Final destination Iran?

Final destination Iran?

www.heraldscotland.com

Hundreds of powerful US “bunker-buster” bombs are being shipped from California to the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean in preparation for a possible attack on Iran.

The Sunday Herald can reveal that the US government signed a contract in January to transport 10 ammunition containers to the island. According to a cargo manifest from the US navy, this included 387 “Blu” bombs used for blasting hardened or underground structures.

“They are gearing up totally for the destruct...

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Looks like everything starts to be ready in place!

Afterwards its easy to be wise, but you have to be blind, if you not see what its obvious to come. Large scale preparations has taken place for over a year now - Israel has done their preparations, hell - even gas masks are given to people by army.

All ME states are saying the same - Israel is beginning new war, and Saudies and UAE have lift fast their readiness and Indian ocean is highly armed for war.

I just see how these news are jus nails in the coffins, and soon we hear the first part of destruction to come, and in my eyes - there is still no reason to these wars at all.

Iran is a soverein state who have all rights to weaponry they need, as all others. This is just banksters madness.

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S AND FLAGS

“They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran,” said Dan Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at the University of London, co-author of a recent study on US preparations for an attack on Iran. “US bombers are ready today to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours,” he added.

a few hour and no iran!? bit of a long stretch isn't it!?

I'm really unsure if the US gov would be silly ernough to advertise their intentions.. since they might as well have written "For Iran, with big kisses, from the USA" on the containers...

Besides any attack from now on has the USA stamp on it, which I am sure the Obama adminstration would seek everything to avoid..

Edit to add: if such weapons are being sent then I would actually assume this news means they are already there..

[edit on 15/3/10 by thoughtsfull]

They(Israel) plan to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities.

Funny how Iran cooperates with IAEA's demands and signed the nuclear non proliferation treaty while Israel has done neither of the 2.

What makes Iran so special? The Straits of Mollucca are much more important in the grand scheme of things, and about as far from Diego Garcia. Why is Iran so paranoid?

Why would the US not want to be implicated? Why deny something when you can easily spin it in your favour? Turn a negative in to a positive.

Instead of invading a country who has not attacked anyone in centuries, we're removing the axis of evil and promoting freedom! Instead of negligibly bombing facilities housing nuclear material, were protecting you from being nuked 7000 miles out of range!

I always pcture the American Dad episode where they go to Saudi Arabia and the jets drop bombs that explode in to bikini girls giving out beer and shirts that say Democracy on them lmao...

So let me get this straight, this guy get's wind of one of millions of military hardware shipments going around the globe and this one just happens to be the one that's going to be the one we use on Iran? And how exactly does he happen to be the one that has this knowledge? Does he have exclusive contacts within the US Military that know what munitions are going to be used where?
That's not how things work in the US Military, I guarantee it.
We make much larger stockpiles of munitions than these and we certainly wouldn't allow a major violation of OPSEC like this to happen.
Remember the general location of the Indian Ocean, this little shipment could be used in any hotspot that we're engaged in right now. As of right now, we have forces deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Horn of Africa, etc.
Also what makes people think this isn't just a shipment for the Navy to use if it has to resupply in theater? Easier to refuel, resupply, etc. right there in the middle of the Indian Ocean instead of heading all the way back to the CONUS or Europe.

Lol here we go again.

Destruction tape on cue:

1) Fly fancy alleged anti gravity stealth planes and non anti gravity stealth planes - destroy any infrastructure that's really expensive to replace and needs specialised assistance from multinational corporations.
2) Destroy anything remotely linked to the millitary. If it's collateral civillian damage then they were sheltering insurgents.
3) Attempt to take out the pockets of millitary.
4) then try to take out the Basij, with figures of between 400,000 men to 11 million men. These men are civillians when they do not have a weapon, unless you can read minds or they are careless.
5) get stuck in another quagmire with no bid contracts and a growing coffin count.
6) rewind the tape and put it in another countries vcr ^_^

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And what I see its happening in diplomatic field...

