Piezoelectric Ultrasound Hydrogen fuel!!, page 1
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Topic started on 16-3-2010 @ 09:30 PM by drew hempel
This is the secret of free energy alchemy -- in meditation and now in technology:

sify.com...

Scientists harvest waste energy to turn water into usable hydrogen fuel
2010-03-12 14:50:00


Scientists harvest waste energy to turn water into usable hydrogen fuel




When pulsed with ultrasonic vibrations, the nanofibers flexed and catalyzed a chemical reaction to split the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen. When the fibers bend, asymmetries in their crystal structures generate positive and negative charges and create an electrical potential. This phenomenon, called the piezoelectric effect, has been well known in certain crystals for more than a century and is the driving force behind quartz clocks and other applications.


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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 10:28 PM by drew hempel
reply to post by polarwarrior



Yeah the Stan Meyer car also used ultrasound to create hydrogen fuel from water....

www.youtube.com...


reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 11:15 PM by drew hempel
reply to post by ALLis0NE



Yeah you can just google stan meyer ultrasound if you want to find out whether you're wrong or not:

www.youtube.com...


It is also frequency-dependent, unlike other methods where bubble action didn't depend on any magical frequencies. Here, though, the first major resonant point is around 20kHz for my cell.


www.overunity.com...

www.hielscher.com...

That's another cool example.

www.youtube.com...


reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 11:24 PM by ALLis0NE
reply to post by drew hempel



Ive been studying free energy for a very long time now. I was studying Stanley Meyer's work a long time ago too.. I even tried to replicate his basic electrolysis machine with a home made pulse width modulator.

I have NEVER heard ANYTHING about Stanley Meyers using ultrasound, because he did NOT use it. His most advanced device used a laser. Ive read his patents.

I also am a member of Overunity.com already.



reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 11:27 PM by ALLis0NE
Maybe you are mistaking Stanley Meyers for this guy who burns salt water using radio waves:

John Kanzius

..and maybe you are mistaking radio waves with ultrasound.

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fixed link

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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 11:59 PM by drew hempel
Well this links is discussing whether Stan Meyer used ultrasound -- as does the last batch of links I gave -- Stan Meyer's patent says he was making a mist which is what ultrasound also does....

www.energeticforum.com...

Yeah Stan Meyer references CIA mind control scientist Dr. Andrija Puharich in Meyer's patent -- Puharich relies on ultrasound pulses:

www.rexresearch.com...


This electronic device has a complex alternating current output consisting of an audio frequency (range 20 to 200 Hz) amplitude modulation of a carrier wave (range: 200 to 100,000 Hz).


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reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 12:26 AM by ALLis0NE
Originally posted by drew hempel
So you know about this ultrasound cold fusion technology?
sonofusionjets.com...


Yes, what about it?

Originally posted by polarwarrior
I disagree, using the older conventional physics it would appear this way. It may be possible to split using less than faradays 170 year old theories say.


Then don't use theory, and use facts from observations (science).

What you are trying to tell me is that you think it is possible to separate two magnets that are stuck together by only using another weaker magnet. That is not possible. The force holding the magnets together is the same amount of force you need to separate them (maybe more because of efficiency losses during separation).


Originally posted by polarwarrior
Or it may be possible to use a currently misunderstood energy from the environment, represented by casmir or ZPE or russian 21st century ether, to AID the split, so you do get more energy from burning the subsequent elements than YOU put into the system and hence it would appear to be much much greater than 100% efficiancy


I don't disagree with that theory, however, the keyword is APPEAR. It will only appear that you are getting more energy out than in... but in reality you are just not taking into account the energy from the environment, so your calculations would be wrong. It will NEVER be more than 100% efficient in that case.


reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 12:26 AM by drew hempel
reply to post by ALLis0NE



More ultrasonic water-fuel:

www.rexresearch.com...


When a 60-cycle current is applied, the crystals vibrate at 20,000 cycles per second, turning the reactor into a "super-blender". As shown in the diagram, oil and water (70% oil, 30% water) flow into the reactor, where a terrific vibrating force causes water and oil molecules to rupture. The two liquids form an emulsion in which tiny particles of water are dispersed throughout the oil. When this happens, says the inventor, the surface area of the water is increased millions of times. Thus, when the emulsion hits the furnace’s combustion chamber, the water "explodes" into superheated steam, adding to the energy ouput of the oil. In hundreds of tests of his system, Cottell has found that ordinary boilers run at efficiencies close to 100% -- as astounding result that neither he nor leading combustion experts can explain. In the demonstration I saw, gauges indicated that the emulsion produced the same amount of heat as a 100% oil fuel.


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reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 12:31 AM by ALLis0NE
reply to post by drew hempel



Sorry, Stanley Meyers did NOT use ultrasound. I repeat, DID NOT use ultrasound.

