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posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:27 PM
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What happened to Pen is Mightier Than the Sword?

There are many ways to defeat the NWO.

The best way is to out smart them.




posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Dock9
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Americans have never felt the tread of enemy boots on their soil, have they

Sure, they've BEEN the enemy

but always 'over there', 'somewhere else'


Will be interesting to see how Americans cope if the boot's on the other foot

remembering of course, that the days of hand to hand are over

Nukes on the major cities and that will be that. Power, communications, water --- all will be cut off

and it will be hand-to-hand then, with American against American for scraps of food and water

When the enemy hints it might begin releasing water and food

Americans will stand obediently in line with their hands out

and that will be that

barely a shot fired

and Americans handing over their guns in return for a loaf of bread and holding out their arm for the chip

The new warfare. And it won't be like those 'true to life' video games



Again, the nerve it takes to tell me that I do not have any idea about people, and then represent yourself as though you know EXACTLY how it would happen, what people would do, etc. Just plain hypocritical and naive(and not very bright).

Sure, part of the population would be absolutely at a loss as to what to do in a SHTF scenario. But again, to represent things as though every single person in this country would lay down, that none have the instincts to survive, that providing for oneself is out of the question, well, it's truly not even worth the time to respond if that is your mindset.

As far as your video game comment, you are simply proving my point. You are so full of yourself that you assume everyone is out there wasting their days playing games.



Edit to add: Also, to say that foreign troops have never marched on american soil goes even further to show you are out of your league here, and dont know your history.

[edit on 18-3-2010 by captaintyinknots]



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by zarp3333
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YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. The fight is already raging and the NWO is doomed to fail.


I tend to agree. It's easy to be brave when you're dropping bombs from unmanned aerial vehicles on an enemy armed with slingshots. When these guys find themselves outnumbered and outgunned they'll turn tail and run. They have a real phobia about a violent uprising, or maybe it's not so irrational after all.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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It's actually a move in society that is being promoted by its idea, to implement the neccessary neurological links in peoples minds to prepare them for the right moment that will trigger the neurological links to work in action, it can be both physical or based on the psyche's percepion.

This is something that would really sooth the comfort in the person/lifeform that wants to have contro and has the actual power to do so.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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Bravo My Friend, Bravo!

Funny thing is people like this HyperionMartin will be the first to go when SHTF.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:52 PM
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Well, I have to unfortunately admit that I've never been in a combat situation. I have no idea how I'll react, but I doubt I'll be in the lucky 2%. The OP said they were going to talk about ways to "harden" your mind, so I'm waiting. At any rate, I figure I'll keep a few guns around just in case.

Just for the record though, there are an estimated 80 million gun owners in the United States. 2% of 80 million is 1.6 million. Just something to think about...



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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I have another viewpoint or angle on why most won't fight the NWO.

I was driving home from work today and listening to NPR discussing the airport body scanners and the Christmas bombing attempt over Detroit, not far from me. Now, I tried to follow that story from different sources and try to get an accurate picture of what led up to this. And what I have concluded, along with others, based on reliable witnesses, is that this attack was staged. The attacker was escorted on board without passport. The "sharp dressed man" was briefly in the MSM as we all know, and you can research this yourself. This SCREAMS of false flag, yet, when I hear discussions in the MSM these days about whether body scanners will work properly, or are ethical, there is never mention that this particular attack had nothing to do with security.

My point......Nobody seems to CARE! This whole false flag was given to us on a silver platter to dissect and investigate! When it becomes obvious we are being manipulated on a mass scale, I wonder if most will remain in denial because of the biggest PHOBIA of all....the fear of truth. The fear of their little world of make believe collapsing into little bitty pieces!! Ugh!!

IMO, we don't need to face bullets if everyone starts to call BS on this crap...including those who are within agencies themselves. Investigations should be in full swing by now....but noooooo. WTF.

I'd like to add: this applies to ATS members especially, including myself, since this is the focus of the thread. Many if not most on this site are MSM folks in all professions who have a secret curiosity about conspiracy's, or, are in agencies monitoring CTers and what they are saying. 'nuff said.

[edit on 18-3-2010 by empireoflizards]



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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A great discussion we're having here....but it's just like all the others.

All we ever do on this site is go round in circles.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:01 PM
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I think the OP over-simplified things a little too far and seemed to imply that you were either a true warrior or a pussy, it reminded me a lot of the "dicks vs. assholes vs. pussies" speech from team america, which actually holds a certain amount of water - as does the OP but ultimately it's about fight or flight, nowadays most people have been brought up in such a way that a dangerous situation is more likely to trigger the flight response than the fight, it doesn't mean they're pussyo, it just means they've been raised differently and frankly there is a time and place for running with your 'tail between your legs'.
Most people can be re-trained, I eagerly await the OPs literature on 'hardening' up your mind.
The weekend warriors turning this into a survivalist pissing competition crack me up, the other day some guy posted about how he would kill children when he steals their parents resources in a SHTF scenario as if this proved that HE was a REAL tough survivalist badass. Posts like this I print out, laugh at and then wipe my arse with because actually, it just makes you a nonce and ultimately when law and order breaks down people like you are very high on a lot of real badasses hit lists.

regards,

Arkady.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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I am not disagreeing with you at all here, these are all valid points but I know for a fact that it is not only the military personnel and people that have been involved in combat that would fight for their lives. There is definitely a large amount of people (small percentage overall) that have not been in war or any circumstances like it that will stand up against whomever might be trying to "take over", or so to speak. What you may be forgetting is the people in this world who, well, just don't care about seeing a dead body, or someone being killed. Think about all of those sick, twisted websites that are filled with videos and images of people dying or already dead. I AM DEFINITELY NOT one of those people. I am just stating a point. Although i like to believe that i wont completely give in straight away if NWO does take place... Better to die fighting than to become a coward and die anyway...