Oren: Worst crisis with US since '75

AIPAC urges White House to tone down rhetoric, says situation “very worrying.”

www.jpost.com...

This poliical game just days after Biden loudly promised 100% partnership with US and Israel - we see suddenly that "...no, no, no!"

Yeah right!

Israel is eager to step to next phase of planned acts. After promise of full quarantees its needed to show to world that US is sovereign nation from Israeli politics. Who will start the war - Israel ofcourse - and now is time to separate those states to re-marry them again "under attacks".

I see attack to Iran will happen like its years predicted. Israel will begin those at any moment, when they have shown to their people that Israel is "suddenly left alone to deal with Iranian threat."

When "US is taking steps away from Israel and searching for diplomatic solutions" and attack will occur - Iran does see the truth and retaliate to US targets - then media shows that USA was under attack and did just defence against Iranian aggressions... "We were not with Israel!" - They scream.

This is just part of war of words - nothing is really changed in couple of days, and what Israel and USA is after - is just excuse for US intervention to coming war, what I see will start at any moment now. Media campaign needs to show US as peacemaker instead of aggressor, what they truly are.

Dont forget the facts - announcement of new settlements was not mistake or accident, but planned media game to gain momentum for planned Iranian war. Biden and Obama sings with same mouth.

These bunkerbuster shipped to region, those are facts - not words.

More fearmongering in Israeli media...

Iran tried to buy nuclear bomb from Pakistan as early as 1987

Iran attempted to buy a nuclear bomb from Pakistan as early as 1987, a leading Middle East analyst has told Haaretz.

Documents obtained by Simon Henderson, a research fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and a former journalist, offer crucial evidence that Iran's nuclear program is not wholly for civilian purposes as it claims - but aimed at developing an atomic bomb.

Henderson told Haaretz he has acquired material written by the scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan - popularly known as the father of Pakistan's bomb program - while under house arrest between 2005 and 2009.

www.haaretz.com...

Originally posted by spec_ops_wannabe
And how exactly does he happen to be the one that has this knowledge?

Good point, I suppose though he is a Bit of an "Expert" on this issue?

“They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran,” said Dan Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at the University of London

As OP Link

Also what makes people think this isn't just a shipment for the Navy to use if it has to resupply in theater?

I didnt Know the Navy flew Stealths?

They cant use Aircraft carriers can they?

A Resupply ship, as used every day would be used would it not to directly resupply any Navy Ships?

The Bunker Buster Bombs are no longer being used in Iraq Afghanistan are they not?

The bunkers and cave systems are cleared, so this tends to make me think there is some credence or at least some forward planning to this story.

That is the need for large amounts of Bunker Busting bombs to be used, and as the US is not currently engaged with any conflict where bunkers or such like are being targetted it seems to be "New" targets by default?

I think this is worth keeping an eye on.

Kind Regards,

Elf

Watch out for "fnords"

If this made it into the news, then it was propably wanted.
Its propaganda in the making,
If it would serve another agenda then we never would have heard of it.

reply to post by MischeviousElf


Google News Search - Yemen

Google News Search - Somalia

Now look at this and ask yourself, who is really calling the shots in the Horn of Africa?
The US has far more targets to go after right now than fearmongering with Iran.

Oh and look at this lovely little thing:
Pentagon Says It Will Bomb in Somalia to Wipe Out Resistance

If we really wanted to take out Iranian nuclear facilities and likewise, we wouldn't need bunker busters delivered by stealth fighter. We have far more capabilities than that to choose from.

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I was actually getting ready to post that these were more likely meant for Somalia, you beat me to it. I think this expert may have gotten it wrong this time.While the info may have been leaked as a "warning " to Iran the actual use of the weapons is far more likely with Somalia.

