BAR/ARC UFOs - March 4, 2010, Pennsylvania, page 1
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reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 03:05 PM by Grey Magic
This looks Fascinating!

And Damian-007, use preview first and after that reply.


reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 03:07 PM by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by SaturnFX



G'day SaturnFX.....

Springer has agreed to consign all her existing material & all new threads pertaining to her to the hoax forum.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I will let Springer know about this thread so he can do the same with it.

Edit to add: Gee that guy's fast

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 15-3-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]


reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 04:59 PM by SaturnFX
I knew there was a reason I kept her subscription...

a hoaxer hoaxes really great stuff, not films airplanes...all her videos were airplanes except this one...this stumped me and there is not a single comment yet as to anything it could be...just a omg, its her...toss it into hoax quick.,

can someone point out to me what the hoax is in any of her videos? You can point out of course a delusional woman whom will see a UFO in everything flying in the sky, but where is the hoax itself?

in saying that...explain to me why this specific video does not deserve a comment as to what it is. If I muted the audio and changed the account on this, no doubt people would find it very intriguing, yet because the camera was held by a questionably delusional person, we must toss out the baby with the bathwater.

interesting approach. if CSPAN was to capture a UFO, would you have to put that in the politics forum?

Hoax requires a couple things, such as a willingness to distort facts and a way to profit from it. This chick sells nothing...if anything, she has spent tons of cash on her equiptment...as far as willingly distorting facts, her previous videos shows she will not create fake videos...because they are just airplanes..she might be confused, but she is not a hoax.

Blossom: Hoaxer. she sold books out of channeled nonsense
Meirs: Hoaxer. Sells books and has a cult out of secret meetings and fake pics

She is nutty for sure, but even a nutter can occasionally get something worthwhile. keep your camera pointed at the sky long enough and your bound to get something worthwhile.

Time for me to look through the rest of the forum to see what else is here..wonder how much other stuff got buried unfairly.


reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 05:09 PM by expat2368
reply to post by SaturnFX



At least this time I totally agree with you, except I don't think the part about all of her other videos being airplanes is correct.

She is onto something, I spoke with one of her neighbors who said she had photographed the same orbs and up close within a few feet away.

I also wonder how many things have been buried that should not have been.

[edit on 15-3-2010 by expat2368]


reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 05:13 PM by SaturnFX
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Heres the thing...all the videos I seen appeared easily identified...from airplanes to bugs. I typically dont even watch her videos as of late but this one actually got the attention of another person I am subscribed to which tends to put out only decent stuff...

Ultimately, if something could be something else, then it should be tossed out...some of her videos are a bit interesting...with the no sound or whatnot, but its not overly interesting. Most of the anomolies could be put down to a variety of explanations, from altitude, different types of airplanes, angle of flight, etc....

This video...total enigma..mostly because it remains stationary when the camera moves, else I would have simply called it a lens flare


reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 05:16 PM by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by SaturnFX



G'day SaturnFX

As I just stated to expat in the other current thread about this woman.....

If you have a look through some of the previous threads about her, you can see clearly & unequivocally that she is shining lasers directly at the front of aircraft that are on approach for a landing.

If you can't find that material, let me know & will I find links for you later on when I've finished my work for the day.

I will add that by posting her videos, you will encourage her illegal & dangerous behaviour.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 05:30 PM by SaturnFX
Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day SaturnFX

As I just stated to expat in the other current thread about this woman.....

If you have a look through some of the previous threads about her, you can see clearly & unequivocally that she is shining lasers directly at the front of aircraft that are on approach for a landing.

If you can't find that material, let me know & will I find links for you later on when I've finished my work for the day.

I will add that by posting her videos, you will encourage her illegal & dangerous behaviour.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


I never said she was sane...she isnt. I never said she is ethical. I personally dont like her videos as each one feels like 10 minutes of my life was sucked away watching what I can see in my own sky at almost any given time.
What I did say is...hey, look at this, weird light thingie...what is it.

instead of any explanation (in the forum, Springer did suggest something in a U2U which is plausable but has some minor issues), it becomes a character assassination fest because you lot dont like her. I dont need to see her previous videos, I dont like them, they are crap and she has lost her mind...but this video in particular is different. Thats all I am saying.

If someone shot 20 people and videoed them, you would think him insane...but on the 20th one, if the body exploded into some reptilian lizard man, does that mean ignore the 20th video simply because of how he got it?

gah, out of all the threads I have made, this is the one thread I soo dont want to be defending because I am ultimately on the other side of the fence casting stones also...ok, I give up...keep it in the hoax forum and ignore it. I personally dont care...just think its a pity that the woman was judged moreso than the video to dismiss the video...but I guess source counts also.

-edit: airplane UFOs killed my spelling

[edit on 15-3-2010 by SaturnFX]


reply posted on 3-4-2010 @ 06:59 AM by KIZZZY
reply to post by expat2368




Now you see that is where I have to disagree with you. All her videos have been very nicely refuted by a FlacidMerc and before him by a seeingufozpa.
What is shown in these videos are the topography/terrain, logistics of light towers and vectoring routes put out by the FAA etc.

How surprising is it that all of Alison's 'ORBS THAT MORPH INTO FAKE PLANES" follow these very same vector routes?

One of course has to keep in mind the "Optical Illusions" of her so-called 'Mini-suns" which in reality are the head-lights of a plane coming head on giving the illusion that it is hovering when in fact it is moving and all the other lights on the plane are obscured by major lights that seemingly merge until.....yes until the plane turns on the vector route...that is when Alison claims that it MORPHS....what a coincidence eh?

Yessireee, Alison sees marathon ORBS. Now, that none of you find this amazing is very strange indeed. Funny though, they all have the VERY SAME ROUTE each and every day.


reply posted on 3-4-2010 @ 03:55 PM by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by SaturnFX



SaturnFX.....

You state this is about a "character assassination" & that we "don't like" the woman.

That's not it at all.

It's about her continuing habit of hoaxing this material & shining lasers at the cockpits of passenger planes that are on approach to an airport.

We'd be saying the same thing if Elle McPherson was the person doing it!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


reply posted on 19-6-2010 @ 10:57 PM by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by SaturnFX



Looks like a waste of night vision video equipment.
With so many agents on the PA sightings there might be
something going on there.

Go to any large parking lot with a good view, especially outside
any UFO or Conspiracy Conference as they are ordered to
observe the participants, and use night vision goggles to see
any in hover. If lucky to see them on station for a long time
you might see the suspension beam, the 'veritable rope"
of suspension Tesla spoke of for his airship.
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