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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LOL this actually made me a little angry when i first read it because because that 2% is very small and i might not fall into that % so you are basicly saying i'm all bark and no bite. but then i thought about it and i don't think that it would play out just like that. people do adapt just as earlier posts have said and even if the situation is a combat or hostage situation type ordeal it wouldn't matter in the end I think. the reason being is that with so much knowledge and information out there i think it would be difficult to allow people to take it away by force in one fell swoop no step by step and systematicly is different (which is happening now). for your scenario to work one would either have to kill mass amounts of people until there is no one to oppose them or have a incredibly clever plan to make the masses believe that what's happening is what needs to happen (this is also happening and yes it works to some extent but not very clever if you ask me, simple example: the internet) anyways i would like to see a scenario like that play out just to see what would happen. I think we would all be suprised at how many people would actually stand up and fight.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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What a load of speculative garbage.

2nd.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:11 PM
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Why will we fight the nwo? It was planned in 1954. No need fighting it



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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I KNOW you are a tool glory hog like the majority of the military and without your weapons are just as small as everyone else.

Seriously how conceited can you be mate? Army boys aren't invincible against the general pop. and I'll bet 100 bucks I could kick your ass in the ring even though I'm not from the army. There are more types of training then simply basic and highly over rated military training. And ordinary people every day do extra-ordinary things.

In an NWO scenario it will most likely be you sheep grunt types the general pop. are fighting against, so see you soon little man.


PROPAGANDA MACHINE.

[edit on 18-3-2010 by Occy Anonymous]



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:21 PM
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I think your underestimating the human spirit. Your examples put them in a controlled environment confined. We may run, but it will lead to when we stop running and eventually fight back. Soldiers were human first. Can an American soldier really turn on American people??

Always remember, the people in power are in power because of the people.

Like all leader it is about persuasion. To hear ideals, to fight for justice, and to move on to prosperity. To keep a lie circulating in control will keep them in power. Eventually this information war will lead to the lost of their powers because the truth is absolute. When no one will follow them, how would they get their agenda accomplished? How would their money or credibility hold value to the population when exposed??

There are 2 types of war to be fought, one on the streets, and one in our minds. Propaganda.

Leaders win the people by a justice of their own accord, hidden in the honor of humanitarian.


Remember:

ter·ror·ism
–noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.

[edit on 18-3-2010 by Sly_U]



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:23 PM
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Are you serious in your comments and did you intentionally read wrong?

What i meant was that i would shoot someone, if the situation absolutely need it. If anyone shoots at someone, he deserves to be shot or taken to court if he immediately surrenders (like if it was an accident). This does not imply that the one being "the justice" and stopping a killer from going on a killing spree should be shot. Using force is only allowed for self defense, and it is self defense to take out a killer.

Try relate to the following situation: 2 people start to fight on the street, the other one goes lifeless and the first one continues punching and kicking him. My first reaction would be to punch out the dude doing these sick things. I doubt anyone would say this is wrong? Same goes with guns. How you play is how you can expect to be treated.

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posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:25 PM
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I have seen men like you all over the world, and guess what; you get arrested or dead. So unless you are a real soldier, part of the real 2% don't even bother responding to this aggressively because we can sniff you out and you bore us.


Men like you are killed daily by peasents....were do you get off talking like your at a Old folks home.

Im no army guy but if I came to get you, there wouldnt be nothing you can do about it, period. You sir are a complete moron


Will we win of course we will....10,000 against millions, I would hate to be you...
really. You are just Military whipped, why yes its exactly like being pussy whipped. 15 years in Jail taught me to take NO PRISONERS, and I will if it ever came down to it, even the score if my life is at stake.

TELL ME SOMETHING, DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE? THESE CAMEL JOCKY"S WITH NO EDUCATION IS MOWING THE U>S ARMY DOWN.why wont you be one of the dead? Your a crackpot
Theres a old saying"Let them kill each other"
Fact is your numbers are dwindling, and this is the very reason that this corrupt goverment must be stopped and all there employees put in jail and or executed like the good ol days.
I'll remember what you said "Soldier" but you didnt do no justice for your cause,WE ARE NOT INTIMIDATED BY YOU.






[edit on 18-3-2010 by colt122]



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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The NWO has been talked about for centuries...and nothing has happened...I'm not convinced that there is an NWO conspiracy, but if there is then I know why people on here won't fight...because nothing will happen within out lifetimes!!!



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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Do any of you really believe that the psycopaths behind the NWO will just go away? They control both the media and the military in most countries. They have the money, resources, and power to do whatever they want, whenever they want. Does anybody believe they will just walk away from it without a fight? I don't think they will and I don't think dissent in the form of protesting is going to create the desired effect. There are way too many sheep who will bow down to them in the false hope that it will save their asses. These people are playing for real and have no qualms about taking out anybody that gets in their way.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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still...2% of 300 million...

thats 6 million strong. Not a bad start as far as standing armys go.






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