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Topic started on 18-3-2010 @ 06:32 AM by ModernAcademia

Trial opens in Portland, with Boy Scouts accused of hiding pedophiles


www.oregonlive.com
A civil trial that opened Wednesday in Portland will show that the Boy Scouts of America knew it had child molesters in its leadership for decades but kept the problem quiet, according to an attorney for one of the victims

The case, expected to attract national attention, centers on a Portland man who confessed to Scout leaders that he had molested 17 Scouts but was allowed to continue joining boys in Scouting activities

Boy Scouts of America attorney Charles T. Smith said he would call ex
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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 08:22 AM by nik1halo
Originally posted by fizzy1
Wow lets see here, BOYscouts and pedophiles eh? People are you really that suprised by this. I mean if i wanted food i would go to a store. If i was one of these creeps i would go where the targets are. SO why and i mean seriously why arent we as a society more in tune about this. You know that pedophiles dont go to porn shops they go to the playgrounds. If you want to find a pedophile just go where the kids go cause thats where they are. So it only makes sense to check every individual out with a fine tooth comb who is involved in the lives of our children. If you want the priveledge of working with kids in any aspect be it scouting or school or daycare etc etc then be ready to submit to psychiatric eval and a thorough screening of your past using some serious background fbi type search.

If you have nothing to hide then your should not be worried by this.

Common sense just isnt so common and i think that these people who harbor such filth need to be heald accountable for the actions of these individuals as well. Just my thought.


I don't know what the rules are over there in the States, but here in the UK, you already have to undergo certain police checks in order to go anywhere near kids in an official capacity. Dependant on the level of contact you have with the kids will depend on how intimate the checks are. I've had to go through it, as I work in a college, where there are people from 14 years old upwards, even though I have little or nothing to do with them.

Unfortunately, as has been found out over here, these checks are not 100% effective and some will always slip through the system.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 09:39 AM by doogle
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That's probably because the CRB checks and similar only catch reoffenders, not first time offenders or people who've never been caught before. All they're really good for is to make sure you're not employing a known offender.


reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 10:04 AM by nik1halo
reply to post by doogle



Very true, this has always been my stance on them. They are pointless. You can never know if someone is a sex offender until they get caught and many paedophiles are very intelligent and manipulative people.

I would also like to add to the previous 2 posters, who say that paedos search out positions of trust. This is not necessarily true. Many paedos try to avoid kids as much as possible in order to avoid temptation. They are not all predatory. Like your generalisations about the Boy Scouts and Priests, you cannot say that they are all the same.

I have a friend, who works as a social worker with kids and we have discussions on this topic quite often. He recons that most paedos simply end up taking advantage of the situations that they might find themselves in and act without control. But, given the choice without that temptation in front of them and a clear head, they would much prefer to avoid the situation to begin with, not out of guilt or empathy for the child, because they don't have any, but out of self preservation, so as to not get into the position of getting caught in the act.

But, there are also the predatory types, the types that only watch porn and would never personally act and the ones that simply think about it. The latter type, although not breaking any laws are often too scared to seek any kind of help (if there is any) and often elvolve to more active roles, but not always.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 05:00 PM by samhouston1886
reply to post by ModernAcademia



There is only one guaranteed way to make a serial child molester safe.

z.about.com...'


The crimes of the elites always have a light penalty.

In Bensonhurst Brooklyn the neighborhood Fathers would openly beat pedophiles in the street when I was growing up, now they coddle them and give them free drugs.

Do a search of your area and you will be shocked, is it any wonder their numbers have exploded?

Yes I know most abusers were abused and all I can say is too bad so sad.
Our children should not have to share a world with scum like this.


reply posted on 1-4-2010 @ 03:11 AM by fizzy1
OMG i dont beleive what i just read. We got one person who almost sounds like they are trying to drum up support for pedophiles. Jeesh man cmon. I mean to classify these kinds, i dont give a good sunny jesus crap what types there are and that they want to avoid it. I highly doubt they truly want to avoid it. Yes pedophiles seek out kids. Most of them do. Talk to a cop for christ sake. Oh and to the guy who says my soul is dirty then so be it brotha cause i would rip the fool in half that hurt my kid. Slowly, methodically and premeditative. Send my ass to jail so be it but that f'er wont hurt another kid. Yeah i know i dont want to leave my son either and end up in jail but it has nothing to do with my soul being dirty it has to do with my anger getting the best of me. Trust me i know i would take the life of the guy who sexually assaults my kid if i had the chance. Oh and speaking of GOD! So you think god took care of him for ya huh? Explain one thing then, where the hell was god when he was sexually assaulting you kid?

I love when people get on the god thing. God lets crap happen to good and bad alike if there is a god at all. Thats another topic i know but seriously there is a issue with these people and i am not a puppet of the media. All you need to do is look on the sex offender data base and see how many live near you. There are so many dots on my map in houston where i live its sickening.

All i am saying is that the ones who are repeat offenders seek out places to find kids. If they didnt and they were all avoiding kids then why the hell are they repeating their offences? I never thought i would find someone on any forum who defended these jerks. Oh and btw i was almost a victim of such a person when i was a kid. My quick thinking saved me. My dad wanted to kill the guy and he never touched me, he just tried. My mom stopped my dad so he didnt kill the guy, but he did go on to molest more boys in the future. He was in and out of prison for many years and never stopped. Oh wait yeah he stopped eventually. He died a very old man. No god around at all to save anyone from that. God let him live a long full life and he got to pleasure himself on many young boys.

Get a clue people before you type another word. JEESH!!

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