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Gang Stalking: Psychological Targeting in a Group Setting

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posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:27 AM
reply to post by Dock9

Organized Stalking is very real. Read my story on the READ FIRST link at the top of my blog.

posted on May, 5 2010 @ 04:17 AM

Originally posted by Nventual
I gotta say, this gang-stalking this seems like a woo woo belief.

I don't see why a group of unknown people would stalk someone everywhere when the person hasn't done anything to warrant the stalking and most times lives alone and doesn't even do much with their life.

When police stalk/follow someone they are in a group, but they don't all appear at once.
One car will follow you to an intersection, then turn the opposite direction as you while a new car follows so that the person never realises. I assume if anyone was going to stalk as a gang they'd follow the same sort of procedure.

I've seen some gang-stalking videos on youtube and at first I thought they were a joke.
One woman films random people on the street and wonders why they're looking at her. She even filmed a kid sitting on her fathers lap at a bus stop and said the guy was molesting her. Both the child and the father were giving her weird worried looks, as I would too.

I find it sort of sad that people believe they are being gang-stalked, since it isn't happening and it's pretty much breaking the persons mental state even further when people are like "oh yeah it's certainly happening, blah blah blah".

I had to quote this person's entire response as I feel the same way. I have been in the past in a position where my name was on a list (due to a custody dispute over my children) and I was harrassed by a few people in my community but it was nothing like the grand-scale and elaborate spy-games a lot of people are talking about on the internet. I really was worried for some time that I was still being harrassed by some people and went looking for information about it, only to find these websites about gang-stalking cropping up everywhere, not a lot unlike porn sites. All I read on these sites are anecdotes and more links to other clone-sites, espousing the same ideas but still not coming up with any proof for their claims.

Anecdotes are just stories and hearsay, not evidence. From the elaborate explanations I've read from people about this gang stalking thing, it simply sounds implausible that so many hundreds (if not thousands) of people could be harrassed in this way without anyone finding some evidence of it. And no, your anecdotal story of harrassment doesn't cut it, sorry. Please don't respond with "evidence" unless you have something to back you up other than your story of events. I even feel silly responding here because it feels like I'm pandering to someone's paranoid delusions. Turns out a lot of people think they're special enough to be stalked by a mega-gang with millions of dollars at their disposal. I don't think so myself, I think it's more probable that there are many undiagnosed mentally ill people online feeding off each other's ideas with these gang stalking websites.

posted on May, 5 2010 @ 04:25 AM

Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by MajorDisaster

Might it be suggested 'they don't leave any evidence' --- because there is no evidence --- because it didn't happen, apart from the fevered 'me centred' imagination of the self-claimed 'target' ?

Same with the alleged 'psychic attacks' ?

My thoughts exactly. There is a very real difference between being stalked for real and imagining you are. This sounds too much like a mental disorder or a bit of wide-spread narcissistic paranoia to me. Also psychic attacks aren't even real, no one can remotely attack your mind and even if it were possible, why would anyone want to entertain this possibility? To really believe in these gang stalking accounts would make anyone depressed to the point of suicide. I think these people need medical help.

posted on May, 5 2010 @ 04:43 AM

Originally posted by ChickNorris

This got me to thinking about when all this started and my daughter was only 3 years old. SHe had recently has tubes in her ears and her ears were VERY sensitive. She could hear the compressor in the refigerator flip on and things that I could hear if I tried to listen. I made the msitake of joking about this, and talking about it where they could hear me.

This was the beginning when I had not conditioned myself to their tactics yet and needless to say, I was alittle crazy. I woudl get really stressedout when my daughter would cry or pitch a fit, which was very rare, she hardly ever crys or whines. She began to have these bouts where she would scream bloody murder and hold her ears, Of course I couldn't hear anything, shw would say "WHAT's THAT NOISE, MOMMY?" and I thought she was jsut being a 3 year old. She wasn't, they did this to get ot me and make me go mad.

[edit on 15-3-2010 by ChickNorris]

[edit on 15-3-2010 by ChickNorris]

Could it possibly have been an ear infection? Most parents would assume this possibility or another medical issue before convincing themselves their children were being targeted by thugs. Please, next time something like that happens, take your daughter to a doctor. I guarantee you there would be another explanation.

[edit on 5-5-2010 by Zorah]

posted on May, 5 2010 @ 04:59 AM

Originally posted by Zorah
I had to quote this person's entire response as I feel the same way.

Thank god I'm not alone, I'm surprised that so many people think this sort of stalking is going on.

.I think it's more probable that there are many undiagnosed mentally ill people online feeding off each other's ideas with these gang stalking websites.

Bingo. I'm no psychologist but it makes more sense than any other theory.

posted on May, 5 2010 @ 05:10 AM

Originally posted by MajorDisaster

Originally posted by Dock9
These are the claims !

Yes! Now deal with it!!

Reality is much more
up than most people know.

The police, government, intel agencies and corporations have lots of high-tech toys they can use to mess with people, and they do.

And as Harassment101 has pointed out, it's very easy for them to get others in the community to go along with it. They just tell people that the target is a nut, psycho, pedophile, whatever, that they "deserve" the constant attacks and torture, and people will gladly go along with it.

