Originally posted by Josephus23
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
I agree with him in the video... except so far as he kind of implies that voters should keep this in mind when November elections come. Which
essentially amounts to- "Democrats are pissing me off, I'm a mindless centrist fence-sitter, so I'm gonna stomp my feet and vote Republican!!"
Cafferty should know DAMN WELL that electing Republicans would be TEN TIMES WORSE than Democrats. Anybody with half a brain has seen the results of
what Republicans actually do and while Democrats are lying sacks of crap or ineffectual at the least, the Republicans are like the Democrats evil
twin... they are definitely NOT a sound alternative to Dems.
Could you point out exactly how it would be ten times worse?
I really do not see any difference between the two parties except presentation and delivery.
Bush started two wars and Obama has escalated them.
Obama can say whatever he wishes to say, but they are all lies.
Big fat bold faced lies.
Here are his four best.
1) I am closing Guantanamo (yeah right)
2) I am restoring Habeas Corpus (did he decide that before or after he voted to reauthorize BOTH patriot acts)
3) I am bringing the soldiers home from Iraq (Suuuuure he will. Wasn't that supposed to happen 6 months ago)
4) I am not George Bush (that was the worst lie of them all)
We have more private contractors and army personnel in BOTH wars now that Obama has taken office.
Bush spent our country into a recession and Obama is making darn sure that we stay there.
How are the two parties different exactly?
One takes less money from Goldman Sachs than the other?
[edit on 3/19/2010 by Josephus23]
I never said I fully supported Obama. I merely said that Republicans are the greater evil and should be avoided at all costs.
Trust me, if I thought Republicans were better than Democrats, I'd say so. But ultimately the two-party system, as you've said, is stale. Both
parties are essentially beholden to corporate lobbyists, even if they don't want to be. I'm sure many in the legislature are just as frustrated
about lobbying power and the state of things as we are. However, they also must play the game, and the game is a severely tainted one. Tainted by what
though? It's quite obvious- special interests, most notably- corporate/banking interests which hold the most money, power, sway, and impact on the
economy and our way of life. The problem is, our way of life is based on a sort of manic imperialism, sometimes hard, sometimes soft, definitely
modern, but definitely existing. We are the new Rome, we are essentially the fourth Reich and we've succeeded in many ways. I can't say whether
there was a grand conspiracy behind it.
I know the nature of our civilization and imperialist dominance is par for the course, since the dawn of nation-states 10,000 years ago, man has
started to dominate the environment and his fellow man. And that brings us to today... we are in an exponential hyper-amplified version of past
versions of our civilization- exponentially more power, population, resource consumption, environmental destruction, oppression, and warfare. Now,
I'm somewhat digressing... but it really all ties in, we must understand the systemic causes of the failures of our society and to do that we must
trace the history of our civilization to its roots and its inception. When you do this, it becomes quite obvious why things are so #ed up right now-
it's nothing new within our civilization... but it IS new in the grand scheme of homo sapiens and especially the rest of the lifeforms on this
The point of that was to show you somewhat where I'm coming from in my understanding of the world. And from where I'm standing, I see two parties
which are pissing everybody in the country off. Though, when I look at Republicans and have learned of all the hypocrisy, blatant religious stupidity,
xenophobia, suspicion of science and "intelligentsia", disregard for the environment as "hippie bullsh*t", being both pro-Christ and pro-war
(contradiction), the rash of poorly cloaked quasi-bigotry against blacks/immigrants/gays, the overwhelming support by Republicans (more so than
Democrats) of police-state measures, the dismantling of the constitution/civil liberties, and support for greedy corporatism/fascism, and a concerning
fascination with warfare and dominance over weaker nations. I'm NOT saying Democrats are immune from all this, but I see these alarming things far
more prevalently in the GOP and this is why I will NEVER support the GOP. I barely support the Dems because I do see many of them who are intelligent
and compassionate enough to get what's going on and want to change things, but they just never seem to get the damn job done and end up compromising
every time and just stagnating smugly in their milquetoast (far from radical) "solutions". I'm sure there are decent conservatives, Ron Paul being
one of them, Barry Goldwater as another legendary figure. But if I am to decide between the parties, from everything I've learned (and I've been
critical of both sides) the Republicans take the cake on lies, propaganda, and general political evil.
[edit on 19-3-2010 by NoHierarchy]