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U.S. history textbooks could soon be flavored heavily with Texas conservatism


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Topic started on 16-3-2010 @ 08:30 AM by Vindaru


U.S. history textbooks could soon be flavored heavily with Texas conservatism


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The nation’s public school curriculum may be in for a Texas-sized overhaul, if the Lone Star state’s influential recommendations for changes to social studies, economics and history textbooks are fully ratified later this spring. Last Friday, in a 10-to-5 vote split right down party lines, the Texas State Board of Education approved some controversial right-leaning alterations to what most students in the state
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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 08:30 AM by Vindaru


If this passes, I would recommend homeschooling children from now on. The implications are staggering. I already don't trust what they teach us about history.

I thought I would post this, seeing as how I couldn't find it anywhere else. History should be a non-biased subject.

Eternally searching for fact and truth,
Vindaru

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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 08:44 AM by Merriman Weir


Originally posted by Vindaru
I thought I would post this, seeing as how I couldn't find it anywhere else. History should be a non-biased subject.


I'm not sure how that can ever be, to be honest. Whilst people often trot out the saying that 'history is written by the victor', what's closer to the truth is that that history is interpreted by the victors. As seemingly paradoxical as it sounds, history is always a reflection of the present.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 08:51 AM by nycfrog27


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so, the liberals who now control America, are influencing the students of today's classes by omitting crucial keypoints in American History (i.e, George Washington, Christianity-based foundation(s) that America was founded on, etc.) is OK? You should take a look at the history book my 3rd grade daughter brought home from school the other day! Please OP, tell me what is so wrong with being a practitioner/regular worshipping of whomever your God/Religion is, not agreeing with abortion, Democracy for all, and don't forget Freedom most importantly! What's wrong with having that basic ideaology? Or would you rather live in Russia of old, or China of today? Do Liberals actually KNOW what they stand for? Somebody please respond accurately, and not b/c they heard what the 80% majority mainstream media told them.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 09:00 AM by Hadrian


which liberals control america? if you mean the obama administration (in office for a little over a year), i would suggest that those evildoers have not had the time to produce the liberal grimoires they are wont to do, get them published and into the fat little hands of america's school children. however, the previous administration had eight years, so if the executive administration is responsible for school textbooks, and you have a problem with their content, look at W.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 09:07 AM by Vindaru


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Okay, I don't see where you attack me with theology here. My belief in theology is irrelevant to the article. Follow what you want to follow, and believe what you follow. Now that that is clear. The us history should be unbiased in the religion department. Seeing as how the us has so many different belief systems, it is wrong to focus on one and leave out all the others. They are just as pertinent as the christian religion.

Vindaru



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 09:17 AM by nik1halo


You're right, history should not be biassed. Religious and political spin on history text books would simply not be allowed here in the UK, not like we're seeing here anyway. Over here, history is taught in all it's glory and horror, the good and the bad. We're made fully aware that Britain was a right git to many people during our empire building days, but also aware that we brought civilisation and technology to these same people, just as the Romans did with us.

It's all swings and roundabouts. No country is innocent andour next generations, being taught history should be made aware of the facts without prejudice.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 09:18 AM by butcherguy


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Good!

I am tired of the children having nothing but ARTIFICIAL vanilla flavor.

It has been too long since they could have a different flavor in school!

Your Flag, Sir.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 09:20 AM by Demetre


This is so ridiculous. History is def subjective and I can see adding more info or accounts from another persons view but to leave out factuals like Jefferson?? C'mon...the primary author of The Declaration of Indepenence?? I think it has a lot to do with Jeffersons views on religion and the freedom of. He rejected the belief of an eternal hell and thought the Bible was corrupted to suit the church. Look at all of his quotes concerning a revolution against our corrupt govt or banks or right to bare arms. Jefferson is every govts nightmare. Take it upon urself to educate ur kids on these matters. Public schools arent in it to educate, theyre there to brainwash our children filling their little heads with a bunch of lies, outright or by ommision.

Peace. Kim.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 09:20 AM by hotbakedtater


Parents who rely on the public school system to educate their children are fools.

My children get their REAL education from Momma, and life experience, and school they are told and know is just a social setting for future business connections, particularly the debt slavery of college.

I say it matters little what the fools in public education tell your children if you as a parent are doing your proper duty at home.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 10:13 AM by Scramjet76


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This is horrible. Jefferson's role in the history books limited..... and Gingrich is actually going to get highlighted? What's next? George Washington making room for Nancy Pelosi?

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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 10:28 AM by Scramjet76


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It's all swings and roundabouts. No country is innocent and our next generations, being taught history should be made aware of the facts without prejudice.



I wish everyone on the Texas board of education would think like this! This is scary stuff!

Here's another article written earlier last month about these bozos.


Succeeding at this would help them toward their ultimate goal of reshaping American society. As Cynthia Dunbar, another Christian activist on the Texas board, put it, “The philosophy of the classroom in one generation will be the philosophy of the government in the next.”


NYTimes Article




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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 10:37 AM by Tiger5


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I agree. Even within the standard syllabus there is scope for parental intervention. I cannot forget the day my daughter and I were walking hope and she told me that " the Jews killed Christ". We were in the UK at the time.

Yes anyone who relies on the schoo to be the sole educator is a damned fool!

However I do not think homeschooling is the answer but thatis another discussion.


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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 10:40 AM by Scramjet76


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What is your post supposed to mean? That teaching kids about Thomas Jefferson is "vanilla?"

You can thank Jefferson for the fact that this country is great. If they wouldn't have seperated State & Religioun from the beginning, we'd most likely have a gov't similar to Iran. Is that what people want?

This is just sad sad pathetic news.......



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 10:49 AM by Anjin


Originally posted by Hadrian
which liberals control america?


Maybe the same ones who fed us the man made global warming agenda for starters.

Just look at the MSM and entertainment industries. They are both very influential in steering a culture.

Think about when the last time the word Conservative was portrayed in a positive light in society. Is that because Conservatives are bad or because there has been a smear campaign going on for the last 10 years?



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 10:58 AM by Tiger5


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Welll what do you think of the words Union, Liberal, leftist etc. this is just the game of politics. Conservatives just need to accept that they are part of the game also.


Luckily children and parents have the internet and can get a more rounded view of history. I my thought on the civil changed as a result of ATS FOR EXAMPLE.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 11:07 AM by nik1halo


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Unfortunately, that is frighteningly accurate. The children of today are the world leaders of tomorrow. If you can successfully shape the minds and philosophy of an entire generation, you can virtually shape the world into your own vision of what is should be. Unfortunately, it looks like Americas next generation of world leaders are gonna be comprised of religious zealouts.



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 12:20 PM by butcherguy


Originally posted by Scramjet76
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What is your post supposed to mean? That teaching kids about Thomas Jefferson is "vanilla?"

You can thank Jefferson for the fact that this country is great. If they wouldn't have seperated State & Religioun from the beginning, we'd most likely have a gov't similar to Iran. Is that what people want?

This is just sad sad pathetic news.......
Did I say anything bad about Thomas Jefferson?

I want my children to be well rounded, not raised with one side of every story.

That's okay, don't you think?



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 12:25 PM by Wiz4769


I cant say I agree with this change mind you, but....I know I have been sick of the whole liberal global warming thing being pushed down my kids throats the last couple of years either. Seems the non christians did a good job working religion out of schools, now can we get all political crap out as well?



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reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 12:32 PM by ModernAcademia


I will say one thing to play devil's advocate

You want to see REAL AMERICANS? Go to Texas!

I would prefer Texas writing history over any other state.



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