One thing you are all failing at doing is convincing people your stories are real because they simply aren't. I have a really hard time believing that all these so-called "stupid" stalkers are so dumb that not only can they not harrass these folks without getting caught out by their targets but absolutely NONE of them have come forward to say, you know what folks, I used to stalk for such and such company etc....

Someone, somewhere would spill their beans about it, especially when you're all claiming this harrassment goes on in large communities of people. No one is perfect and someone is bound to make a mistake, yet the fact that not one of these stalkers has done so in the 20+ years that some folks are claiming to have been stalked tells me that this is exactly what it looks like - paranoia and narcissism. I have a family member who suffers from delusions of this kind, they have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and they really do have the illness, it was sad to see them get sick with mania and paranoia like this. I am worried about my own mental health because it has been proven medically that bipolar disorder runs in families. I have not had any mania but most certainly have felt like I've been stalked at times and this is another reason why I've been researching this online, aside from the fact that I have been harrassed for real before. It was not grand-scale like these folks are claiming though and because I carried on living my life without blame, the folks who may have earlier been convinced I was a danger to my children eventually realised it was all bunk. The rumours eventually stopped and I've been living a relatively normal life since I gained full custody of my children. That is real stalking and harrassment, not these wild claims folks are making of their genitals being blasted through walls.

I will agree that there are SOME circumstances where folks may be stalked and/or harrassed by officials believing them to be guilty of terrorism or something more specific, but I have a really difficult time trying to imagine why single mothers and relatively peaceful people are targets. No one has given me any evidence yet and I agree with some of the other's posts about how this gang stalking phenomenon keeps mixing itself up with very real intelligence agencies doing govt. work. None of us are as special to the govt. as we think we are. Try thinking on that for a bit. Surely it feels better than this paranoia?

posted on May, 5 2010 @ 05:26 AM

Originally posted by MajorDisaster
reply to post by Dock9

For example I have noticed that when I'm texting back and forth with friends and I tell them where I am, what I'm doing, where I'm going, where I will be at such and such a time etc, then I get attacked everywhere I go, like clockwork. But if I stop texting my friends all my plans for the day, then, sure enough, the attacks stop.

Hmm, sounds like it could possibly be gang stalking. The most probable explanation though could be that you need new friends?

posted on May, 5 2010 @ 11:45 AM
reply to post by Zorah

Hmm looks like poor old MD isn't around any more so I guess we'll never know for sure?

posted on May, 7 2010 @ 05:32 PM
reply to post by Zorah

I believe my dad was gang stalked... and I can trace back my own gang stalking starting shortly after my parents divorced. (Someone was trying to make life difficult for me... where in turn they made life difficult for my mother.) So that's over 45 years of ongoing continuous stalking... and I've yet to uncover the reason as to why my dad was originally targeted.

And based on my own personal experiences... the orchestrators could only have been people with military backrounds having ties to LE... and now Homeland Security. The friggin' Post Office has even messed with me. So that should give you an idea as to what level these people are operating.

[edit on 7/5/2010 by Hedera Helix]

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:46 AM
What is Gang Stalking?

Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. Once a target is flagged a notification is sent out to the community at large, and the target is followed around 24/7 by the various communities that they are in.

The community notifications will go out to various places. Apartment rentals, future employers, stores and communities where the target visits, will be notified. Doctors offices, fire departments, police, etc. A covert investigation might also be opened, and electronic, means used by the civilian spies/snitches as part of the overt and covert monitoring and surveillance process.

Individuals can be flagged designating them as having a history of aggressive or inappropriate behavior. This notification system will follow the target if they move, change jobs, visit other areas. It let's the community believe that the target is a person who needs to be watched or monitored.

"In the service sector this may require identifying to employees persons who have a history of aggressive or inappropriate behavior in the store, bar, mall or taxi.

The identity of the person and the nature of the risk must be given to staff likely to come into contact with that person. While workers have the right to know the risks, it is important to remember that this information cannot be indiscriminately distributed.

Community health and safety

A woman named Jane Clift in the U.K. went through a very similar type of flagging system. A warning marker was placed against her name designating her as potentially violent.

She sensed that, everywhere she went, there was "whispering, collaboration, people scurrying about". "Everywhere I went - hospitals, GPs, libraries - anywhere at all, even if I phoned the fire service, as soon as my name went on to that system, it flagged up 'violent person marker, only to be seen in twos, medium risk'."

Violent Persons Registry

Jane Clift was targeted this way and spent four year clearing her name.

Individuals are being flagged without their knowledge. In many countries these community notifications might fall under community safety and health laws. It seems that employers, educational facilities, and community centers are in some cases flagging innocent individuals as a means of retaliation, silencing, or controlling members of society.

