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reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 06:38 AM by oneinthesame

reply to post by cjcord

43st means 43 stone weight. That's 602 pounds. 1 stone = 14 pounds.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 06:42 AM by Merriman Weir

Originally posted by ziggystar60

This man is probably what is known as a "feeder". Fat women is a sex fetish for them, and the bigger the woman is, the more turned on these men get. They will feed and fatten up their woman to make her more and more sexually attractive to them, and they don't care at all that her health is destroyed.

Whilst I agree with the general thrust of this, I think it's debatable that this actually a 'sexual' thing. The dynamic of these kinds of relationships tends to be power-based and not quite as clear cut one as it first appears. Whilst obviously an element of abuse (however, one in which both parties are complicit) and certainly the feeder has an element of control due to the fact that the feedee becomes helpless and reliant on the feeder. The actual outcome of this relationship becomes similar to a queen in a hive being attended to by a drone who literally has to do everything for them.

It's not as straightforward as the feeder having all the power at all as ultimately the hand over a large part of their own 'independence' for a weird role that tantamounts to servitude.

They're both messed-up people who need help, in my opinion. It's not a case of 'evil male pervert' and 'poor woman'.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 06:46 AM by Merriman Weir

Originally posted by cjcord
I am sure the rest of the article is interesting, but I cannot seem to get past 43st

I am not normally a total grammar nazi- but is no one else as bothered by this as I am??

Maybe I need coffee--but my poor brain will not skip past trying to say aloud "43st".

It's a good job you're not a "total grammar nazi" as abbreviating stones to st is perfectly acceptable usage!

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 06:46 AM by ziggystar60

Originally posted by Merriman Weir

They're both messed-up people who need help, in my opinion. It's not a case of 'evil male pervert' and 'poor woman'.

Yes, they are both messed up. But what this man is doing is slowly KILLING the woman. He is in fact killing her to satisfy his own sexual needs and fantasies. In my book that is certainly both evil and perverted.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 06:49 AM by geek101

reply to post by ziggystar60

But she is more than a willing participant here. She charges men to watch her eat! She knows damn well what she is doing. I agree with Merriman...this is not his fault alone. She's a mother, a woman with her own mind, you cannot blame this entirely on him. They are both as bad as each other.

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reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 06:49 AM by nik1halo

I totally agree that these kids should be taken into care for their own good and the mother given councelling of some kind. I mean, for Christ's sake, she weighs nearly 3 and a half times my weight and I'm male and a body builder!!!

Ironically, the accompanying advert at the side of the thread, when I first opened it was an advert for weight loss!

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reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 06:55 AM by ShadowAngel85

MY god, look at all those people here...
I don't think it's any of our business to judge the way somebody lives. If she is happy that way and it certainly looks, i don't think anyone has the right to say "She's sick", "She needs help"
People live in different ways and we all should accept it. I mean, i also don't go to vegetarians and say "You're sick, how can live such a miserable life?", just because i live in another way. I accept the way they life (sadly most vegetarians can't accept if people don't eat just vegetables and think they must convert everyone to vegetarians)
And i think the same thing happened here: People live "healthy" and see someone who lives different and, from their point of view, unhealthy, so they talk # because they can't accept it.

It's funny, i read a lot of threads here and most of the time the vibe is "live and let live

And really, who can tell that she is sick or that she is a bad mother? NOBODY here knows this woman, so nobody should judge her.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:00 AM by cjcord

reply to post by geek101

No worries! as I said, it's not even 8 am yet for me, and I haven't made my coffee run- consider that fair warning^^.

Anyway I have gone to the link and read the entire article, as well as the myspace pages linked. And I feel ill.

I am a heavy person myself- in fact, I am having bariatric surgery very soon--so I get the "fat person mentality". Truly I do. And my husband loves me no matter what size I am, I know how lucky i am to have that---

but the fact remains that some self preservation should kick in here. I am "perfectly healthy" too but hello! I would like to stay that way! I have two children I would like to be able to raise fully, and see them grow, and be able to keep up with them and NOT have them be my caretakers---like I was for my obese diabetic mother. I know all too well how it is for a child to grow up with a parent who was always sick ON PURPOSE ( and eating sugar in binge cycles when you are diabetic is ON PURPOSE), and having to be at their beck and call because they can't get up!

