Teachers trained to spot young terrorists, page 1

Is someone completely out of their minds?

Who the heck is getting this pushed through?

Am I in the right country?

This is not being paid for by the council, this is coming from the council tax that us citizens are forced to pay. You know, the same council tax money that was lost when that overseas bank collapsed..

The Department for Children, Schools and Families said a similar national scheme was already in place for teachers.

"It tells how to recognise who could potentially be coerced into extremism," the Government spokesman added.

Just what is exactly going on in the UK?
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Looks like the only thing George Orwell got wrong was the date.
tinks, plymouth

I actually read this in the newspaper today, (issued on todays date the 17th) yet this is available to read online from the 15th.

Can any self respecting teacher agree to do such a thing as to monitor and watch children for potential terrorist tendencies?
Who the heck has the right to be a judge of our children when they are supposed to be being taught?

This has got me right riled up...


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[url=http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Teachers-trained-spot-young-terrorists/article-1911263-detail/article.html]Teachers trained to spot young terrorists

[edit on 17-3-2010 by Extralien]

reply to post by Kram09

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Someone seems to be instilling fear into the kids..
This fear will grow into suspicion.
This could be nurtured into the pupils growing up and watching everyone, eventually to become the so called 'thought police'.

These children in these British schools may be nothing more than guinea pigs. Part of a test to see who grows up to be the type of child we see in 1984.

Able to spot a thought crime from miles away.

reply to post by Kram09

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I don't think so.

I think this is more to do with tracing family ties. If a child has 'traits', then it could mean they are getting them from somewhere, ie, home.

All children, the world over, are blisfully unaware of things like racism etc. It only becomes obvious to them when it is pointed out, overheard or made an issue of.

Those sorts of things does not make them terrorists, neither does it make the kids who were verbally/physically attacke by other kids, become terrorists.

The religious connection (as mentioned in the news article) is a main cause IMO. Stop teaching religion at school, let the children decide for themselves what to believe in.

This is all to do with order and control. Setting up a stage for observation, seperation and intelligence.
It just sits so deep into pyschological profiling.. It's like someone has sat there and worked out ways in order to decide who is a good or bad person in accordance to a set of rules..

this stinks of a similar historical issue, the murder of several million jews, because they were jewish.
A complete field study was done on Romany children as well...
This reeks of a 'same scenario'

McCarthyism

I think that just about describes it.

The machinations of fear, by the machine, for the machine. Without an enemy to focus on, people would have far too much time on their hands to be able to think about how ridiculously absurd the manufactured "work, buy, consume, die" society we live in really is.

reply to post by Extralien

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At the conference teachers will be told to monitor any youngsters who are making 'unusual' comments, or whose families appear to be living 'on society's fringe', the Government said.


It will be the first of its kind to be held in Great Britain and is being funded by the council as part of the Home Office's anti-terror strategy.

First off, 'Society's fringe'? Could we get that clarified? Gypsies? Rural areas? Housing estates? Conflicting views with the government(what)?

A BETTER SOCIETY FOR A BETTER FUTURE!

I can see the posters now.

Anti-terror strategy is another interesting one. Enemy belligerents, get them whilst their young!

There are too many similarities at the moment to be coincidence, just my opinion of course, but there you are.

Cornwall Council's religious education adviser David Hampshire said: "Just because we are in Cornwall and it feels we are far away from everywhere this agenda is still important to us in preventing violent extremism and should be core to education.

"Religious education has a particular role to play in getting people to question very extremist narratives."

Indifferent to religion? Show an interest in 'exotic religions, ideas, concepts'? Extremist narrative is a very broad idea and entirely subjective, will teachers question what they are told to look out for? Or follow blindly under a veil of psyche profiling?

The Department for Children, Schools and Families said a similar national scheme was already in place for teachers.

"It tells how to recognise who could potentially be coerced into extremism," the Government spokesman added.

Potentially. Could that not be considered as a thought crime?

Innocent until proven guilty?

EMM


[edit on 17-3-2010 by ElectroMagnetic Multivers]

reply to post by neformore

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And that is what appears to be happening..
Create a fear in order to keep up appearances..

They said the war on terror would be a long one.. The only way it can be like that is if they create more threats.

the more this type of thing raises its ugly head, then the more we will see the conditioning of our young.. and this will spread...

They constantly throw something at us in order to keep us from thinking for ourselves, to stop us rising up against the machine and throwing one huge spanner in the works..

reply to post by ElectroMagnetic Multivers

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Just whose future do they wish to make better?
When were we ever asked what type of future we would like?

Many teacher will do as they are told, no matter how far fetched it is. They will do this in order to keep their jobs. Many teachers become teachers because they feel they want to pass on something beneficial.

Unfortunately they are passing on the same old tripe that was passed on to us as school kids. Yet, today, this tripe has added flavours and man made sweeteners

Potentially, yes.

Cornwall...... Well it is a hot bed of terrorist activity - The CRA (Cornish Republican Army... or the Farmer Bin Ladens) Have ALREADY burnt down an empty warehouse and two derelict offices. link I've been to school with people who have done more damage by accident.......

Cornwall If they like spending money on seminars I will gladly do a pasty appreciation one for a mere £2,000 per session. It will involve all involved eating a lot of pasties with topics such as mitigation of pasty breath, which pasties have the structural integrity to facilitate consumption while driving or walking quickly - and maybe for the evening sessions (adults only) we could explore the aspects involved with bring pasties into the bedroom...

Originally posted by Extralien
reply to post by ElectroMagnetic Multivers

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Just whose future do they wish to make better?
When were we ever asked what type of future we would like?

Many teacher will do as they are told, no matter how far fetched it is. They will do this in order to keep their jobs. Many teachers become teachers because they feel they want to pass on something beneficial.

Unfortunately they are passing on the same old tripe that was passed on to us as school kids. Yet, today, this tripe has added flavours and man made sweeteners

Potentially, yes.

There's a lot of rhetorical BS in this thread.

Perhaps you could write a thread that offers a 'New Curriculum?' You could eliminate the 'same old tripe' and replace it with what you think should be taught....

Have you any idea how many people have fought to make education a right? Your posts are usually rational, respectable and interesting. This one is ill-informed, subjective nonsense.

reply to post by ElectroMagnetic Multivers

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My apologies, was in that kind of mood. Could we get your opinion on the article? I didn't like it personally.

My reply was for Extralien's response to your post. I support Now_Then's perspective...chuckling amusement and head-shaking. £3500 would book out the Cornwall Civic Centre, fund a few sandwiches and maybe pay appearance money for the consultant. Throw in a few leaflets too. It's hardly the first steps towards the schools of 3rd Reich Germany...

In my experience, teachers can be very good when observing child protection issues. Often the first concerns about a child's wellbeing originate in the classroom. If a teacher takes any of this 'young terrorist' BS seriously they were already an idiot and this won't change them.

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