Maria Buffa, a former salaried employee in the personnel department at Ford World Headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan, said she, too, was sent to a psychiatrist after she filed a sexual harassment complaint in February 1999 against a woman co-worker. "You think, maybe I am the problem, else why would they be sending me to a psychiatrist," she said. The psychiatrist Ford selected, Dr. Edward Dorsey of Midwest Health Center, made a report that said the only psychiatric symptom Buffa displayed was anxiety. Dorsey's report said that the referral came from Ford's medical department and was at least in part due to her complaints of sexual harassment. He also noted that the Ford doctor who referred Buffa cited a couple of "incidents": She was seen yelling at someone, and she had shown up at a fitness center "wearing less than the usual amount of clothing for that physical activity."

In April 1999, Buffa's boss fired her "for the good of the company," she recalled being told.

Psychiatric Reprisal

The individual is then placed under overt and covert forms of surveillance. Everywhere the Targeted Individual goes, their name is flagged. In a big city this could mean that thousands upon thousands of people are getting a notification about the target. The person is followed around 24/7. Foot patrols and vehicle patrols are used to follow the Individual around, as part of the monitoring process. During these patrols a one handed sign language is used to assist the citizen informants with communicating to each other. They will use this to silently communicate to any business the target enters, or other areas.

Gang Stalking is experienced by the Targeted Individual as psychological attack, that is capable of immobilizing and destroying them over time. The covert methods used to harass, persecute, and falsely defame the targets often leave no evidence to incriminate the civilian spies.

It's similar to workplace mobbing, but takes place outside in the community. It called Gang Stalking, because groups of organized community members stalk and monitor the targets 24/7.

Many Targeted Individuals are flagged, harassed and placed under surveillance in this way for months or even years before they realize that they are being targeted by an organized protocol of harassment.

What happens during this monitoring and surveillance is very similar to what happened to many innocent individuals in the former East Germany or Activists and Dissidents in Russia. Many innocent people in the former East Germany would be targeted by the state, and then their friends, family, and the community at large would be used to monitor, prosecute, and harass them. The same persecutions and harassment's are now happening in democratic countries.

Once a person is flagged or has a warning marker placed on their file, the community becomes hypervigilant, and within this structure there is a targeted and illegal protocol of harassment that happens. Electronic means are used to monitor, harass and torture the target. When the target tries to describe what is happening to them, it sounds as if they have had a mental breakdown. The reality is electronic means are being used to make it appear as if the target has had a breakdown.

Electronic Harassment

This System is the “MOSQUITO” that is used in the UK to break up groups of unruly people. Creates A Protective Shield Of High Pressure Complex Ultrasonic Shock Waves.

The Mosquito device is being considered for banning by the European Union, cause it infringes on the human rights of children.

Produces a power field of ultrasonic shock wave energy. The frequency range is adjustable from 7kHz to 25kHz, with the PCC30 putting out 140db of sound (135db for the PPF40) measured at 30cm. Intended for mounting to vehicles for potential crowd control applications. Also excellent for keeping out pests from gardens, etc. Hearing protection recommended when in use.

Many of these devices are easy to access, and almost impossible for an unaware target to describe in a credible manner, without sounding as if they have had a mental breakdown.

Unauthorized intruders are exposed to a feeling of intense paranoia, discomfort, disorientation, nausea and other undesirable effects. Government research is currently investigating the weapons potential and may soon classify these devices!

In Russia similar means were used by the state to declare activist, dissidents or anyone they thought to be an enemy of the state as mentally unfit and many were institutionalized using this form of systemic control.

The closest thing to Gang Stalking that democratic countries have seen before this is McCarthyism, Cointelpro, and RED SQUAD programs. Red Squad programs were used for monitoring, and harassment of various groups. They have been in place for over a hundred years, and they also employed Informants.

Civilian Spies, who can also be termed "Covert Human Intelligence Sources" come from every level and sector of society. Remember anyone the Targeted Individual comes into contact with gets a warning about the target.

Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is contacted, advised as to why the individual has been flagged, advised not to discuss the notification and asked to be a part of the ongoing, never ending monitoring (systemic psychological harassment and manipulation of the target) process. This process is covertly designed to control the targets, keep them in line, or destroy the target over time, leaving them with no form of support.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:47 AM
These actions are specifically designed to mimic a psychological operation. This psychological harassment of the target is designed to destroy them over years, making them look crazy and leave them with no form of support. The individuals around the target carry out actions and tasks as they are instructed, without realizing that the structure is psychologically designed to break the target down.

Worldwide programs of control and conformity have been used with equal success and lethality. What we are seeing now is a co-ordinated and organized effort of control and conformity. Many countries around the world are currently using a model of policing called: Community Oriented Policing. It's described as a systemic approach to policing. It focuses on instilling a sense of community within a geographically located neighborhood. Communities come together and discuss what values they would like to have in their community, community development, and it's also a time to discuss any problems that might be happening in a specific area. If a problem is identified an investigation might be opened. These local programs in many countries have been forming partnerships with other government run programs at, provincial, state and federal levels. A process called Deconfliction allows them to share information. Reports of Gang Stalking are not only coming in from democratic countries, but they are coming in from many other countries as well.

The modern day systemic form of control could only be funded at governmental levels, just like it has in other societies where these similar types of harassment programs have been implemented. It's all part of a system of control and conformity that has been in place for many years. A system of control with many local groups and appendages taking part. Many targets report that their information is passed and shared between country boarders, and that the surveillance continues even when they travel.

