Monica Lewinski, will disagree with you.

Yes, illegal torture was not done by the book.
George Bush in By passing congress to get approval for his illegal wars, that was not done by the book.

George Bush, Dick Chenney and the pentagon lying to the 911 commissioners about what they were all doing on that morning on 911, that was not done by the book.

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon Allegations Brought to Inspectors General

Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Revealed: Ashcroft, Tenet, Rumsfeld warned 9/11 Commission about ‘line’ it ’should not cross’

rawstory.com...

This is not by the book.

Then again, the topic is not about Bill Clinton is it.




[edit on 20-3-2010 by impressme]

Originally posted by impressme
The Clinton administration had nothing to do with the remote controlled airplanes that slammed in to the WTC, or the demolition to the WTC.

You have NO PROOF that the planes slamming into the Twin Towers were "remote controlled"... That's absurd. Similarly, you have no proof that the WTC attack was an "inside" demolition job. Again, preposterous, and totally unfeasible... Any professional demolitions expert can tell you that it would take MONTHS of intensive on-site preparation and wiring to bring down EVEN ONE of the towers, and such preparation could never be accomplished without first evacuating the building, tearing out walls, floors and ceilings, and having a full demolitions crew on-site every day.

It could never be accomplished by a handful of covert operatives climbing stealthily through the ductwork, okay? You've been watching too many Keanu Reeves movies.

Originally posted by impressme
Personally, I don’t care what Bill Clinton has done, he had nothing to do with 911.

You "don't care what Bill Clinton has done" says it all, my ignorant friend.

Even though the FIRST explosives attack on the WTC occurred on Bill Clinton's watch.

Even though Bill Clinton refused to extradite Osama Bin Laden from Pakistan, even AFTER it was KNOWN that Al Qaeda had financed the first WTC attack.

Even though the Clinton Justice Dept was responsible for spying on American citizens, murdering four-score human beings in Waco, and FAILING to investigate the president for his OWN international terrorism — ordering missile strikes on Iraq and the Sudan in peacetime WITHOUT first consulting the UN Security Council (that's called ILLEGAL).

Even though the Clinton administration was RIDDLED with incidents of foreign and domestic terrorism, including the OK City bombing, which couldn't have been pulled off by some hayseed militant with a van full of fertilizer, okay?

Those are just a FEW incidents plucked from the archives of the Clinton Administration, an administration that seemed oddly plagued with EXPLODING BUILDINGS on American soil.

That doesn't seem ODD to you, particularly in the years LEADING UP to 911??

The only way this could possibly NOT INTEREST YOU is if you're deliberately ignoring a very obvious pattern of "domestic terrorism" that transpired in this country LONG BEFORE George W. Bush entered the White House.

And if you're ignoring the obvious, that makes you ignorant of a situation you do not wish to acknowledge.

— Doc Velocity







[edit on 3/20/2010 by Doc Velocity]

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


Okay some of my questions have been answered so what I suspected may be true. But one of the things that everybody seems to forget we did kind of help create. We created That mess in the Middle East during the Cold War.

reply to post by Doc Velocity

you have no proof that the WTC attack was an "inside" demolition job. Again, preposterous, and totally unfeasible... Any professional demolitions expert can tell you that it would take over a month of intensive preparation and wiring to bring down EVEN ONE of the towers, and such preparation could never be accomplished without first evacuating the buildings, tearing out walls, floors and ceilings, and having a full demolitions crew on-site every day.

No proof?

Explosives Found in
World Trade Center Dust
Scientists Discover Both Residues
And Unignited Fragments
Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics
In Debris From the Twin Towers

911research.wtc7.net...

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

www.bentham-open.org.../2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

Scientists, Scholars, Architects & Engineers respond to NIST

911blogger.com...

Direct Evidence for Explosions: Flying Projectiles and
Widespread Impact Damage
Dr. Crockett Grabbe
University of Iowa and SeaLane Consulting
www.SeaLane.org
www.physics.uiowa.edu/~cgrabbe

www.journalof911studies.com...

I think I have proven my argument.

It could never be accomplished by a handful of covert operatives climbing stealthily through the ductwork, okay? You've been watching too many Keanu Reeves movies.

