Giving in to animalistic behaviors, such as revenge, will only act as a repercussion on society, and therfore CREATE more violent behavior
(hence more murders, as the statistics I liked to you proove).
See Below.
If you check out the statistics, the "typical" murderer generally has had little if no education, and has grown up in a poor environnement,
which leads to stress, excess aggressivity, and an exacerbated drive to "do what is necessary to survive". In other words, the average murderer is
an intelligent, but fierce animal.
Tell me how is raping babies, or old ladies, or murder, nessesary to survive? I demand you answer this!
If hes intelligent then what has lack of education to do with it? He knows its wrong.
Had he grown up in different environnement, he would probably not have killed anyone.
Murderers come from all kinds of enviroments, not all of them negative.
I dont buy that. He was inclined to kill and he did, period.
How do you account for millions, nay biliions of other poor, uneducated folk living in violent communitys that DONT Murder, rape etc ? They just
forgot?
Ganja is absolutely right. Treat people like animals (prison) and they behave like animals. Prison 'hardens' and brutalises criminals and most who
are released are worse than they went in.
Prison dosent rehabilitate, it merely punishes, and whats more the re-offend rate for most is sky high.
Its punishment merely to give society a sense that justice has been served, while the reality is very different.
Creating more and more legislation, and jailing people for breaking it, dosent work.
Another crisis for the government occurred on 7 November 1987 when prisoner Jamie Partlic was bashed by another prisoner in the Central
Industrial Prison at Long Bay. Jamie Partlic had been serving a sentence as a parking fine defaulter and was bashed so brutally he sustained brain
damage and remained in a coma for almost six months. The incident led to widespread changes in the way fines were dealt with, including the
establishment of the State Debt Recovery Office and the abolition of imprisonment for fine default.
www.app.unsw.edu.au...
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Prison rape endangers the public safety by making brutalized inmates more likely to commit crimes when they are released—as 600,000 inmates
are each year.
The frequently interracial character of prison sexual assaults significantly exacerbates interracial tensions, both within prison and, upon release of
perpetrators and victims from prison, in the community at large.
Prison rape increases the level of homicides and other violence against inmates and staff, and the risk of insurrections and riots.
Victims of prison rape suffer severe physical and psychological effects that hinder their ability to integrate into the community and maintain stable
employment upon their release from prison. They are thus more likely to become homeless and/or require government assistance.
Members of the public and government officials are largely unaware of the epidemic character of prison rape and the day-to-day horror experienced by
victimized inmates.
en.wikipedia.org...
Your alternative to death for murder and the like, jail for life, Is more brutalising than death, and leaves the prisoner more dangerous to society
onrelease (where 'life' is less than 'the term of natural life', ie in australia 13-15 years.
A muderer dosent emerge from 15 years in jail, all rehabilitated, fit for tea and scones with your grandmother and kissing babies, as you bleeding
hearts would like to beleive.
He went in a murderous scumbag and emerged a worse scumbag, free to walk the streets because folk like you in your ivory towers take the holier than
thou ,moral highground, and deny reality.
The system dosent work, and continuing to cottonwool scumbags, creates more of them.
A society that dosent tolerate abominations, Must take a harder stance.
Longer sentences dont cut it. Shoving evidence of societys decay under the rug for X years, (prison sentences) dosent solve it!
True enough, its time we pulled the finger out with our kids to prevent another generation of scumbags, but its not enough alone and its not happening
anyway, So many parents should never had children, and alot of parents have no idea anymore. Little wonder each generation produces more monsters.
Some folk need to be eliminated entirely, and human society as a whole needs a major reality check.
Your new age ideas are just swell by themselves, but useless when society
remains apathetic, and resistant to change.
The world needs bootcamp, and the death penalty should be part of it.
[edit on 18-3-2010 by wayaboveitall]
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Either way, good thread Op, and a pleasure discussing with all of you! 
I don't care what pro-execution extremist nutjobs have to say -
after all - I have legislature and the majority of the Australian population on my side. 