What are the goals of Gang Stalking?

The official goal is listed as a notification for the community, to alert them of individuals who have been flagged, or have had a warning marker placed on their file. It's officially used as a means of investigating or monitoring individuals who have displayed inappropriate, or violent behaviours. The real goal in some cases however seems to be to isolate the target from all forms of support, so that the target can be set up in the future for arrest, institutionalization, or forced suicide. Other goals of this harassment is to destroy the targets reputation and credibility. Make the target look crazy or unstable.

Other goals involve sensitizing the target to everyday stimuli’s as a form of control, which is used to control targets when they get out of line. Once the target is sensitized, the Citizen Informants have an easier time identifying the Targeted Individual in public. The targets sensitivity is most likely added to their file as a warning marker and sign to watch for future reactions to.

The structure of this type of notification makes the targets vulnerable. Once a community goes into monitoring mode, they unofficially work towards driving the target from the community. This can be done by making the target destitute. Secondary goals include making the target homeless, jobless, giving them a breakdown, and the primary goals seems to be to drive the target to forced suicide. This is the same thing that was done to targets of the Stasi and Cointelpro investigations. It's a useful way of eliminating perceived enemies of the state.

What are other Names for Gang Stalking?

There are many names for this form of systemic control and harassment. Under the Gang Stalking label you will also find such terms as Community Mobbing, Community Stalking, Stalking by Proxy, Organized Stalking, Cause Stalking, Multi-Stalking, but it's all part of the same community notification harassment protocol. What many people do not realize is that Gang Stalking is just one appendage of this systemic form of control. There are other forms of control used to repress, and keep individuals in line. Other forms or appendages include, but are not limited to: Mobbing, Cointelpro, The Buzzsaw, Covert War, Electronic Harassment, etc. These are the just some of the names being given to a very old game, that is once again being played by governments on their unsuspecting citizens.

How are targets chosen?

Officially targets can be flagged and investigated for suspected, or reported behaviours. Unofficially the Targets can be chosen because of many other reasons. They can be chosen for political views. They can be chosen for whistle-blowing. They can be chosen because they belong to a dissident movement. They can be chosen because they asserted their rights at work, or filed a complaint. They can be chosen because they made the wrong enemy. Were considered to be too outspoken, unwittingly investigated something that the state did not want investigated, signed a petition, wrote a letter. They were deemed as suspicious by a civilian spy/snitch and their names were handed over.

It’s becoming apparent that targets might be chosen for this systemic form of control, if they are not already in some way a part of this controlled system. Eg. Many Targeted Individuals seem to be unaware of this community notification, flagging and monitoring system. Some targets also seem to be unaware that large chunks of our society are now being used as Citizen Informants.

Who gets targeted?

Targeting can happen to anyone in society. In the past primary targets of programs such as Cointelpro have been minorities. Targeting however can happen to anyone. Individuals are often targeted for being outspoken, whistle blowers, dissidents, people who go up against wealthy corporations, woman’s groups, (single) women, minorities, extremists, conspiracy theorists, anti-war proponents, individuals identified or targeted as problems at these community meetings, and other innocent individuals. The majority of the targets are often not aware that they are being targeted in this way. When a target moves, changes jobs, the harassment still continues, because they are still flagged, and a notification is still going out to everyone they come in contact with. Every time the target moves, the same information, lies, and slander will be spread out into the new community and the systemic monitoring and harassment will continue. Traits of those targeted

Who takes part?

People from all walks of life are a part of this system, because once a target is flagged, their information is distributed to a wide range of people, organizations, and communities. People from all races, ages, genders. Every sector of society that you can think of is a part of this. Civilian Spies/Snitches include, but are not limited to: General laborers, the wealthy, bikers, drug dealers, drug users, street people, punks, hip hop culture, KKK, black activists, church groups, youth groups, Fire Fighters, police officers, lawyers, health care workers, store keepers, maids, janitors, cable installers, phone repair persons, mail carriers, locksmiths, electricians, etc. There really is no minimum or maximum age range. An article came out recently in the UK, saying they were recruiting children as young as eight years old to be Covert Human Intelligence Sources.

Public individuals that the Targeted Individual comes in contact with are given this warning. These community notifications started with good intentions. Workers and the community at large do have a right to be notified if they are going to encounter persons who have violent, inappropriate histories. Citizens want to be able to protect themselves and their communities, however what is happening is that this program is also being used to falsely target innocent people.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:49 AM
Many do not understand or care that the end consequence of this flagging, this harassment protocol is to destroy a person. Many people in today's society are scared, they are willing to give up personal freedoms, for a false sense of security, and if that means taking away the rights of another individual to accomplish this, they have no problem doing this.

Why people participate in Gang Stalking?

There are many reasons that someone takes part in this.

1. Some do it for the sense of power that it gives them. They feel in control. Many wholeheartedly believe that this let's them know who is bad and who they need to protect themselves and their communities from.

