Originally posted by marsvolta
this whole thread reeks of narcissism. "oh we must be intelligent", "oh we must be a different breed", "others got caught up in lies"...how do
you know others got caught up in lies? maybe it`s you people with fogged vision who cant see further beyond their own nose, who cant think beyond how
epic they themselves are for being oh so different and so much more free in the thought department? from my own experience namely such people tend to
be the ones with very inflexible thought processes. a school princess` thoughts are exactly in the mode of this thread.
I endorse this post
On the other hand, people who visit ATS tend to be contrarians - and I think that is a virtue in a world that seems to value conformity - without an
opposition voice, things tend to be pretty dull.
Whether people here have actually managed to escape - thats another question.
If they have escaped common reality, then by common definition they are living in a fantasy land.
What indications are there to support an assertion that they have a better basis for reality than the commonly accepted view?
For me this is resolved by applying reality models and seeing where you get the best fit.
Is everything as it appears, and the news is correct and unbiased and governments are acting in everyones best interest? Wars just happen, and are
justifiable based on the events that lead up to them? The monetary system is a fair system that benefits society as a whole?
Well, the above questions highlight some glaring problems with the commonly accepted reality - and a cut to the bone question of 'who benefits'
unearths a host of alternative realities.
Why do people on ATS generally not subscribe to the commonly accepted reality?
Perhaps your post has value in pointing out the narcissistic tendancies of these posters - perhaps you are right?
Perhaps it is a sense of superiority and pride that causes people to turn away from what the 'common' people believe? A desire to be different from
those they see as inferior?
Its an interesting idea - and I see a certain amount of truth in it, but I don't think its the entire answer in all cases.
Some people will have their own beliefs, and seek self importance, and an area in which they can be the chief expert and so on - granted.
However - there is a model of reality that simply has a better fit than the one presented by the media, education, government, churches and so on -
this model is attacked, its proponents abused and discredited and public opinion through mass media is directed against it.
If pride were the issue - then I think many would rather avoid the embarrassment.
I think the alternative model fits so well that it is compelling.
I think many ATS members have seen a better way to understand reality - that explains it better - and that it is so compelling that they simply won't
let it go.
Maybe it was chance that lead them on the path to a new understanding, maybe it was intelligence, or imagination that begin to unravel the illusion of
reality that has been collectively pulled over our eyes, maybe it is over confidence (narcissism) that continues to make them paddle upstream?
The common theme that I see, more so than narcissism - is they see themselves as being different, not fitting into the common mold - and curiosity
seems to be another important theme.
There are probably a range of answers - narcissism might be part of the equation, but i don't think it is the whole answer.
EDIT: I should point out, I am narcissistic - and proud of it. ;P
[edit on 17-3-2010 by Amagnon]