He just designed an "on-the-fly" hydrogen creation system using special injectors to create a "mist", and then used lasers to ionize the water and electric current to finish the job.

His car DID run on water and hydrogen, but it was actually a waste of energy. The energy he used was greater than the energy he got.



reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 12:35 AM by ALLis0NE
reply to post by drew hempel



What are you getting at?

The use of ultrasound vibrations to rearrange molecules has been known for decades.... I don't deny any ultrasound uses and abilities.. I only deny Stanley Meyers ever used ultrasound, because he didn't.

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reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 12:38 AM by drew hempel
reply to post by ALLis0NE



www.kodasplace.com...


Ultrasonic Electrolysis The above illustration shows the principle of how a combination of pulsed low voltage electricity and ultrasonic vibrations may result in the efficient production of hydrogen and oxygen gas from water. The device could be used as a constant source of hydrogen to fuel an internal combustion vehicle, or perhaps as a hydrogen injector at each cylinder. In other words, this device is intended to enable cars to use water as fuel, as well as power generators and provide essentially free, non-poluting energy for the entire world.



reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 01:06 AM by drew hempel
reply to post by ALLis0NE



h2o0il.com... -- it's near the bottom of the page:


Some Stanley Meyers: quotes: and some dialog from video sources... "So in trying to develop the technology the first area was to address how to release the hydrogen from natural water and do it economically." Experiments by the present inventors have shown that in water, a resonant response wave can be obtained at a frequency of 529 kHz. As shown in FIG. 5, the use of continuous ultrasonic waves at high energy cause extensive excitation of cavitation and thus increase the temperature to a maximum value at the resonance frequency. The location of the peak of temperature rise as shown in FIG. 5 coincides with a resonant induction of cavitation. Simultaneous measurement of the wave resulting from implosion of the cavitation bubbles, using a hydrophone transducer, showed a significant increase in amplitude at the same frequency.




We do not believe Meyer used spacers in his demo cell and he in fact allowed his tubes to ring and this acoustic component that is being overlooked by most WFC researchers. We believe Stan cut slots on the outer tubes to match the frequency of the inner and outer pipes setting up a standing acoustic wave and we are working on a cell prototype that will incorporate these features. Oleg GRITSKEVITCH (patent)" An electrostatic field, coupled with action of Barium Titanate layer (ifwe apply electrical field to Barium Titanate, then, this layer creates the sound vibrations of about 25 KHz,; this vibration helps to destroy the molecules of water). and from the same url ....."This version of the dynamo created an output averaging 6,800 amperes at 220 volts DC. Its input power was only approximately 1% of the output power."


And that last quote is hypertexted to this:

www.rexresearch.com...


reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 01:20 AM by ALLis0NE
reply to post by drew hempel



What part of "HE DID NOT USE ULTRASOUND" do you not understand?

You can post every link you want, but he didn't use ultrasound to make hydrogen! He used a laser...

Ultrasound is just that.... SOUND. Sound is just vibration of an object. There is nothing special about vibrating objects with ultrasound to create internal friction and heat.

Actually, I'll say it again..... HE USED A LASER, not sound.


reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 01:21 AM by drew hempel
reply to post by ALLis0NE



Sonoplasma from ultrasound cavitation --


www.energeticforum.com...


cross the Meyer water fuel cell...which in its crudest form is a cup of distilled water.... and you have electrodes in there of some kind... he uses "pipes" ...but they're just surface electrodes.. and I showed in the video that you can use a paper clip for one electrode and a spoon for the other.... 3 inches across the large cup...and when you turn on the high voltage... raw AC ripple filtered, unfiltered DC that it does NOT...without the ultrasonic cavitation effect of ultrasonic cleaning...does not do anything... other than suggest a few feeble bubbles on the electrodes.... but when you turn on the ultrasonics, it causes the collapsing bubbles between the electrodes...which then go into a plasma and at that state ... James... and audience.. at that state the little "speck" of plasma behaves like an "inter" electrode. At that billionth of a second.... that poor little spot...is becoming an electrode in an electrolysis condition... the voltage between the electrodes is divided in a voltage divider so that you have approximately 1.5 volts in the area of that little plasma spot....doing microscopic electrolysis... across that microscopic electrode which exists in an unfathomably small moment of time... a billionth of a second...BUT... you DO have electrolysis. The phenomenon of ultrasonic cavitation is the bubble then immediately explodes.. because if you think a minute... this cycling process by going between almost a vacuum and a plasma.... if you study sonoluminescence... and I would suggest the broader issue of sonoplasma.... it is oscillating... so that little tiny dot of plasma... after it forms electrolysis on its surface... hydrogen on one side of the potential voltage gradient... and the oxygen on the other, it is immediately exploding... and therefore the hydrogen and oxygen do not get a chance to ... in the conventional sense.. to combine."

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