2. Others do this as a way to make friends and keep friends. It’s something social and fun for them to do. They love that special feeling of monitoring and protecting their community. Many in society use the one handed sign language to communicate and it's very effective in breaking down race, gender, age, social barriers. Many believe that it also let's them know who is on their side, vs who could be the potential target.

3. Others are forced or blackmailed by the State or the police into taking part. I have seen a few people pressured into taking part.

4. They are told that they are part of homeland or national security. They are told that they are being used to help keep and eye on dangerous or emotionally disturbed individuals. They see themselves as heroic spies for the state.

5. Others are just local thugs or Informants who are already being used for other activities, and their energies are just diverted over into these community health and safety programs. Eg. Some may be given the choice of monitoring a Targeted Individual for the community or the police vs going to jail.

6. Others are told outright lies and slander about the target to get them to go along with ruining the targets life. Eg. Many caring families are told that the individuals has displayed mental health issues, or other socially unacceptable behaviours and might be a danger to themselves or the community at large, and that the notification is necessary for keeping the community safe. They are asked not to disclose this.

7. Many are however just average citizens who in the course of going about their day to day jobs, are being used to keep an eye out, and if a flagged target does come into their vicinity, they are asked to watch, monitor and observe the target. It's the way the society is.

What are some techniques used against targets?

A few of the most common techniques are listed below.

a) Classical conditioning.

Getting a Targeted Individual sensitized to an everyday stimuli. The targeted individual over a period of months, or even years is negatively sensitized to an everyday stimuli, which is then used to harass them. It’s used out in public to let them know they are constantly being harassed and monitored. Some examples of everyday stimulus that might be used include: sounds, colors, patterns, actions. Eg. Red, white, yellow, strips, pens clicking, key jangling, loud coughing, loud whistling, loud smacking of clapping of hands together, cell phones, laptops, etc.

b) 24/7 Surveillance This will involve flagging and following the target everywhere they go. Learning about the target. Where they shop, work, play, who their friends and family are. Getting close to the target, moving into the community or apartment where they live, across the street. Monitoring the targets phone, house, and computer activity. Surveillance Policy.

c) Isolation of said target.

This is done via reports. The flagging is meant to warn the community, but they act as little more than slander campaigns. They present a one sided assessment of the targets behavior and activity. The target is never allowed to tell their side of the story or to clear their name. This one sided assessment can include false reports, lies, and legitimate incidents where the target was set up. Eg. People in the targets community are told that the target is crazy, dangerous, a thief, into drugs, a prostitute, pedophile, in trouble for something, needs to be watched. This very flagging in and of itself is capable of creating paranoia, and false interpretation of everyday incidents.

Files will even be produced on the target.

It's been shown that community notifications of any kind can and do create a sense of paranoia within a community.

Some people might argue that they would feel more secure if they were aware of the identities of dangerous offenders in their neighborhoods, but widespread community notification actually serves to heighten fear of victimization. In a large metropolitan area, hundreds of thousands of people are notified of a dangerous offender's release, while only hundreds will come into contact with him in the community. This blanket notification propagates the belief that there are more "predators" in the community than ever before, and fearful attitudes among members of the public are reinforced. A vicious cycle results: widespread notification leads to an increase in the community's fear of crime which, in turn, leads to more calls for notification. We would also argue that the use of inflammatory language such as "predator" by politicians and officials also works to heighten fear and increase calls for more punitive action.

Community Notification

d) Noise and mimicking campaigns.

Disrupting the targets life, sleep with loud power tools, construction, stereos, doors slamming, etc. Talking in public about private things in the targets life. Mimicking actions of the target. Basically letting the target know that they are in the targets life. Daily interferences, nothing that would be too overt to the untrained eye, but psychologically degrading and damaging to the target over time.

e) Everyday life breaks and street theatre.

Flat tires, sleep deprivation, drugging food, putting dirt on targets property. Mass strangers doing things in public to annoy targets. These strangers might get text messaged to be at a specific time and place, and perform a specific action.

f) Electronic Harassment.

Electronic means can be used to create the illusion that the target is having a mental breakdown, when in fact they are being targeted and harassed by a community that is trying to get them to move, because they believe that the person is a danger, or an undesirable. This flagging system allows the community to treat the target as less than, someone they are allowed to harass, and victimize. It gives them a license to do unspeakable things to innocent targets, and their families.

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Hightech Harassment

These actions might seem harmless to these Citizen Informants, but in reality the actions could be causing great psychological trauma for the target. Eg. Blocking targets path, getting ahead of them in line, cutting or boxing them in on the road, saying or doing things to elicit a response from targets. Etc. It's like the death of a thousand paper cuts. One or two minor incidents will not cause any harm to the target, but over time the target is slowly worn down.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:53 AM
Where does the support or funding for this come from?

Though the systemic harassment that Targeted Individuals refer to as Gang Stalking is immoral and unethical in nature, programs such as this in democratic countries, and none democratic countries have always been funded by the Government. They are the only ones with enough money, coordination, and power to keep such a system in place. These Co-ordinated efforts then join hands with others for this systemic form of control and harassment.

