What might really be happening in Washington State?

Thanks for all the great posts you guys...

The fish thing has me stumped. Very strange. Do you have eagles around? Maybe one dropped it? I have no clue about the planes...but have noticed quite a few jets going east over us too...ing up your way.

My chickens gave us a few eggs yesterday and are still eating normally. I imagine they were affected by the changes in the earth too?

Thankyou for the article about the radiation. I am always glad to read something positive!!!!

I went ahead and did a plot of the tremors since the begining of the year. Over three thousands in less than three months. You can clearly see where the subduction zone is with this image. Scary stuff.....


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ETA: I just saw yet another decent sized quake pop up for Northern california, and I think they might be significant. Here is a very limited list of mid-Northern/west california. It's only the ones above 2.5,or else the list is way too long. And while they often get quakes, when you start seeing them get bigger like this, this often it is time to pay a bit more attention:

MAP 3.1 2011/03/17 17:30:47 36.622 -121.228 5.6 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
MAP 3.4 2011/03/17 17:18:30 36.622 -121.229 5.8 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
MAP 3.3 2011/03/17 15:29:27 38.809 -122.788 3.8 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 2.7 2011/03/17 13:28:34 38.810 -122.791 3.4 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 2.9 2011/03/17 06:44:41 40.387 -125.058 1.3 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 3.0 2011/03/17 05:55:34 35.689 -121.114 4.7 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
MAP 3.5 2011/03/17 02:13:55 40.648 -124.760 6.6 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 2.6 2011/03/16 03:15:32 38.778 -122.756 0.9 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 3.0 2011/03/12 03:41:35 41.092 -125.437 27.2 OFF THE COAST OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 2.8 2011/03/10 20:49:07 36.653 -121.268 3.4 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA

Great image west coast, that is a very telling picture and I can't help but wonder...

Today I'm feeling the moving/shaking much stronger (as well as more frequently and lasting longer). It's become more and more difficult for me to dismiss it as imagination. I've been writing the times down when I'm able to, maybe it will be useful information. It's accompanied with vertigo/disorientation, and also ringing in the ears that is more intense/loud than it has been. Oh yeah, and intense pressure again. No headache though.

It feels like all of this comes in waves, like ocean waves coming through, and then is fine for a bit and then it happens again. Anyone else?

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If you can list some times and maybe stations (general location if not) I will see what I can dig up later tonight.

I did notice earlier this morning that the mircoseisms were increasing again. That seems to go along with some of the physical symptoms we experience.

Anyone else suddenly nauseous since this afternoon??


The Gulf of California, Mexico is still really hoping. Keep in mind these are only the bigger mags.

MAP 4.4 2011/03/18 01:44:14 25.495 -109.887 10.2 85 km ( 53 mi) WSW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.2 2011/03/17 10:52:42 25.324 -109.696 10.0 84 km ( 52 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.0 2011/03/14 01:43:49 25.440 -109.662 10.0 72 km ( 45 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.6 2011/03/13 16:07:34 25.285 -109.748 10.0 91 km ( 56 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.0 2011/03/13 05:54:25 25.276 -110.076 10.1 115 km ( 71 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.6 2011/03/13 02:50:11 25.442 -109.763 23.6 79 km ( 49 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.5 2011/03/12 21:58:39 25.308 -109.837 10.2 95 km ( 59 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.3 2011/03/12 20:16:58 25.423 -109.730 10.0 78 km ( 48 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.7 2011/03/12 17:54:18 25.456 -109.690 22.2 73 km ( 45 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 5.1 2011/03/12 17:13:01 25.466 -109.727 10.0 75 km ( 46 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 5.3 2011/03/12 14:11:04 25.396 -109.652 12.1 75 km ( 47 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 5.5 2011/03/12 13:26:02 25.350 -109.930 17.6 98 km ( 61 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.4 2011/03/12 12:03:42 25.260 -109.964 10.1 108 km ( 67 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico

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Yep! Nauseous as all heck and I have no idea why-- even at my sickest I usually never experience nausea... like with colds.... weird, cause I'm in the foothills on the eastern side of the Cascades... Okanogan Valley.

I'll just put todays (March 17) so it isn't so much. I also have some from the 15th. I tried to look at the time immediately, but it might be a few minutes off. I didn't get a time for all of the ones I felt either. These are all around the Redmond/Woodinville area. I also looked up the UTC time (& to a 24 hour time format) to make it easier (hopefully, correctly).

Mar 17 PST/UTC
1:53pm PST - 20:53 UTC
2:02pm PST - 21:02 UTC
2:04pm PST - 21:04 UTC
2:24pm PST - 21:24 UTC
2:50pm PST - 21:50 UTC
2:53pm PST - 21:53 UTC
3:10pm PST - 22:10 UTC

Mar 17 PST / Mar 18 UTC
6:12pm PST - 01:12 UTC
6:14pm PST - 01:14 UTC
6:18pm PST - 01:18 UTC
6:21pm PST - 01:21 UTC

Some have the times close together because I felt it, it continued, and then it "hit" again so I recorded a new time. As you can see it seemed to come in clusters/waves. Also, there was no wind here today and the temperature was in the mid 40s F - lower 50s F.

