Amazing analysis of Kubrick's film "Eyes Wide Shut", page 1

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Topic started on 18-3-2010 @ 02:39 AM by litmuspaper

This video analysis touches on a lot of things in the film that could be suggesting the reality of secret societies like the Illuminati.

Very interesting, I'm linking to it and not embedding because it contains nudity.

So be warned: THIS VIDEO IS NOT WORK SAFE, IT FEATURES NUDITY AND SEX ACTS.

www.youtube.com...

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 02:43 AM by zerbot565

Rob ager does wonderfull work in the psycoanalytical department , i suggest everyone with some free time to spend a few moments and enjoy his work.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 02:45 AM by mblahnikluver

Could you tell us things it points to? It would be nice to hear what you think about what it says. I have seen the movie and just within the last two weeks. It was odd and interesting. I cant stand Tom Cruise so I had to force myself to watch but I see it referenced a lot on this site and I always wondered why.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 03:15 AM by Doomsday 2029

Most disturbing movie I've ever seen... It's almost as if I personally witnessed the Illuminati's sex ritual.

Sometimes it's just better to remain ignorant on certain subjects, because I really don't want to know what these devils do behind closed doors (these images can stay with you)

Kubrick really does do some interesting work however.

Some people tend to think Space Odyssey 2001 foreshadowed elements of 9/11.

forum.prisonplanet.com...

I don't know man... those are some weird coincidences. (Not to mention he got the year right on his movie title.)

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 03:31 AM by litmuspaper

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
Could you tell us things it points to? It would be nice to hear what you think about what it says. I have seen the movie and just within the last two weeks. It was odd and interesting. I cant stand Tom Cruise so I had to force myself to watch but I see it referenced a lot on this site and I always wondered why.

I think the most eye catching thing to me in the film, once I got it on DVD and analyzed it myself, was the references mentioned in this video analysis to pagan rituals and sun deities. I find it interesting because several popular works of literature and film reference the same rituals and deities, which doesn’t necessarily point to a conspiracy, but it definitely shows that people in Hollywood and novelist have developed an interest in such things and it makes me wonder why.

I tend to be a fan of the idea of people of high status experiencing a god-like or perhaps imaginary spiritual high from taking part in things the average person can’t, to a degree. I think there’s a fair amount of high status people out there that consider acts of depravity the ultimate orgasmic experience because they can get away with it on a level normal people can’t.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 03:32 AM by warpcrafter

I have a mental block when it comes to people with thick foreign accents, which made it impossible for me to understand what the narrator was saying. It's my theory that this has something to do with my dyslexia, but that's just my personal suspicion. I did sense that Kubrick at least used secret societies as inspiration for this particular film. Other than that, I wasn't able to watch any more because trying to puzzle out that accent gave me a massive headache.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 03:36 AM by litmuspaper

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The novella the book was based on deals with our perception of reality and how many of us go through life without waking from the “dream” of what we think our reality is versus what it really is. This and secret societies are mainly what the video addresses and this information can also be easily looked up if you search “Eyes Wide Such” on google.

Edit to add a site for you: lovepile.tripod.com...

I haven't read this one because the font colors drive me nuts but the content looks promising.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 03:51 AM by star in a jar

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Agreed, though if their rituals involve forced acts or the underaged, they must be charged with crimes. Even if they do horrible things it cannot be ingored or swept under the rug.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 03:55 AM by litmuspaper

An interesting perspective on Dr. Ziegler that I don’t recall the video addressing:

The character of Dr. Ziegler (who represents the high wealth and prestige to which Bill Harford aspires) is entirely an invention of the film, having no counterpart in the novella at all. Critic Randy Rasmussen interprets Ziegler as representing the worst demonic potential of Bill, much as in other Kubrick films where the Dr. Strangelove character represents the worst of the American national security establishment in Doctor Strangelove, Charles Grady represents the worst of Jack Torrance in The Shining, and Quilty represents the worst of Professor Humbert in Lolita.
en.wikipedia.org...

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 03:56 AM by zerbot565

kubrick knew something he couldent say directly, its portried in every film he made,

the vail of silence between characters,
them that know and them that dont know
thouse that rule and thouse that get ruled

a silenced genius.

eyes wide shut is the only film he made that hasent a directors cut, his intended version so to say and the version that is out there for rent is the version "the studio" made not kubrick.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:04 AM by litmuspaper

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eyes wide shut is the only film he made that hasent a directors cut, his intended version so to say and the version that is out there for rent is the version "the studio" made not kubrick.

