Originally posted by Dock9
There have always been informants. We know that
I am saying there is an informant network similar to what was in East Germany.
But you're claiming (in line with forum-claimants who insist they're the targets of years' long Gang Stalking/Stalking Gangs) that groups of
individuals in obviously organised gangsare stalking targets '24/7' --- are breaking into their homes --- are targeting their
reproductive organs -- are subjecting them to 'psychic attacks' !
No I am saying that they are community citizen informants. Thus already organized. Yes that targets are being monitored for years at a time.
Yes gaslighting is happening. Just like people would use vigilante tactics on pedophiles, they are using underhanded tactics on these people.
The reproductive organs and eugenics. Though the men also have their lower anatomies targeted as well, there is more concern for the woman in the
The psychic attack was not my claim. However let me respond to it.
Emotional Vampires: Dealing With People Who Drain You Dry
There are dozens of books about these types of people. The leeches who gain pleasure from harming others seem to have quite a few of these types in
These are the claims !
And there are those in this thread who're agreeing and claimiing to BE victim of these thousands-of-hours targetting !
We've all read the posts in numerous fora
The individual sets him/herself apart as WORTHY of million-dollar victimisation/stalking campaigns
See again you are not paying attention to what has been said. The Stasi had a network of informants in place. They did not need to spend millions on
one person, because the network is in place. Does the train conductor spend millions to take you to work? No cause the system is in place. So once a
target is added to a list, very minimal resources have to be reallocated to monitor that person.
These people BELIEVE they are worthy of elaborate, complicated, expensive targeting campaigns to which alleged others are prepared to devote
their entire lives, money, energy, etc.
We saw this happen in East Germany, we saw it used in Russia. America has gone through McCarthyism. It's all been done before in one form or another.
which of course is narcissism gone mad !
No it's a very stark reality of the informant society that we have become, that people must wake up to.
Then the thread switches course and attempts to validate itself by referencing Anti-Terror surveillance --- which is an entirely different kettle of
The thread never switched course. You said that people who believed that they were under this type of surveillance were delusional, narcissistic.
Examples were promptly demonstrated to prove you wrong.
and which Ministers are required to justify
If you read any of the articles, you will see that local councils have been granted these powers.
just as they're required to justify the enormous costs
of such operations
Yet such operations are happening without being justified.
So make up your mind, please, as to what kind of 'Gang Stalking/Stalking Gang' operations you seek to expose
My mind is made up and it's been made up. It's you who seems unable to read the information presented.
Are you seeking to draw attention to the largely fictional claims by deluded individuals claiming to be the CENTRE of an elaborate, complicated,
technological and 'psychic' series of attacks ?
Real targets claiming that community policing programs are being used to create a network of informants, just like what they had in East Germany, and
those networks are being used to monitor and watch people, cause innocent people are being flagged and added to those lists?
Or are you seeking to discuss organised, governmental and other intimidatory campaigns aimed at whistle-blowers, activists and assorted 'potential
terrorists' and illegal immigrants, etc.
As it's been made clear, workplaces are using these list to target many of the above, so the two lines of questioning are not divisible. Remember the
network of informants is organized by the state. Just like East Germany. There is a pattern with who get's targeted that is very disturbing. Meaning
this is being used on activists, whistleblowers, among others.
Because they're different species
No they are cross bread species, if you have community investigations opened.
The claims you quoted in your OP state that Gang Stalkers/Stalker Gangs DECIDE to target an individual. And these are the claims of the deluded which
we see most often in conspiracy forums who claim 'stalkers' are after them ... are following them ... are displacing objects in their home ... are
filming them ... are swapping teams as soon as they're noticed, etc.
The claim is that once targeted, the informants go after the person, and systemically destroys that person. See how that works?
And it's the ranting of the delusional.
I agree that your rantings are starting to sound a bit delusional, your inability to click on links and read articles, and evidence presented is not
that much fun either, but I am happy to bear with you.
Because as I said in my first post, NO ONE surrenders their own life and interests simply in order to follow some individual around '24/7'
.... just for the heck of it
As I have said, the average citizen informant gives up 15-30 minutes. It's hardly a dent out of their day, lunch hour etc. When you have a league of
citizens taking turn, one hardly notices. It's like having 40 people take turns car pooling.
Yet those who claim to be victim of 'Gang Stalking/Stalking Gangs' believe just that. They believe they're of such immense INTEREST, that
up to 50 or a 100 others are focused on them
They believe that communities have been turned into informant networks, where monitoring under community policing programs is now possible, where an
individual can be watched 24/7.
On the other hand, if someone is a political activist or a religious nut, then sure, governments might decide you 'pose a risk' and they may
submit an application for funds in order an official surveillance-team might monitor your activities, your associates, etc. Usually all this time and
money uncovers nothing comprising a real threat. But in order to justify the time and money devoted to the operation, those responsible will tart up
the reports. And the media will tart it up even more for public consumption
Yet in the case of Jane Clift we see that you can be flagged and people placed where you go, if you are on a list.
The end result, as a rule, is payment (from public funds) of compensation to the surveilled individual
When you have an informant network, the funds are already being allocated, watching one extra person does nothing.
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