I am picking up a significant quake in puget sound right now...I am not feeling it, but I got a huge dizzy spell at the same time.

Looks over 4.0....hope this isn't the precurser I was talking about earlier!

I think this is going to be one of the closes stations....right smack dab over the subduction zone. That's why I have the station pulled up on GEE. TA. D03D


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ETA: USGS is listing a 2.4
sure looks bigger than that


Magnitude 2.4
Date-Time Friday, March 18, 2011 at 04:34:50 UTC
Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 09:34:50 PM at epicenter

Location 47.282°N, 122.683°W
Depth 28 km (17.4 miles) set by location program
Region PUGET SOUND REGION, WASHINGTON
Distances 4 km (3 miles) WSW (244°) from Artondale, WA
6 km (4 miles) NW (312°) from Fox Island, WA
9 km (6 miles) SW (235°) from Gig Harbor, WA
17 km (11 miles) WNW (285°) from Tacoma, WA
46 km (29 miles) SW (215°) from Seattle, WA

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 0.8 km (0.5 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST= 66, Nph= 66, Dmin=13 km, Rmss=0.3 sec, Gp= 29°,
M-type=duration magnitude (Md), Version=0
Source Pacific Northwest Seismograph Network

Event ID uw03180434



Note the depth....not on the shallow fault line. I don't like them that deep in this area. Like I said before, if we start seeing bigger ones in this area that are not shallow...we need to REALLY pay close attention.

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Anyone else suddenly nauseous since this afternoon??

Yes

Upgraded to a 2.9 and deeper. Still looked bigger than that though:


Magnitude 2.9
Date-Time Friday, March 18, 2011 at 04:34:50 UTC
Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 09:34:50 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 47.288°N, 122.691°W
Depth 31.9 km (19.8 miles) set by location program
Region PUGET SOUND REGION, WASHINGTON
Distances 5 km (3 miles) WSW (254°) from Artondale, WA
7 km (4 miles) NW (312°) from Fox Island, WA
9 km (6 miles) WSW (241°) from Gig Harbor, WA
18 km (11 miles) WNW (287°) from Tacoma, WA
46 km (29 miles) SW (216°) from Seattle, WA

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 0.1 km (0.1 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST= 73, Nph= 73, Dmin=13 km, Rmss=0.34 sec, Gp= 29°,
M-type=duration magnitude (Md), Version=1
Source Pacific Northwest Seismograph Network

Event ID uw03180434


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This 2.9 is pretty much in the same area as the Nisqually Quake.
Nisqually Quake location

Westcoast, did you see this?????

Everett Neighborhood Is Sinking

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You know, I did see that and thought the same thing. However, after reading it I think it has more to do with ground saturation and living on a hillside...but ya never know.

It was disturbing tonight when at the store I took the last two 1gallon jugs of water. Almost ALL the water was cleared off the shelf. As well as milk, toilet paper, paper towlels and a several other supplies much lower than I have seen them before. I have to admit that I only needed milk and bread but I ended up spending 200.

I think most people are concerned about radiation....I worry about the possible quake tomorrow!!!

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Wow... now that is scary to see store shelves bare like that. I don't blame you for spending what you did, getting what you could. If I walked in and saw store shelves bare, I would definitely do the same thing. Survival instincts kicking in.

I too figured ground saturation has to do with it. But that blew my mind and considering all the recent world events, how do we really know?!

In the Quake Watch 2011 thread, member "inthemistandfog" posted this article. I responded and pointed to this thread, asking them to share. I see they have not, so I will.

This has MY knees knocking, and I'm not on the west coast! The very last paragraph of the article, especially!

The common view is that there is a one-in-seven chance of an earthquake of magnitude 9.0 or higher occurring along the Cascadia subduction zone within the next 50 years. More recent studies suggest the probability of that happening is more like one-in-three. Those odds suggest greater attention needs to be paid to preparations for the inevitable inundation. This past week’s pictures from Japan show just how dire, even in a wealthy country, the circumstances following a megaquake and tsunami can be.

Megaquakes - The Difference Engine

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Where is momouth in proxcimity to your valley?........LOL------sorry about typo, for the great ambein has wrapped her soothing tenticles around my soul

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Yup... I have to admit I fell into the herd mentality a bit...I am blaming it on that anyways.

And yes, I figure it is from ground saturation, but any time you see a large crack in the ground like that, it just makes you go hmmmmmmm.....

That article is scary, but not a surprise to me. I find it even more alarming that SO many people here haven't a clue. I am trying to take advantage of all the attention a West quake is getting this weekend to encourage people to be prepared. I even plugged it at a CPR class I taught today. It can't hurt.