Originally posted by spec_ops_wannabe
reply to post by MischeviousElf

 

If we really wanted to take out Iranian nuclear facilities and likewise, we wouldn't need bunker busters delivered by stealth fighter. We have far more capabilities than that to choose from.

I am not sure to be honest.

I dont really see any option to be used in Iran unless "Boots on the Ground" were used?

It is well documented that many of the Facilities that the US/Israel and others seem worried about, are in fact underground in hardened shelters.

So besides Bunker Busters or Special Forces there is no other option than to use these weapons. Maybe you are aware of another Hardware/Stratagies that could be used?

And considering that the Iranians have Advanced Russian SAM's they would of course use Stealths?

From your views I would see it the other way around, that is yes there is likely to be action in Somali etc.

However that is where they would use conventional planes and munitions, I didnt think the Somali infrastructure and capabilities allowed for deep and hardened very advanced underground bases?

And certainly not any Nuclear facilities.

I fear more than anything by default Israel taking uni latereral action, forcing a follow up by the USA/Britain etc as the ball would then be rolling, and the strategic implications for Iraq and general middle East Chaos if Israel is then at conflict, with Syria, Iran et al, that the US etc will have no option than to then disable and render impotent the Iranian Military.

They Lost nearly a million men against the Iraqi's, I am sure they would be prepared to loose many more against Israel (not the Iranian people but the hardline few at the top).

Iraq is between Israel and Iran, Turkey is there, if Israel forces first contact I think the full and total engagement would be very swift as to not do so would leave the whole Middle East in flames..... the real worry being the knowledge that everyone knows that Israel would use Nuclear Weapons if it came under similair but bigger attack than the six day war.

All of this may explain the current diplomatic problems being reported between Israel USA Britain etc.

SPRING is the time for any attcak as the weather and desert conditions.

Israel has been stating for many years they will go it alone and never ever let Iran have access to functioning Nuclear weapons.

It is unwise imho to not take this seriously.

Kind Regards,

Elf

Best case scenario: Israel and US continue wiht their strong disagreements leading to a loss of brotherly partnership which stops Israel from attacking Iran because they will not have backup

Worst case scenario: Israel attacks Iran, then the US joins in to defend Israel. Iran-Syria-Lebanon-Hezbollah form an alliance and devestate Israel as Iran marches west through northern Iraq and partners with Turkey. Then Europe gets involved and Turkey invades Cyprus, then the EU attacks Turkey as Greece collapses which allows the Iranian alliance to invade southeast Europe. Then the alliance spread through northern africa as their governments collapse due to coup's and they form 1 alliance and invade Southern Europe. They are stopped by France up at Lyon as Iran invades southern Germany. The Iranian alliance is destroyed and so is southern Europe.

So it could be the best case scenario, worst case scenario, or somewhere in between.

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And that unfortunatley is where you are mistaken. The arms black market runs all through that area of Africa and the Muslim groups all throughout the area has had an influx of handheld AA missles as well as some of the older static AA tech which Libya and Sudan has convientley "misplaced". (Will try and find the article on the loss of weaponry from these two states, when I get home from doc's office) Just because the civilians are dirt poor doesn't mean the armed radicals are. The funds from all of the pirate seizures go directly into these groups regardless as some on this site seem to believe. These are not poor unemployed farmers just trying to feed thier families. While the fodder that is used as front line forces may be, the leadership and bulk of these forces are for all intents and purposes lifelong Islamic warriors. You may want to keep an eye for "mysterious explosions" in southern Libya when the bombings in Somalia begin as well.

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I think you forgot, Iran would spread in two directions, the other is towards Pakistan..

An attack on Iran gives the Iranian gov the opportunity to be the liberators of the area, I am sure many will flock to their side if the West is deemed the agressor.

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True.

China might join Iran along with central asia(the -stan countries) and form an alliance. That would be scary wouldn't it? An Iranian alliance that stretches from Morrocco to North Korea.