i have said it before
you have not listened

i have shown you history
you have only laughed

i have offered aid
you have scoffed

i am not playing
you are

who shall obtain the four?
who indeed.

You must see that not all of us have scoffed at you, but have used your clues to further our efforts to solve clues. It is only because of your arrogant comments that some of the members are beginning to doubt you.

do not grovel now
it will not help you

Simon knows well the means to manipulate you. you are playing his game like good little children.

play away play away little boys and girls.

I find your claim interesting that Simon is the one manipulating us, to what end? Why to you proport that he is the one with nafarious motives?

I got one simple question;

Where are the rings?

check out fives picture. Its got the new ring icon sideways in it.

[Edited on 1-6-2004 by Nightwalker]

5 daddio i said good job when you gave us history and list and junk like most others so why do you not except it

oh dear, not again

Originally posted by waltmarkers
I find your claim interesting that Simon is the one manipulating us, to what end?

oh silly children. pay attention.

this is what i have been saying all along. ask someone here with a memory longer than a few days and you'll have your answer.

what foolish children.

If you don't know, look back at -5-'s old posts. This should answer any questions you have about him, Simon, or -5-'s authenticity.

i already knew that why do you have to go on these silly campaigns when you could help us find the rings. and calling us silly children well you act silly making arrogant comments and stuff help us not be silly so we can help find the rings gosh, and if you know everyting bout the rings then why havent you solved clues and explained things

silly jackass,

you're pissing me off!

What about his picture? Chekc it out. -5- must know something.

Hmmm...your saying that this isnt a game....you tell us all this "#"...which you say is true...you also say that Simon and ATS are manipulating us....and that they are the bad guys...then obviously they would put a warning against you to stop people form beleiving you....which only helps your story...atleast to me. The members beleive them and not you cuz they said that you arent the real deal.

Or am I dead wrong,-5-?

[Edited on 1-6-2004 by dreamlandmafia]

Mods - who warned -5-? Simon, if you warned him personally, please explain to us why, as it lends creedance to his assertion that you have alternative motives. As generally, if his claim was baseless, there would be no harm in letting him spout off. Not agreeing with -5-, I'd just like some backround.

Holy Cow... -5- finally got a warning. Maybe Dreamland gave Simon an idea or something... they dn't have to warn or ban him if they want him to keep quiet. he coud also let him be and make it as though he was part of the game. Either way, i don't cre who the bad guy is i just want the precioussss.

I too just spied a warn icon on -5-s posts. Is this an indication that HUNT_ADMIN is getting ready to bounce him right off the board?

I think that if he was a part of the game, he wouldn't be simply warned, there would be a more creative way of giving him credability. It's much more likely he's been warned about giving away false clues and spoiling the game.

Poor kid. He must be really lonely to think it's fun to wind people up like this.

i think he was warned for the same reason many people get warned, and that's insulting other members or something along those lines. But like I said, I wasn't offended by anything, so I don't care if there is a warn by him or not. His "warns" are not really part of the game.

Why do people keep arguing that -5- is a fake? He is clearly a key part of finding the 4 rings, and has given us information to prove that, like the file list, ect. As some have put it "he is part of the game." But I object to that wording and I prefer the term event, as -5- objects to the term "game," and I find no offical listing refering to this as a game.

[Edited on 1/6/04 by waltmarkers]

There comes a time when time stands still. there is a place where logic is nill, beyond the void, behind the veil. jaw agape skin so pale. wax cold the marble eyes of those who see the truth. petrified in great mystique at the realm of the aloof. when speculation is murdered by the fact of that what is. we trade pride for humility, in measured worth asking for others to give.