We are not in here to assume what movies I watch.

As far as your “opinion” to how you think it was all done, you have not disproved who, how, why, when, how long, or how many people.

Originally posted by impressme
Personally, I don’t care what Bill Clinton has done, he had nothing to do with 911.

You "don't care what Bill Clinton has done," says it all, my ignorant friend.

So, now I am your ignorant friend?

Those are just a FEW incidents plucked from the archives of the Clinton Administration, an administration that seemed oddly plagued with EXPLODING BUILDINGS on American soil.

So what, he still had nothing to do with 911.

That doesn't seem ODD to you, particularly in the years LEADING UP to 911?

No.

The only way this could possibly NOT INTEREST YOU is if you're deliberately ignoring a very obvious pattern of "domestic terrorism" that transpired in this country LONG BEFORE George W. Bush entered the White House.

911 happened on George Bush watch, not on Bill Clinton watch.

And if you're ignoring the obvious, that makes you ignorant of a situation you do not wish to acknowledge.

Speaking of ignoring the obvious why don’t you read what credible scientists, Engineers, Architect and Scholars have writing about the demolition of the WTC.

www.ae911truth.org...


Getting to the truth to 911 requires one to be opened minded to all the variables that support the real scientific facts, no matter how one’s beliefs are.

Opinions are not facts.

The 911 OS is a “proven conspiracy theory.”

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord


At least, however, this is up and online (legally), and generating income for those who produced it.

This is what it's about!?! Income!!! I get that making movies is not free. I understand the motivation of money making the world turn but I personally know many individuals that have made films of equal merit with no regard to income. They have uploaded their films at cost free for all to view so that the matter can be considered with out regard to "profit". SIGH. It is the finer points like these that generally keep me away from this particular topic. Too many ghouls on all sides. In the time that has passed we have all come to understand our own positions. More movies are not needed. People already know if they are truthers or official story believers. Another movie is not gonna change that.

[edit on 21-3-2010 by Flakey]

Originally posted by impressme
I think I have proven my argument.

Um, no, you haven't. You can't offer as evidence a bunch of theory and manipulated half-truths from other conspiracy sites and blogs, right? I've read all of that stuff, and I think it's bogus, a hoax.

Am I saying that Jim Hoffman, the esteemed Jim Hoffman, the revered Jim Hoffman is a buffoon or a hoaxter? No, I acknowledge that he collected dust in the middle of New York City and found a specialized explosives component... But I dare say that you could find ANYTHING in the dust collected in the middle of New York City.

I would be interested to know how many other chemical compounds and unusual elements Hoffman found in a sampling of New York City dust? I bet the sonofabitch had to filter out traces of Cesium and Plutonium and Strontium and all sorts of extraordinary crap before he arrived at nano-thermitic compounds.

Point being, EVERYTHING can be found in New York City, including traces of military-grade explosives and even nuclear materials, okay?

Hoffman has built up his whole cult on the discovery of traces of something unusual in New York City dust. Woop-dee-goddam-dee-doo! I would like to know if he took control dust samples from Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Houston, San Francisco, etc... What do you want to bet you can find traces of nano-thermitic compounds in ANY metropolitan dustpan?

Show me some HARD evidence, published in a reputable media outlet... I'd accept something from Science News, or maybe Popular Mechanics, for example, or perhaps from a professional demolition trade journal.

But, see, you're never going to be able to provide that sort of evidence. Because you've very conveniently condemned all reputable sources as being on the inside of the conspiracy.

So, you've created a circular and self-validating argument within a fishbowl.

You won't allow your thoughts to extend beyond the confines of your deeply neurotic conspiracy theory. And that's kind of sad, in a way.

— Doc Velocity







[edit on 3/21/2010 by Doc Velocity]

reply to post by Valorian


I have the same problem but found it here for free:

freedocumentaries.org...

Hey, I just want to make sure I am watching the right version. All of them have been up for around 3 years on google video. If its three years old I take it it offers nothing new that hasnt been discussed on these boards recently.
Please give me a shout if I am streaming the wrong one though, thanks.