These quakes have me a bit nervous. The one I posted last night? Well, there have been two more very small ones in the same spot tonight. This is REALLY abnormal and I am sure the geologists are watching closely. Normally, you wouldn't see a quake this small posted off-hours. Could these be foreshocks? They are small, but I am afraid they could be:

MAP 1.5 2011/03/19 05:58:16 47.285 -122.688 27.0 5 km ( 3 mi) WSW of Artondale, WA
MAP 1.4 2011/03/19 02:23:47 47.296 -122.671 29.2 3 km ( 2 mi) W of Artondale, WA
MAP 2.9 2011/03/18 04:34:50 47.288 -122.691 31.9 5 km ( 3 mi) WSW of Artondale, WA

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this isn't really the place for it, or maybe it is - but I was on the Jim Berkland thread last night and saw a link to a Nat Geo show "countdown to catastrophe" (I think it was) anyways, I was watching that on my iphone in bed while doing hair for the next morning (this morning) - So i watched what I could, until it stopped buffering so i went to bed about 130 - woke up again around 3am I think, and all I could remember is that I had a dream where there was the 'Mega Quake' in Pac north west and I remember fire, the giant wave & people screaming, as soon as I woke up I felt the need to hop on here and post, I felt really desperate to get on here and say something about it and I grabbed my phone to do just that, and I must have passed out again.

Probably nothing - i'm almost positive it was because of what I was watching before bed, and what we've been discussing on here recently - but it was very unnerving! Thought i'd mention it with all the 19th-26th talk going on! I'm hoping these shocks you've mentioned aren't foreshocks Westcoast! I'd have to say, though i've never been, WA State is the one place on earth i'd love to visit, so i'll be so devastated 'when' the quake comes.

Question - The way they talk about the Juan De Fuca, and the sheer size of it, being what, 600mi long and however wide, do you think it has the potential to be the largest quake since our records began? Just the programs i've heard, they seem to be describing something much worse then what i've heard a 9 or 9.1 described before - it is possible we could see above a 9.5? Do any of our fault lines have the potential to produce a 10? that's too scary a thought so I'll stop now!

Thank you for sharing your dream...I have heard of a couple now. Like you said, it gets hard to know if it is from what we are watching/talking about or....something else? I know first-hand that dreams can be prophetic.

As to the quakes. Excellent question. The Juan De Fuca, although large is not believed to be capable of creating as large a quake as the cascadia subduction zone because of the type of movement involved. The juan de fuca is a slip-fault. Meaning there are two plates rubbing up against each other going in opposite directions. The edges are jagged, so pressure builds up from the friction and eventually 'gives' allowing for more movement until it catches again...creating a quake. This is why there are so many small earthquakes on it. The more little ones there are, the better. They tend to relieve the stress,

Now the cascadia subduction zone is a different beast and theorized to be capable of produces perhaps the largest quake in the world. I am going off memory here....and I am too tired and need to go to bed so I just don't have time to look it up right now. (I'll double check my numbers later ) But I think that the Juan De Fuca isn't expected to be greater than a 7.5 maybe 8.0 at the most. While our subduction zone can be as big as 9.5....and some say 10.0. This is because the subduction zone is one plate thrusting under another. These also get locked....but when it gives, the movement is much greater because of the plate moving and pushing up under the other. This is a very basic description, but it gives you an idea. The subducton zone is the Juan De Fuca plate shoving down under the North American Plate.

This is why I get concerned about the Japan quake affecting it. See, Japan also sits on the North American Plate, and where it and the pacific plate clash is where their quake originated. The Pacific plate is pushing up against the Juan De Fuca Plate, which is shoving under the North American Plate. Now if the North American Plate moved 66 feet....somethings just gotta give.

Here is a picture showing how it all works out:





Hope this helps in understanding. The potential quake off-shore cali....and also running down the middle of california would also be devastating. We have to keep in mind that anything above 7.0 is just HUGE. I doesn't take a 9.0 for major destruction, I mean...look at New Zealand!!! The mega quake in Washington though...that goes beyond destruction. We are talking about the whole coastline and peninsula possibly disappearing and giant tsunami that would most likely hit most of the west coast and yes....Japan.

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I looked at those Artondale ones earlier today and thought it seemed odd although I know nothing of the history of the area. Also the 3 over Waterville/Entiat way.
I'm half expecting the quake dots to join up from yellowstone to Seattle and from Utah to Califonia and Utah to Yellowstone. Except for Oregon, there's almost a circle starting to form of earthquake dots on Google Earth.
Is it possible that this 'circle of quakes is along the path of the edges of the Juan de Fuca or subduction area and at its melting depth it is feeding Yellowstone?

Well, here is something!

CNN at 4 am this fine March 19th super Moon Day, they have a teaser story before the commercial about a crack that opened in a neighborhood in Washington State. It opened a while back but in the last few days is getting bigger and might swallow a house. Well, I waited with bated breath to find out where it was and to my great surprise and immediate concern... they say it's in Everett!

Have you told us about this WC???

eta link
www.king5.com...

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Woa! That's alarming...
There's a thread here on ATS :- 'EARTHQUAKE PREDICTION CALCULATER - SCARY ACCURATE' where the guy is saying that, with certain astrolgical alignments, the earth litterally gets pulled.
Could this be to blame for what's happening in Everett and other places or is it a result of recent worldwide earthquakes causing knock on tectonic disturbances, OR are they one and the same thing...?
Whichever, I pray people stay aware and keep safe.