I am sorry, this makes me rage. I'm happy she feels so good about herself- and I am sure her child feels just fine right NOW, but it won't last. Her daughter is who I feel sympathetic towards. And her husband should be locked up for abuse.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:01 AM by geek101

reply to post by ShadowAngel85

You're absolutely right in one sense....what she does with her life is her own business. If she was childless, i couldn't give a toss what she does...she wants to eat herself to death...good for her, one less idiot on this earth.

But she has a child, a child that will end up looking after her parent cos she will be too fat to do anything herself. A child that will grow up with a weird view of ambitions and aspirations and ultimately, a child that will see her mother die because she wanted to be fat.

Imagine you are that child. You know that your mother knew that becoming that overweight would eventually kill her...and she went ahead and did it anyway...why?...to win a record. Kudos to her. She doesn't deserve a child.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:05 AM by nik1halo

reply to post by ShadowAngel85

I would totally agree, if it weren't for the fact that this woman has kids, who run the risk of psychological damage in as much as she is giving them a very bad view of what a healthy lifestyle is. Also, if this woman does get to the point where she cannot look after herself and her "feeder" partner leaves/dies, who's gonna be stuck looking after her? You got it, the kids.

I personally believe that if she wants to kill herself in this way, fine, but don't subject the kids to the trauma of watching her do it.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:05 AM by Merriman Weir

Originally posted by ziggystar60

Originally posted by Merriman Weir

They're both messed-up people who need help, in my opinion. It's not a case of 'evil male pervert' and 'poor woman'.

Yes, they are both messed up. But what this man is doing is slowly KILLING the woman. He is in fact killing her to satisfy his own sexual needs and fantasies. In my book that is certainly both evil and perverted.

But again, I'm not sure it's a straight forward as you're making it. Firstly, the woman is as complicit in this as the man: it's not as if she's tied-up in a cellar and being force fed. Secondly, like rape, I doubt it's a sexual thing and more to do with power dynamics and, in this case, a particularly complex one.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:06 AM by ziggystar60

reply to post by geek101

Ok, let us say that this woman is as bad as the "feeder". She is slowly comitting suicide by eating herself to death, by her own free will, and her partner has nothing to do with it.

Then tell me this; If you had a partner you really loved, and this person was comitting suicide right in front of your eyes, what would you do? Would you encourage your partner, even help him/her to die? Even get aroused by the prosess?

Or would you do what any normal human being would do, put a stop to it and save your partner's life?

No. This man is sick and evil. Pure and simple.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:06 AM by geek101

reply to post by cjcord

Truly, thank you for that post....i am sorry for what you had to put up with growing up, that couldn't have been easy. And it proves my point about this woman. She's not doing this because she has a problem per se, she is doing it (killing herself), to gain a place in the Guinness Book of World Records.

You're right, at some point, self-preservation SHOULD kick in, at least for the sake of your children. She seems to be ignoring that very basic instinct to gain "fame".

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:11 AM by geek101

reply to post by ziggystar60

My problem with your opinion is that you admit that this woman is playing her part too, but then always end on...the man is evil and sick.

I said...both are as bad as each other. That means exactly what it says. He has got himself a sexual fantasy which he wants to preserve at any cost...and she has got the "fame" so far of being the fattest woman to give birth...and now wants to go the whole hog of being the fattest woman alive.

They are both as bad as each other. Neither are thinking of the child.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:26 AM by ShadowAngel85

Originally posted by geek101
I said...both are as bad as each other. That means exactly what it says. He has got himself a sexual fantasy which he wants to preserve at any cost...and she has got the "fame" so far of being the fattest woman to give birth...and now wants to go the whole hog of being the fattest woman alive.

In the linked article is stated, that this woman likes the way and choses that way to live. She says that she felt better with more weight. So i wouldn't say she is forced that way or does it for the money.

