If there is a real threat of a NWO and its financiers (evil bankers) then what really happened to Hitler and his Germany? Wouldnt his agenda and progress at the time been a great tool to utilize to dominate the world and enslave us all? I mean, hell, JP Morgan and others were financing him so what happened? The NWO geeks had their man and their evil army to get their global government. What went wrong?

I've never been convinced that Hitler was a shill for the NWO. I think that he knew of their plan, but I don't believe he was one of their cohorts.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
I've never been convinced that Hitler was a shill for the NWO. I think that he knew of their plan, but I don't believe he was one of their cohorts.

yeah, but he could have been easily manipulated or even removed once his empire was built. It would have been a massive template to develop the NWO agenda. The military force and medical technology he was developing was far beyond its time. Most of the medical, military technology and techniques used today by the US and Israel originated from Nazi germany. If Einstein and the Manhattan project scientists hadnt defected to the US, Nazi germany would have developed the nuclear bomb. The NWO was set back decades for allowing Hitler to be defeated.


He was financed by the right people, at the right moment in history, and they were successful. Something went wrong. I have heard speculation that the NWO forces had "lost control" of Hilter. Whatever that means.



[edit on 16-3-2010 by AzoriaCorp]

Originally posted by AzoriaCorp
[ I have heard speculation that the NWO forces had "lost control" of Hilter. Whatever that means.



[edit on 16-3-2010 by AzoriaCorp]

Certainly. He caught onto the game they were playing.... Once he did that, ball game over.....

Hitler was very much part of the 'system'... I spent a lot of my life believing maybe he was not but recently I am become certain.

Nazi Germany played its part, in creating conflict, allowing Russia to Bolshevise and gain superpower status (the Tsar had failed to lead his military in WWI and the Bolsheviks rebelled and took power by force... war against Germany again gave Stalin a reason to fully industrialise in a command economy, er even more so, and their victory and production in WWII gained them superpower status, to serve as the opponent of US).

Often employees are hired for temporary basis simply to play their part and move on, Nazi Germany acted in this manner. In my psychology background I have my own opinion; in this case I believe the 'powers' discovered that force of arms and fascism could never truly win in the end. This is very true. They decided to move towards a more subtle means.

You may have heard the phrase, the truly enslaved man is the one who believes he is free, and also, if you want to enslave a man he must fully believe he is free, etc. Such is also very true. When a person believes they have adequate freedom of choice, movement, direction, etc they do not question further and succumb to a form of contentment... and so when a person believes they're living in a world they control, you can manipulate them subtly by acting through their beliefs.

For instance, you believe you're free now, free to vote, choose, pursue what career you want. But you're not. You're limited by wealth, prejudice, ability, all within the confines of the system. You think you have choice because you get to pick between republican and democrat candidates. This is merely the illusion of choice. You didnt decide anything but which of their two choices you like: this is not true freedom.

Germans were still subject to this but not so much. They KNEW they had limits set by their fascist government. And so, they had something to act against. Eventually the people would have revolted and the government collapsed (picture USSR). The Nazis wrote extensively about subjugation from within, rather than force: its the wave of the future.

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
Back in the early 80's when I was on alt.conspiracy on USENET, documents were floating around all the time on Hitler and what triggered his rise to power and WWII. From what I remember, in the early 30's during the global banking collapse, every country in the world was forced to accept a central bank and become a debtor nation (except New Zealand I think it was and that happened in 1967). Anyway, once Hitler was in power, apparently he told the banksters to go screw themselves and refused the central bank. Germany was sitting on a 20 year armistice (signed 1919) at the time and couldn't legally attack other countries to which it claimed ownership until 1939. If I remember right, the banksters tried to extort Hitler saying they would cripple Germany if he didn't accept a central reserve bank. So, apparently Hitler used the psychology of Kant and Hegel to develop an enemy and collimate the national psyche. Seeing that Hitler would not go along with the banksters plan, they sold him the rope, so to speak, to hang him with by leading him into a world war while at the same time, the banksters funded both sides and made a whack of coin.

Basically, that is what happened.In all honesty, had it not been for WW2, Europe was facing economic collapse. The German people, by the time Hitler came to power, were starving to death in the streets.

Nah, Hitler may have unwittingly played a role in the plans of the NWO, which is largely controlled by the banking system, but he didn't do it willingly. He was very much, in my opinion, against the plans of the system.

[edit on 17-3-2010 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
Hitler had an insatiable curiosity concerning the occult and artifacts and the Order of the Golden Dawn (Illuminati/Freemason organization) did have his ear.

Actually, Hitler was very Anti-Masonic.

now, he was obsessed with the "spear of destiny."

By the way, I do not believe in the Masonic conspiracy theories, but I suppose that is beside the point.

[edit on 17-3-2010 by SpeakerofTruth]