I hate to poke fun at something so serious but your remark about collecting the signatures had me lmao. Can you just imagine stopping people on the street and asking them to sign something like that?

I.....IT...BUT......WHA???????


What moron would think they could get something like this passed????

If you don't like the aims of these perverts, watch out for threads in forums like this pushing their views.

They try to be subtle, pretending to be campaigning for the rights of children, and sometimes impersonating children to do so.

And then they squeeze in the sexual freedom issue, arguing that it's not fair to children to have such legal restrictions, or it's not fair to a man who makes a mistake about a person's age when picking up.

Practising paedophiles should be helped to do something useful for the world instead, such as feeding our pets. I'd volunteer to help can the bastards.

Originally posted by Kailassa
If you don't like the aims of these perverts, watch out for threads in forums like this pushing their views.

They try to be subtle, pretending to be campaigning for the rights of children, and sometimes impersonating children to do so.

And then they squeeze in the sexual freedom issue, arguing that it's not fair to children to have such legal restrictions, or it's not fair to a man who makes a mistake about a person's age when picking up.

Practising paedophiles should be helped to do something useful for the world instead, such as feeding our pets. I'd volunteer to help can the bastards.

They can come and try to feed my German Shepherd. I'm not sure if my Dog would like "Pedophile" served up to him so easily though..

Hmmmm, another MYSTERIOUS Double post..

Damn it.. How and Why do these double post's happen?

I just might have to email NASA to see if they can spend a few million dollars on finding out why this does hapopen.

However, I don't think I will have much luck because I think NASA already knows and is keeping it all, "Hushed Up". If anyone were to find out why Douple Posts actually happen, imagine what it would do to religion..
It could mean the end of Life as we know it.

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Originally posted by dalan.

Our views on children and sexuality have always been assumptions on our part.
. . . . .
We need serious research into child psychology and the impact sexuality has on them. The majority of our responses on these issues are fueled by emotion rather than sound reasoning.

Normal people don't need research to tell them their children would be harmed by sexual encounters with paedophiles.

It's only organisations such as NAMBLA and the Paedophile Party that believe adult-child sex is beneficial to the child.

- Or, at least, they try to convince us it is.

SNF Anthem

The absolute gaul. Vote Karl Mach to the Parliment. A pedophile we can trust. What kind of shizzle? Is that?. i can't believe ARE YOU KIDDIN ME?
CMON ! This isn't a hoax? WTF?

Originally posted by Kailassa
Originally posted by dalan.

Our views on children and sexuality have always been assumptions on our part.
. . . . .
We need serious research into child psychology and the impact sexuality has on them. The majority of our responses on these issues are fueled by emotion rather than sound reasoning.

Normal people don't need research to tell them their children would be harmed by sexual encounters with paedophiles.

Like I said, assumptions.

It's only organizations such as NAMBLA and the Paedophile Party that believe adult-child sex is beneficial to the child.

Assumptions by paedos...

Its just all around assumptions.

- Or, at least, they try to convince us it is.

Like I said, research needs to be done to see what aspects of sexuality would actually harm a child. My hypothesis would be that children can learn about sexuality in very healthy ways, the only problem being that we are not a "healthy" culture of individuals.

The use of force against any human being is going to hurt them, regardless of age. I have seen children that were genuinely curious about sexuality only to be spanked by their parents. That kind of behavior will also have ill-effects on children too. You're basically telling them that sexuality is not Ok, their bodies are not Ok...and we wonder why there are so many "deviants."

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I am just glad they did not Knock on my door.

Being 100% peacefull by nature and forgiving, well there are exceptions to the rule.

If a bit tipsy, or in a moment of lost mindfulness, well

They might have walked out with a signature for life.

The inability to ever produce testosterone again, and even if they could get some lead, no "Pencil" left for it to go into.

Maybe even no digits or opposable thumbs to hold the "Pencil" with anyhow, or guide it, anywhere in the future.

Kind Regards,

Elf.

Originally posted by dalan.

The use of force against any human being is going to hurt them, regardless of age. I have seen children that were genuinely curious about sexuality only to be spanked by their parents. That kind of behavior will also have ill-effects on children too. You're basically telling them that sexuality is not Ok, their bodies are not Ok...and we wonder why there are so many "deviants."

We do have science that gives us good reason to believe children are not capable of consensual sex with adults. The do not have the reasoning ability to understand the long term consequences of their behaviors, (disease, pregnancy, other trauma) and the parts of their brain that allow them to make these judgments and control their impulses are not formed until their late teens at the earliest, early twenties more commonly.

If anything, the age of adulthood should be raised to reflect the science on brain development, not lowered.

Of course children should not be punished for their own private explorations of their sexuality. Nor should children of similar age be punished as criminals for their activities. But there is no way they are on equal footing with an adult when it comes to their knowledge, experience, understanding of consequences, and impulse control, therefore, adults should not be allowed to prey upon them.

If children know their own minds so well, which is something many argue who wish to lower the age of consent, where are the organizations of children lobbying to have the age of consent lowered so that they may have sex with adults? Surely, if they wanted it, they would be nagging their parents for it, and yet we hear......................... nothing.

The only ones lobbying for the age of consent to be lowered are adults. More specifically, adults who wish to have sex with children.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by dalan.

The use of force against any human being is going to hurt them, regardless of age. I have seen children that were genuinely curious about sexuality only to be spanked by their parents. That kind of behavior will also have ill-effects on children too. You're basically telling them that sexuality is not Ok, their bodies are not Ok...and we wonder why there are so many "deviants."

We do have science that gives us good reason to believe children are not capable of consensual sex with adults. They do not have the reasoning ability to understand the long term consequences of their behaviors, (disease, pregnancy, other trauma) and the parts of their brain that allow them to make these judgments and control their impulses are not formed until their late teens at the earliest, early twenties more commonly.

That does not mean that children cannot be exposed to any form of sexuality. That is why there are adults to help guide them, but sadly for them, kids wind up being forced to do something by people who represent two sides to the same coin. Whether those people are Paedos are AntiPaedos.

If anything, the age of adulthood should be raised to reflect the science on brain development, not lowered.

Agreed.

Of course children should not be punished for their own private explorations of their sexuality. Nor should children of similar age be punished as criminals for their activities. But there is no way they are on equal footing with an adult when it comes to their knowledge, experience, understanding of consequences, and impulse control, therefore, adults should not be allowed to prey upon them.

YES! It is this exact behavior that creates "deviants" in the first place.

If children know their own minds so well, which is something many argue who wish to lower the age of consent, where are the organizations of children lobbying to have the age of consent lowered so that they may have sex with adults? Surely, if they wanted it, they would be nagging their parents for it, and yet we hear......................... nothing.

So going along with the development thing, what would you do, or anyone else do, if their child asked to see them naked?

Most people probably would punish them for simply asking the question out of curiosity, planting the seed for sexual neurosis early on in their lives.

And God-forbid you allowed your child to see you naked, then you'd be a paedo.

The only ones lobbying for the age of consent to be lowered are adults. More specifically, adults who wish to have sex with children.

I do not think I have ever seen a child lobby for anything.

My biggest question is why would an adult want to have sex with a child?

That is something that I have never understood, but unlike most, I do not want to kill them. That is simply sweeping a problem under the rug. In which case, it will never really go away because of our lack of understanding.

Good post by the way.