And judging from the pics in the article her child is not overweight and it doesn't look like her parents feed her to death. So who knows, maybe she told her children that they shouldn't live the same way as her mother or whatever. Like i said, nobody knows her, nobody knows what she do to her children and certainly nobody knows how the children live. That girl doesn't look to unhappy in the pictures, so...

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:29 AM by geek101

reply to post by ShadowAngel85

I'm sure right now the child is fine. Until she ends up having to take care of her mother and ends up watching her mother die from eating so much on purpose.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:39 AM by recycled

So what exactly is the issue here? We have a woman with an addiction, who has a husband who feeds her addiction, and between them they have a child. Said addiction is damaging to the woman's health, said husband is not taking this into consideration, and said child will eventually suffer by not having her mother in her life.

I think this is what I am getting from the posts on this thread. I have a few questions.

Although this woman's addiction has the propensity to render her body void of life, it would appear by the opinions of some that her mind has already reached this plane of existence, as well as her father's.

How is this particular "sickness" if you will prove them to be parents that are any less loving of their child than a parent living with any other addiction? Say an addiction to sports, Hollywood, politics, etc.

Couldn't it be argued that any lifestyle lived by a parent that does not put their children first, has the potential to render those children useless to society? Render them just as selfish as their predecessors? Put them in a position to continue the cycle?

Her physical health may indeed be at risk in this situation, but her mental health does not deviate from the "norm" by any standards in my opinion.
Our society is laden with people who put their wants and needs in front of their children, regardless of the mental repercussions the children may face.

It may be different in London, but sadly I don't see it that way here in the states.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:44 AM by cjcord

reply to post by ShadowAngel85

I think you, and many others, may not quite understand that this is a psychological issue.

I am quite certain that this woman enjoys the attention she is getting. Hell, getting paid to eat sounds like a dream job--if it weren't all a symptom of an illness. Which those who have seen this firsthand know that it is.

What you may have missed is her myspace page, linked to on page 1. If you read her blogs on that page, you would find "her story", which includes descriptions of sexual abuse at a young age, food deprivation, food "sneaking", bouts with diet pills, and a generally textbook account of someone in desperate need of clinical help.

She HAS to come off as super confident and happy! If not, she would have killed herself by now. If not food, it would have been drugs, or alcohol, or sex. It is an addiction just as real as a drug or alcohol one. Any rationalizations and justifications of it after the fact are easily seen through by anyone who has gone through it, or has seen a loved one go through it.

It's incredibly sad. The daughter (and her son, who is older), have already had their world views changed by living in this environment.

I was a healthy weight when young also- then at 9 I began learning how to hide food and walk to the convenient corner store, and that is when my weight went out of control.

And do you really believe that she can tell her kids "do as I say, not as I do", and that will work?? You must not have children, because that is not how they work! They absorb behaviors, and it changes them psychologically.

Even if these children do not have a future weight issue, they will absolutely have self esteem issues, warped views of healthy relationships, and most likely addictions of their own.

if the mother does not care enough for her children, and HERSELF, to want to be around in 20 years- then so be it, but those kids need to be removed from that environment before these destructive behaviors are indelibly imprinted on their psyches.

Go ahead and rant about how unfair some of us posters are being, but until you have firsthand experience with something like this, you cannot understand.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:50 AM by Erasurehead

reply to post by ziggystar60

Totally agree with you. Her her long-term partner Philippe is a evil person sucking the life out of this woman for his own perverted fetish. He does not care about her at all and only views her as an object to feed and make as fat as possible. He does this to get off and for nothing else.
When she eventually dies from her obesity he will move on to another weak soul to consume. He man is sick and twisted.

This woman is weak she does not do this to herself because she wants to. She is doing it because she believes that is the only way to get love from Phillippe. Lookup the feeder/feedee fetish to see what a manipulative worm this guy is.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 07:56 AM by xxcalbier

well most of the stuff posted here is hard to track down and verfi
and i would post the link but its a fat porn site.
so this woman is a member of a exclus extra fat porn site looks like these girls have to weigh over 500 pounds to qulifi to be on this site.
of corse i accutly met a man who payed to watch woman eat so its alest part
true
seams mr right is made up as her myspace says shes single

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