"Ruling the community with an iron fist. “Savvy law enforcement types realized that under the community policing rubric, cops, community groups, local companies, private foundations, citizen informants and federal agencies could form alliances without causing public outcry.” Covert Action Quarterly, summer 1997.”

Ruling the community

“You mean to tell me that it is legal for corporations from the private sector to team up with local law enforcement officials in efforts to spy on innocent members of our society? You also mean to tell me that the synthesis of law enforcement authority and the drive of for-profit companies operate under little to no guidelines or restrictions and it is unclear to whom they are responsible to?”


What can you do to help?

1. If you know someone who is being targeted in this way please don’t go along with it. Don’t assume that the person is guilty or a bad person. Many innocent people are currently being targeted, and people are being told lies. This form of harassment is systemic and it's about state control and conformity. The express goal of this harassment is to destroy the individual over time.

2. If you are aware of someone being harassed in this way, subtly direct them to websites that deal with Gang Stalking, or sites for Targeted Individuals. Knowledge is power.

3. You can subtly suggest that your local newspapers or community papers print articles about Targeted Individuals or even an write an objective piece about Gang Stalking.

4. If you are a law maker, you can petition for changing the laws. Ensure targets who are flagged in this way have proper notification letting them know that they are flagged. Convicted criminals have this right, why not targets? Many of whom are innocent members of the public.
Petition for better oversight of these programs. As it stands Communities are getting away with serious human rights abuses, and complaints are not being heard. Authority figures such as the police in many cases are not taking the reports seriously due to the type of warning markers attached to a targets file.

5. If you are a lawyer our community needs lawyers who are skilled in helping targets access Freedom Of Information files. Lawyers who can help targets get their files reviewed, or corrected. Lawyers who can work with the existing privacy laws to limit who and where the targets information is disseminated to. We need human rights lawyers who can address the complaints of abuses that are happening to people listed or flagged in this manner. Illegal surveillance, illegal access of mail and electronic communications, and torture via electronic monitoring.

6. Mental health professionals can recognize that there is illegal harassment happening to individuals who are flagged, listed or have warning markers placed against their names. Community notifications can and do create paranoia within communities. This notification makes targets prime for harassment, and community mobbing.
They can objectively investigate the complaints, and become familiar with the Electronic means of monitoring and harassment that are being used. Laws are just starting to catch up to the technology. Eg. Europe is considering a ban on the mosquito device, because it infringes on the human rights of children.

7. You can subtly offer your support to someone who is being unfairly treated, in very small little ways.

8. You can bring up the subject of Gang Stalking or Targeted Individuals.

How do participants communicate?

Communication happens in a number of ways. When on the street or in cars patrolling, they use a one handed sign language. Citizen Informants also seem to get ques via cellphone and some via earphones.

Their one handed sign language include things like tapping the side of the nose, corner of the eye, brushing back the hair 3 times, the infamous double blink, etc.

Here is a list of signals that the former East German Secret Police the Stasi used. These signals below are not gang stalking signals, they were used in the former East Germany.


1. Watch out! Subject is coming - touch nose with hand or handkerchief

2. Subject is moving on, going further, or overtaking - stroke hair with hand, or raise hat briefly

3. Subject standing still - lay one hand against back, or on stomach

4. Observing Agent wishes to terminate observation because cover threatened - bend and retie shoelaces

5. Subject returning - both hands against back, or on stomach

6. Observing Agent wishes to speak with Team Leader or other Observing Agents - take out briefcase or equivalent and examine contents.


1. GmB Bailey, "Bridging The Gap."

2. Gloria Naylor. “1996"

3. Kristina Borjesson "Into the Buzzsaw"

4. Jim Redden “Snitch Culture”

5. Noa Davenport "Mobbing: Emotional Abuse in the American WorkPlace"

6. Ward Churchill, Jim Vander Wall “Cointelpro Papers”

7. Anna Funder “Stasiland”

8. Protectors of Privilege: Red Squads and Police Repression in Urban America

9. Victor Santoro “GASLIGHTING How To Drive Your Enemies Crazy “

10. Anthony Brina “Suburban Spies”

11. Stephen Knight “The Brotherhood”

12. Alex Constantine “The Covert War Against Rock”

13. Frank Donner “The Age of surveillance”

14. Niki F. Raapana "2020"

15. Dr. Andrew M. Lobaczewski. Political Ponerology: The science on the Nature of Evil.

16. Community Oriented Policing. A Systemic approach.


1. The lives of others. (A movie about covert investigations in the former East Germany)

2. The Matrix. (Sci-fi Movie.) Neo a target wakes up and realizes not only is he being watched without knowing why, but that the world is a lie, that has been created to pull the truth over people’s eyes.

**The one rule about this thread, was not to turn it into a perp fest*

Many times on the news you hear a report about a shooting, killing or violent incident and the person at the heart of the incident is passed off as mentally ill, and the society reacts by creating additional laws to protect themselves from the mentally ill.

What many in society still do not understand or realize is that there is a dark side to many of those shootings and violent incidents, there is a dark side that society would rather not have you know about. A dark side that happens masked just below the public’s eye and awareness, but that is often very real and traumatizing for the Targeted Individual.

