Kill or Get Killed pdf, page

I uploaded a classic Marine Corps Manual "Kill or Get Killed pdf"
Written by Colonel Rex Applegate (June 21, 1914 – July 14, 1998) worked in the Office of Strategic Services where he trained allied special forces in close-quarter combat during World War II.

In 1943 he wrote Kill or Get Killed, still considered the classic textbook of Western-style hand-to-hand combat. The updated 1976 edition of Kill or Get Killed was published by the US Marine Corps as Fleet Marine Force Reference Publication 12-8

"This reference publication was written in 1976 by Lieutenant Colonel Rex Applegate, USA (Ret), with the help of the Combat Section, Military Intelligence Training Center, Camp Ritchie, Maryland. At last there is one volume which speaks to the subjects of unarmed combat (offensive and defensive), combat use of weapons, disarming the enemy, handling of prisoners, the handle of mob/crowd disobedience, the use of chemicals in such situations, and how to establish a professional riot control unit."

As Always you can download this 440 page e book Kill Or Get Killed Right here from my Media account...
As always you'll need adobe acrobat to view and if anyone has any trouble viewing please let me know

reply to post by DaddyBare

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excellent post there..... I remember when this first came out.... many years back...

reply to post by ChrisF231

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Okay some of the security forces had them...but not everyone gets one

Me When I went to boot (1978) we did train with fixed bayonets but it wasn't the real deal... hard plastic orange rifle, fake... we did that in the last few week of boot. from there I was off to the School of Infantry (SOI) San Onofre, Camp Pendleton in California. Yeah I was a Hollywood Marine.

first action was Lebanon, did two tours there and one in Somalia. never saw a bayonet and not just because I carried a 203.

After 6 years as a 0311, grunt I re-upped as a 1371 Combat Engineer. other than a short stint as a chaser for CID that's what I did for most of my career


By the time Iraq came around I was a Gunny out at Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center, Yes I am a red had but I had cushy job, in charge of the motor pool. A Bandvagn 206 has no place to mount a Bayonet.

when I finally deployed I was with a combat engineer unit F.S.S.G. setting up FOB's. and a staff NCO... All those years and the only time I ever got to play with a bayonet was that plastic one way back in 78... call it fate, fortune, or luck but not everyone gets one ya know

reply to post by DaddyBare

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good stuff thank you for that.

reply to post by DaddyBare

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Thank you very much for that mate, I've recently got back into martial arts and this information is not only useful but interesting. S+F!

reply to post by CX

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As a matter of fact I'm working on a new thread on just why Americans should be honing their warrior skins now more than ever... and this not so new threat is not imagined. but creaping closer and closer

reply to post by butcher boy

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USN...
Between you and I
We Marines like to think of ourselves as above the Navy... But I swear every time one of my many units would depart the fine hospitality of a Naval Boat... I'd have to shake down my unit to see just what they Liberated from said boat...Much to my embarrassment

You would be truly surprised at just what an eager young Marine can stuff down his BDUs (AKA anything not nailed down)

reply to post by DaddyBare

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Well aware! I was stationed on the USS Plymouth Rock LSD 29, we hauled Marines around.

reply to post by DaddyBare

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A stroll down memory lane! Thanks much DaddyBare. I was never a marine, but contract in some of the same circles. I remember reading this long ago (I believe it was the same document, as I remember same or similar graphics), and found it useful.

I haven't been in a fight in well over 15 years, and while I believe most times I'll have the ability to defuse a potentially violent situation, I recognize that the possibility is always there. I live close to an outdoor bar, and frequently watch the interactions as the day and drinking progresses. For those reasons, I generally do my drinking -- if at all -- at home.

We men, I think more than women, even though we age and might get a tad smarter with age, still often have those primative and visceral responses to affronts, inappropriate bodily contact, insults. I tend to use humor to diffuse things, and not at all bashful of making fun of myself if it will save us both a few bruises.

I think that some folks place too much conviction upon what they "learn" in movies. I feel that at least for people here locally, some folks think confrontations are like a happy ol' western -- two guys duke it out for ten minutes and afterward buy each other drinks and all is well. I reality, these things take place quickly, and I consider them all potentially lethal, because in real life, in real situations, critical blows can be made that are life-changing. I the movies cowboys always get up and heal. In real life, lives can be lost; a fake bottle in the movies can translate to a killing blow in real life. In truth, bottles don't break easily over a person's head.

So onward we go, trying to make the best of things, avoid stupid conflicts, and all the while perhaps analyzing our responses to insult and perceived injuries, in hope that we eventually become better people.

"I don't take _ _ _ _ from NObody!!!" yeah, well....... I do, and I will, because I am a real man who has responsibilities and dreams that might be truncated by an idiot I let get under my skin who is better than me. If something wet and red pops in my head and I let loose, then it is my misfortune, because I think myself better than to fight a person over anything less than a direct threat to myself or my family.

I am not a badass, nor have I ever been. It's said that everyone has a limit, and I suppose that's true, but for the love of humanity, can we at least ponder the consequences of our actions? Certainly, if you are mugged without the opportunity of surrendering your worthless cash, then a response has to be made. Certainly there are situations for which a person should be practiced that require a lethal action.

Let's just not do such things because we've romanticized hand-to-hand conflict, though. Sometimes it seems to me that everybody wants to be a ninja warrior. Let me tell you true -- it don't pay de bills.

Good thread! thanks again

reply to post by argentus

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You bring up a very good point a lot of folks miss...
we don't train to be stone cold killers
we train so we don't live in fear. for ourselves friends and family.

There's always someone bigger better and badder, (Younger too).
But to walk the streets without fear, that my friends is priceless

[edit on 29-3-2010 by DaddyBare]

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