who do you believe? aliens/schneider?? etc, page 1
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reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 12:59 AM by Arbitrageur
reply to post by jumpingbeanz


Well I think Schneider couldn't have done what he claims to have done in 17 years, he had at least probably at least 25 years worth of education and jobs during 17 years, as I pointed out here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I know you said no links to other threads but I don't feel like retyping the whole thing. He's lying about his education and work experience for sure, so most likely, everything else too.



reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 01:00 AM by Tamale_214
reply to post by jumpingbeanz



Jumping Beanz.

There is no no-nonsense absolute objective proof of these theories. That is the truth.

However, the more that you examine the world we live in, the more you will see that there are institutions that we ought to trust that we cannot. That our governments are in collusion with corporations who are willfully suppressing knowledge and technologies that would uplift the human race. That globally, markets and financial systems are being manipulated, that wars are being fought without rational cause that there are a select few who are in the great power positions of this world.

The more that you examine these and other notions, ask yourself: To what end? For money? Those who have the most have enough to last countless generations. For Powers? It seems to me that they already have that. You will find yourself increasingly confused.

Now examine the secret societies (freemasons, skull and bones, illuminati etc) Without question, these institutions exist, and they exist specifically to control the dissemination of information throughout history, to withhold it from some, and impart it to others...at their sole choosing. But to what end?

Those nutjobs who claim that the illuminati are exposing themselves in movies and in architecture, music and the media are right. Symbolism is everywhere. But to what end? A practical joke? To what end?

Crop circles (and now snow circles) in dizzyingly exotic designs exist, many are man made, some seem not to be, but even if they are all man made...ask yourself to what end?

Understand that there seems to be a concerted effort to confuse people, people like you an people like me. Ask you self again, to what end?

Most of these facts make little sense all by themselves, so start trying to put them together, to make the logical leaps that will be necessary, to search and search and search.

As long as you keep asking yourself "to what end", you will eventually begin to draw a conclusion. Perhaps then you will understand what I believe, perhaps not.

Kind Regards,
Tamale.

edit: In deference to the previous poster, I am not knowledgeable of Phil Schneider's work and cannot speak to his credibility, however I understand the essence of his conclusions and many of them are shared by many other people with varying levels of credibility.

[edit on 18-3-2010 by Tamale_214]


reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 01:21 AM by Bob Down Under
Originally posted by jumpingbeanz
he has mentioned and predicted things too...


""The best thing to do is about 5 yrs of research on the subject then after you have sorted out the thousands of statements and claims mixed up with the crap then it will all fall into place.
""quote

what kinda things fall into place??

also i found this.....
www.bonus36.com...

[edit on 18-3-2010 by jumpingbeanz]





Well who is scamming off the subject ie making money out of thier bull# claims and there are a few of those guys around.

Stick to the famous researched reports from the Military and the sane public.

Oh!! I will give u a hint?

If you see a topic with letters GFL (Galatic Federation of Light) or ashtar Command just move as this was made up by redundent ex tree hugging Hippies now turnet Et huggers.



reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 01:21 AM by Bob Down Under
Originally posted by jumpingbeanz
he has mentioned and predicted things too...


""The best thing to do is about 5 yrs of research on the subject then after you have sorted out the thousands of statements and claims mixed up with the crap then it will all fall into place.
""quote

what kinda things fall into place??

also i found this.....
www.bonus36.com...

[edit on 18-3-2010 by jumpingbeanz]





Well who is scamming off the subject ie making money out of thier bull# claims and there are a few of those guys around.

Stick to the famous researched reports from the Military and the sane public.

Oh!! I will give u a hint?

If you see a topic with letters GFL (Galatic Federation of Light) or ashtar Command just move on as this was made up by redundent ex tree hugging Hippies now turned Et hugging Hippies.




[edit on 18/3/10 by Bob Down Under]



reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 01:49 AM by jumpingbeanz
reply to post by Arbitrageur


schneider was talking about haarp

now i found this

The E1 component is produced when gamma radiation from the nuclear detonation knocks electrons out of the atoms in the upper atmosphere. The electrons travel in a generally downward direction at relativistic speeds (more than 90 percent of the speed of light). This essentially produces a large pulse of electrical current vertically in the upper atmosphere over the entire affected area. This electrical current is acted upon by the Earth's magnetic field to produce a very large, but very brief, electromagnetic pulse over the affected area.[16]

could he be right?


reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 02:00 AM by Arbitrageur
reply to post by jumpingbeanz


Nuclear bombs create EMPs, that's a known fact. What little I've studied HAARP it might be able to create a local EMP. I accidentally created a small EMP at my house that accidentally erased some hard drives of mine, but it probably didn't have any effect outside a radius of about 5 feet. If I can do it by accident, it's not that hard to do, but so what?

If HAARP creates an EMP it will obey the same inverse square law as my mini-EMP did, meaning the effect drops off dramatically with the distance and HAARP is in the middle of the boonies, so, I'm not too worried about it if it does make an EMP, it won't affect me or 98% of the other people on the planet, though maybe some people who live in the area might be affected.

If it happened I think it would be an accident, I don't think it's designed to do that, but cars aren't designed to catch on fire. Sometimes they do. Accidents can happen.
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