Gang Stalking very real, very happening, and it's often just as targets have described. What is disgraceful are those who protect this system, lie, destroy targets. You want freedom, start removing the chains that bind you to this system, and protecting this lie.

Conspiracy forums discuss secrets and conspiracies all the time, but here is a big one, and a lot of people are a part of it. Now tell me again why people would reveal the truth about 9/11 when people cover and lie to protect this system? Right.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 01:27 PM
reply to post by Harassment101

One government to rule them all, using the snitches to find them. One surveillance society to bring them all in, and in their ignorance bind them.

Yet there is hope, even the smallest target can make a difference.

LOL your sig is awesome Harassment101. Does that make you Frodo then?

posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:11 PM
Gang stalking or organized mobbing does happen as a fact. I would like to say that it doesn't, but it does. Most of the people who experience this are the ones who are, well, on the Internet complaining about it and not the ones who are doing it. They are the ones who want the information out. They have experienced it. Like everything, because they are not on the "inside" they make assumptions that aren't necessarily accurate. They are assumptions, for the most part, as the mind attempts to put things together so you have to excuse some how is this really done. Let me suggest a few websites.

If you have visited these websites, well, you are beginning to be informed. It is astounding how all these stories sound the same. i was listening to Offramp NPR and listened to this reporter say some of the things that I have experienced. I was like amazing. Amazing that this goes on, and amazing that people are so caught up into Hollywood and they are not concerned about anything until it bites them and it will. If it bit me and I am a nobody, it will get others. I am amazed how stupid Americans are. I am amazed at how Americans help everyone in the world but don't notice what is happening on their own corner. In fact, I am appalled at it. I can't even listen to liberal media like Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky because of the hypocrisy. These people haven't a clue to what is happening to the people in this country and discussing other places is just chic and makes you that much more important. You need not go so far to find injustice.

Organized mobbing well, from my experience happens with mainly people who are uneducated. Though it is said you become a target because of politics, or because you are 'different', well that I do believe is true, but not necessarily. Remember, the people who are engaged in this are often called 'perps' for perpetrators are everything that you are. They are religious, they are atheist, they are gay, they are straight, they are conservative, they are liberal, they are black, they are white, they are every race, creed, ideology on the planet. That is the case. So who gets targeted and who gets to be a perp, is just who you know or what side you happen to fall on. The main difference is ethics. There are some people who will do such things against people who they don't know and haven't bothered them and their are people who will do anything.

What is the benefit? Well, who can really say unless you in fact know of what the gift was or is. Some people will 'cause stalk or mob' some require something in return. Who knows. Reason would dictate, yes, someone is getting something. Exactly what, I don't know. Honestly don't know. But, well, ask yourself this: outside of a stipend from the military, why did so many germans kill so many jewish people. What does a company gain by workplace mobbing? But it happens and, now, is well documented. Before it wasn't, you were just someone and really to this day is, someone who went crazy. THat is what they media will say and people are too busy with life to question anything. Plus, why bother. It is like 1984. It is possible to control all contrary thought. People conform to where the next check is coming from. Money buys alcohol, sex, toys, fun...things like the constitution mean nothing. We maintain the world just enough to have those things and that is about as deep as Americans are right now. The next jones and place to put their thing. Scarry? Yes because, well, there is evil in the world still. Nice if didn't have to worry about that but we still do.

posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:14 PM
For all those going through what is gang stalking it can be hell, and i think most probably its happening all over this world to individuals.

Its amazes me that people are so cruel, but thats life and people are really that bad. As long as the victim is by themselves the gang do not mind harassing someone non stop. Scum.

posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:39 PM
reply to post by andy1033

Soon enough, these types of people will become prey. They will be hunted down and thwarted out of the community. People that are money hungry, and material driven, well lets say that i don't think their time on this planet is long.

posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:39 PM
reply to post by andy1033

Soon enough, these types of people will become prey. They will be hunted down and thwarted out of the community. People that are money hungry, and material driven, well lets say that i don't think their time on this planet is long.

posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:45 PM
The level of organized mobbing or stalking depends, I assume, on who you are and how important you are and what you are involved with. So, if you are more more important and involved with organizations, well, than things are amped up on you. Many of us, I will say this of me, aren't anyone important. What we have done is pissed someone off who has the ability to make life intolerable. That is all. Again, who you are doesn't make much of a difference because the 'perps' are everything you are and have same views in most cases. In my case, I have experienced workplace discrimination and mobbing. It has happened job to job. Reason, I don't know. Some will say, well, have you done anything, are you a flat personality. Don't listen to any of this. I have met someone of the most rotten people on the job and they aren't being bothered and have long careers. I started off very sociable, was met with curled lips, iciness, rudeness, down right disrespect later to sabotaging of work, obscenity, degradation and only go worse from there. Well, that is enough to make you hate your job and the jerks you work with and not have anything to do with them, making work hell, miserable. Work should not hurt! And I work for the government assisting the needy. The worse of a employee the better. The phoney of an employee the better. Again, I pissed someone off some time ago and they had the power to take away my life anywhere I turned in this country. First you think it is just coincidence until a pattern is shown and, well, you connect with other people and their stories. But you must filter because, well, impressions can fly off the hook until you can justify them. So you read a post and, well, your unsure, because you don't know any more than this post. The person who wears the shoe knows where it pinches. The LA reporter who wrote on Daryl Gates put it very close to how this goes. Most of the people who do this aren't police officers though, they are ordinary citizens. That is when, you are experiencing community mobbing. You are attacked not only on the job, but your home, your home for pete's sake, places you frequent, people you are associated with, people you don't even know. The point is to further isolate the target. Like workplace mobbing, most of the targets are women. Yeah women are really a threat, especially when you have a higher IQ, your a "real terrorist". Better watchout the book squad is out to get you. They will hit you with a dictionary. Look out! The gives some of the tactics. I disagree with some of what Mark Rich has to say, like electronic harassment, but some of the other things are quite valid. Quite valid and are very similar to what David Johnston states. The word is slowly getting out to the ignoramuses. But no matter what, people will always have head in sand.
You think things are just bad luck at first, until, you hear other people's stories, become more aware, learn the tactics you knew but just didn't have any way to related to. In time you will learn more about the people and how they operate. The goal as stated, yes, to make you lose your life. I was actually texted messaged by someone who I dated name James Mwangi Thumu who told me I should commit suicide. Oh, this is a horror story. Mind you I am still living in this. I don't want to accept what Mark Rich and others say, that you will be mobbed out of work, homeless, going from shelter to shelter, place to place until your dead. I can't believe, I am not willing to accept that the people in this country will allow that to happen. Good people who fight for injustice everywhere in this world, who dealt with injustices everywhere in this world and have washed up on the shores of USA looking for hope and a chance to start again. I don't want to believe in that. Maybe I am just naive. I do want my chance to start again like many. I have to run from my country. But the bruises are hard to see. Like the abuser. I am abused and a victim.

posted on May, 15 2010 @ 04:14 PM
What you will experience and a TI or targeted individual is workplace mobbing in all forms, rumors not only at work but in community. You are targeted in the most important livelihood, your social network, your home. Most of us have a routine. We have places we frequent and feel comfortable. Those are targeted. Since most of us are women, well, your targeted when you date. When you Internet date. Your car is vandalized, your home entered, your family may turn on you in some instances. The the main source of instability is your job. If you don't have a job, well, dating is harder, fixing your car is harder, stability of home is hard. The goal is to destroy you. What ever benefit is gained by people who do it, is gained. Some times it is just the joy of being apart of a group. Being apart of a group makes you feel 'in', connected, better to be 'in' than out. I don' believe it is fear based because, well, people don't respond well to fear and in the case of workplace mobbing/harassment you can circle and out the henchman. So fear is not it really. It is the desire to feel in and the other benefits. Lifetime job security. You will do anything asked of you. Kinda like 1984 are you willing throw acid in a child's face if asked, yes, if it gets me in. Like the mafia. The USA of police/citizen mafia. Gruesome story. I dated a 'perp' for 3 yrs. I head the clues and didn't question them in the beginning. Ignored them, couldn't make heads or tails of them until later. I met James Mwangi Thumu at a Femi Kuti concert. He convinced me for a time that well being an automechanic he would be out past 10pm fixing cars. Because, well, at times I was with him. So believable. But, no, most mechanics don't work that late. The job he showed me wasn't were he worked. The home he showed me, wasn't were he live. It was a cousins or a friend's home. Lied that was an engineer, well, guess it was well known I like people who can build things as a personal preference. So he said all the right things. Problems occurred when I questioned later as things didn't add up, where are you clothes? Where is one thing that belongs to you, one thing. There was always an answer but the main thing I was becoming a bother and accuser. I first well, you say, give the person time to learn you, feel comfortable. Maybe that is the problem. Settle his fears as he creates them in you. No, don't waste your time with a 'perp' they are not human, they have no compassion like an animal. When they show it, it is fake. Well time went by, he knew where I lived, we would break up, he would show up where I lived, he told me he was gay. Problems with my car happened. Harassment, insults. I couldn't hold the person accountable because I didn't have an couldn't serve restraining order. Well this just sounds like you dated the wrong guy you say. How does related to topic? I went to the Fullerton police with tons of evidence and would not do anything. I hired two PIs who just took my money. One told me he was watching football and just hadn't time to attempt to find and serve as paid to. Attempt to serve restraining orders are usually done within 24 hours. One took me for a small amount of money the next took me for lots more and just won't do the job. I got harassing letters, smashed windows, threats hate texts, why not kill yourself and police would do nothing. In fact, police make 'me' out to be the problem. Excuse me, I am the one with the smashed window and # stolen and threats. I got a call from Montclair police department an officer who stated he was trying to 'help james out.' Items I gave to a supervisor at work were later found in my car after trying to repair the window. I told James because of the treats I would go to the police. His response "the police already know about you." I thought he was just pulling my leg, now maybe true. That is just true. I was never to know where lived and worked so if I complained I was stunted. It only gets worse.

[edit on 15-5-2010 by TI5000]

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