There is talk of a vote where we, the people, cannot see how our representatives have voted. If this takes place, Democracy, or Democratic Republics, are dead. No longer are we a democracy, but instead, we are just like the prom. Popularity, regardless of the individual.

The system was once set up to where politicians represented the people who elected them. If they failed to represent the folks who elected them, they would be fired in an election and someone else would take their place. Now, we find our government seeking to have those who we call representatives make decisions without us, those whom they claim to represent, knowing what they're doing.

This makes the term "representative" an Orwellian lie. If they were willing to represent the people, they would be public in their lawmaking. If they, instead, wanted to represent the company, the party, without having to deal with the people, they are no longer representatives.

Abe Lincoln said we are a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. If we have a blind vote on something so paramount to Americans, no longer are we for nor by the people. We are for and by the party.

[edit on 3/17/2010 by junglejake]

[edit on 3/19/2010 by junglejake]

The speaker of the house should be impeached if she allows a private vote. How does a speaker of the house become impeached?

I somehow missed this announcement...

Who's the driving force, as if I didn't know, behind this travesty?

A blind vote? Power to the pols...because our representitive democracy is gone if this goes through...

The same way any member can be. The voters of his/her district. Or an ethics committee (an oxymoron, I know), can recommend various punishments, up to and including removal from their seat.

No longer are we a democracy

We never were a democracy...a democracy is mob rule...even the founding fathers were against the idea of a "democracy".

The system was once set up to where politicians represented the people who elected them. I they failed to represent the folks who elected them, they would be fired in an election and someone else would take their place.

And you can still do this, nothing has changed. Do you think you won't be able to find out who voted to approve this new rule? And if you don't like the way they voted on that...then don't vote for them next time.


I fail to see how this changes anything.

Representatives? Since when have they really represented the people. Last I heard from the pant loads in DC how they were going to vote their opinion and not the prevailing opinion of their district.

Town Hall meetings during a recess, but packed with people that follow their opinion and the people that opposed their prima donna personas were just "paid political activists for the other side".

Ethics? You want ethics? Make the whole body politic responsible for the actions of their brethren. One gets out of line, remove every last one of them and barr them all from ever holding a position of the public trust again. Like a political equivalent of excommunication.

Blind vote on the largest piece of legislation in over 70 years? Okay, so long as after the vote they are all executed for gross misrepresentation regardless of the outcome of the vote.

By my word of honor, if this is signed into law by a blind vote I will consider it a formal declaration of war against the American People and will raise an army to put an end to this madness my damn self.

We the public do not want the health care bill that is being forced down our throats. Since what we want does not matter it becomes evident that passing health care legislation is not about what is good for Americans, its about what is good for the insurance companies and what is good for the Democratic Party. Getting re-elected is not the concern of the Obama regime.

The Democrats selfish desire to pass this legislation has many commenting that if they pass this it that Democrats will lose many seats and if the turnover is drastic as expected, it will change how the Congress and the Senate do business in the future. Well, I don't think this matters to the Democrats and I will try to explain why.

Well I use to think that there were those that would be concerned with getting re-elected, but it has gone beyond that. What is at stake for the Democrats in the health care legislation is the fact that even if they continue to anger the public and if they manage to pass this legislation using the Slaughter ruling, then what this means to me is that if passed, what is in the legislation are elements that will allow the federal government to deal with anyone or any group that raises a campaign to undo what has been achieved by those in office.

In other words, if this health care legislation is passed it will prevent us from being able to undo it without resorting to drastic measures that many are averse to. While some States have started legislation to prevent complying with any unconstitutional legislation, I contend that it will not matter and we will see this as soon as the health care bill gets passed.

By acting the manner that Obama has chosen, he has proven he is a fraud and has deceived the public about many things that matter only to Obama and his Communist Democratic co-conspirators.

Obama's actions show us clearly that he has no regard for process of law or anything to do with what the Constitution provides. Obama views the Constitution as a hindrance to the Global World Order and as such Obama and all his Circus of Imbeciles could care less what we want or whether it is Constitutional or not.

Such action from the sitting President clearly shows he wants to dictate what we are going to get as legislation and he could care less if its not legal or moral. His actions are clearly Dictatorial and that alone should alarm every American citizen sitting at home wondering how did we get this messed up?

Obama and the Democratic Party that supports him is showing that they support Obama in his dictatorial move to shove legislation on the American public whether we want it or not. Since Obama's actions have become blatantly dictatorial, it should surprise no one that Obama is now beginning to show us just how much of would be Dictator he seeks to be. Any president that would go against the will of the people and use his party to sell the deception is exactly what he appears to be. Obama appears to be a Dictator coming out of the closet and when he comes out completely, it will be too late for us to say we disapprove.

With dictatorial behavior and with turning a deaf ear to the will of the people is enough in my mind to conclude that Obama is not qualified to be the president and by showing us his Dictatorial side, he has proven that he should be removed immediately as being not fit to represent the USA. His actions are clearly in violation of the Constitution and by that fact alone, Obama should be removed without fail.

Obama is a professional liar as is the Democratic Party and together they intend to enslave the American public and rob us of what little wealth remains by passing legislation that is illegal and not in the public's interests.

Enacting legislation without the will of the people clearly states that we the people do not matter. As such, the sooner we begin to remove the traitors within our gates the sooner we can regain some sense of decency and moral conduct in our elected representatives that will obey the will of the people, not undermine the will of the people and subvert process to achieve a goal that does not benefit the public in any way shape or form.

We deserve to have our elected representatives do what we ask. Any politician that refuses the will of the citizens it supposedly represents should be immediately removed and never allowed to serve in public office ever again.

This lack of representation and lack of concern for what matters to the American public is exactly what is wrong with politics and the sooner we address those that refuse to listen to the will of Americans, the sooner we can get back to some resemblance of true governmental representation.

It is time to show our discontent and in doing so we have to focus on the guilty that are passing this unwanted legislation. Once we do, we can begin to focus on those that need to be removed from office and sent packing to where ever they came from. We don't need dictators and we don't need representatives that do not listen to the will of the people.

Thanks for the posting.

Okay, I'm confused. Is there a link for this anywhere?

To my knowledge a "blind vote" doesn't mean you don't know how your representative voted, it means they voted on something "blindly" without reading it.

A vote where you don't know who voted how is a "secret ballot".

Little help?

(Not that the idea of a blind vote isn't outrageous, I just want to make sure my outrage is directed at the proper absurdity).

This is no different than the bailout, 15 calls against to every 1 call for it. Yet it passed. Our representatives do not represent us, only the higher business enterprises.

OP, can you give source for this news, or where do you have get info from blind vote in coming healthcare bill.

Sorry, Im not from USA...

Ignorance runs Ravid everywhere. Blind Vote, seriously?? You see this is the mob mentality always goes wrong.