Didn’t his brother in law or someone close to him denounce claims that he was unhappy with the film? Far as I know, yes, the studio censored the film because of its length and scenes that would have given it a NC-17 rating if they were anymore graphic. Though Kubrick might not have wanted that my understanding is he was happy with the edited version of the film.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:17 AM by zerbot565

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it is a coin toss as to what to belive kubricks real feelings where about the film ,
in my opinion i bet it was personaly offending to someone inside the "production" hense why they removed parts ,

the irony of it all is the "happiness is at the end of the rainbow" thing.

kubric being the bearded man in the custome shop selling his daugther "movie" to japanese buissness men only for a coin when they could have gotten a costume and gone to a orgie fest.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:29 AM by BreakinThEwaLL

hollywood is a cult itself...called the cult of dionysus.
used to control "the norm" or whats contemporary to people.
i think eyes wide shut is portraying the cult itself because they used to wear mask in the days of ancient greece and rome when they performed.

heres a website about it...scroll down to the beatles picture if you want to read about the cult...the whole thing is a good read though.
thestygianport.blogspot.com...

theres also a song by the orion experience called cult of dionysus.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:34 AM by ofhumandescent

Doomsday 2029 summed it up best IMO

Sometimes it's just better to remain ignorant on certain subjects, because I really don't want to know what these devils do behind closed doors (these images can stay with you)

Very disturbing movie, very well made, but I personally didn't like it.

Had a bad feeling about it.

The real pornography in this film is in its lingering depiction of the shameless, naked wealth of millennial Manhattan, and of its obscene effect on society and the human soul. National reviewers' myopic focus on sex, and the shallow psychologies of the film's central couple, the Harfords, at the expense of every other element of the film-the trappings of stupendous wealth, its references to fin-de-siecle Europe and other imperial periods, its Christmastime setting, even the sum Dr. Harford spends on a single night out-says more about the blindness of the elites to their own surroundings than it does about Kubrick's inadequacies as a pornographer. For those with their eyes open, there are plenty of money shots.

...it shows us that these people are empty and amoral, using their social inferiors as thoughtlessly as if they were possessions, ultimately more concerned with social transgressions like infidelity than with crimes like murder--just as the film's audience is more interested in the sex it was supposed to be all about than the killing that is at its core.

www.visual-memory.co.uk...

The brief quote above is just part of a really asute analysis of Kubrick's movie.

Again, for me a disturbing film, not because of the sex if you can call it that. The people were, to me more zombie like, dead inside, no soul, almost pocessed by ? (and I don't believe in "the devil").

A most strange and sad film.

A lot of mannequins and masks - to me symbolizes dehumanazation of the individual into that of a object.

I didn't even see the whole film, couldn't stand to submerge myself in that mire for a full 159 minutes.

Now, read Brice Taylor's book, "Thanks for the Memories", some of what she wrote about is supported by Kubick's "Eyes Wide Shut".

Mind Control, Rituals, Kundalini energy and it's connection with those not quite human.

Like vampires, only these don't drink blood.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:37 AM by BreakinThEwaLL

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what did you mean by this...
the irony of it all is the "happiness is at the end of the rainbow" thing.

kubric being the bearded man in the custome shop selling his daugther "movie" to japanese buissness men only for a coin when they could have gotten a costume and gone to a orgie fest.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:47 AM by litmuspaper

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Yeah, it’s depressing but I don’t think it was wrong for the movie to not focus on the murder because otherwise Kubrick’s point wouldn’t be made. It’s supposed to show people for what they are, it’s supposed to be honest about how soulless and shallow we’ve become. The lack of redeeming qualities is what makes the film so realistic and dreamlike at the same time, because people don’t want to believe that this is what reality is, people don’t want to “wake up”, they want their eyes to remain shut.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:53 AM by Dark Ghost

The website where those videos come from has been in my bookmarks for a while. It is a great site that gives many fascinating analyses on a range of movies.

Rob Ager's film analysis page is the section for written and video discussions.

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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:56 AM by litmuspaper

Originally posted by Dark Ghost

Rob Ager's film analysis page
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Wonderful site. Thanks!

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 04:59 AM by Solar.Absolution

S&F!!! I'm going to have to watch this after I get home from work but I've always been fascinated with this movies esoteric imagery and I can't wait to see this analysis!

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 05:22 AM by 1984hasarrived

This site has a very detailed and comprehensive text analysis of the movie as well - I read it ages ago, and was very impressed by the detail.

A very disturbing and thought provoking movie.

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